# Trump is dying **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 27, 2025, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520 "2025-08-27T07:09:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 123
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2442 "2026-04-24T22:15:36Z")
Oz always looks like he’s figuring out how to sneak in there and check for a pulse at those Oval Office pressers ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2443 "2026-04-25T01:47:18Z")
Trump running low on adversity means the end is near. [A judge has ruled the parties are not “sufficiently adverse to each other”](https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-tax-report/judge-questions-jurisdiction-in-trumps-lawsuit-against-irs) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2444 "2026-04-25T02:44:36Z")
Can you explain what this means? The article is paywalled. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2445 "2026-04-25T02:48:26Z")
In a nutshell, Trump can’t claim to be an adversary in any suit against the IRS because he controls the IRS. Since we have an adversarial system, the court can’t just cement a deal between Trump and the IRS because there’s no adversry there. Trump is simply making a deal with Trump and wants the court to give it’s seal of approval. This stems, in part, from Trump’s executive order where he takes direct control of institutions operating under the Department of the Treasury. The IRS, DOJ, and other institutions used to have some autonomy, but Trump took it. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2446 "2026-04-25T03:41:03Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > In a nutshell Thanks for explaining it to me. I just thought it was funny that Trump could be lacking in adversity. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2447 "2026-04-25T07:25:17Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I wonder if somebody is assigned to stand behind him and grab him by the back of his shirt collar if it looks like he’s going to go totally face forward onto the table. Between the corset and the bullet-proof suit jacket he is packed in so tight I doubt he could fully bend that far. He might just slip down inside the suit though. . . ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2448 "2026-04-25T12:53:53Z")
Yeah, what the court is saying is “explain how this isn’t you the person in effect suing yourself the official.” The case is not dismissed but the court needs to hear how is this a real dispute and not just an excuse to order his own subordinates to pay him off. Which should have been explained to begin with when suing, but of course they didn’t to the court’s satisfaction. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2449 "2026-04-25T14:38:38Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > …just an excuse to order his own subordinates to pay him off. Well, given that it’s trump, _of course_ it’s going to be this. Duh. 🤷🏽‍♀️ ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2450 "2026-04-25T18:36:36Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > I just thought it was funny that Trump could be lacking in adversity. Think of it this way… Trump gets no adversity from cronies, sycophants, and cultists who worship him. And nobody worships Trump more than Trump himself. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2451 "2026-04-26T03:16:36Z")
False alarm. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2452 "2026-04-26T03:19:54Z")
Why can’t humanity have anything good happen? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2453 "2026-04-26T03:31:25Z")
When the headlines said “Trump is safe!” I said in a deadpan monotone, “I’m so relieved.” I was happy when he survived the first assassination attempt because I didn’t want him to be a martyr and I wanted him to live long enough to face justice. Now I don’t care. The high road is a road to nowhere. If someone takes him out I no longer see a downside. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2454 "2026-04-26T03:33:52Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Now I don’t care. The high road is a road to nowhere. If someone takes him out I no longer see a downside. I get how you feel. Though there is one potential downside, I think. His supporters would use a successful assassination as a basis to start shooting their perceived enemies in the streets. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2455 "2026-04-26T03:39:12Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > His supporters would use a successful assassination as a basis to start shooting their perceived enemies in the streets. I think Minneapolis shows that we’re already there. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2456 "2026-04-26T03:40:17Z")
I get your point, but this is his supporters being “restrained”. If he’s killed, I would expect it to get much, much worse. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2457 "2026-04-26T04:51:25Z")
Me, too. I’d be delighted if Trump dropped dead from a stroke, preferably live, on TV, with lots of his supporters surrounding him. But i am terrified of what might come off an assassination, and i really don’t want to find out. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2458 "2026-04-26T07:35:59Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I’d be delighted if Trump dropped dead from a stroke As I said in another thread, he had to do some jogging today and that had to put him _closer_ to a stroke at least. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2459 "2026-04-26T12:39:32Z")
The heartbreaking part is the thought of all those cockroaches gathered together in the same place. A meteor, or a giant Monty Python foot, why not? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2460 "2026-04-26T14:12:13Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > A meteor, or a giant Monty Python foot, why not? Or even a 16-tonne weight. ---
**Author:** ![Ancient\_Nerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed655f/32.png) [@Ancient\_Nerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ancient_Nerd)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2461 "2026-04-26T18:19:19Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > A meteor, or a giant Monty Python foot, why not? Remember Bambi meets Godzilla? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520.md?page=122) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520.md?page=124)