# Trump is dying **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 27, 2025, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520 "2025-08-27T07:09:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 128
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2542 "2026-05-04T16:06:55Z")
Agreed. The people most affected by high fuel prices are the people _least_ inclined to EVs: the exurban pickup truck drivers. The criminal in chief’s tariffs and attacks on EV subsidies and incessant anti-EV blather and all the rest are cratering US EV sales, not enhancing them. We in this country do not live in logical times. Do not use logic to make predictions; the opposite outcome occurs much more often. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2543 "2026-05-04T18:03:58Z")
Oh, he’s not helping the domestic growth of EVs, quite the contrary. But i think he probably _is_ helping the international growth of EVs. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2544 "2026-05-04T18:06:13Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > But i think he probably _is_ helping the international growth of EVs. And Americans will start buying them. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2545 "2026-05-04T18:08:35Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Agreed. The people most affected by high fuel prices are the people _least_ inclined to EVs: the exurban pickup truck drivers Yeah sidetrack to the impending mortality of Trump. But this is what bugs me about Musk and his fucking cyber truck. An electric truck being widely adopted by exurban American truck owners would actually be a really good thing that could significantly decrease American green house gas emissions (that a electric compact car will never do no matter how good it is). But the cyber truck is so fucking shite that it will never be that. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2546 "2026-05-04T18:27:40Z")
**We** will write the history books on the complete and colosal failure of Trump and his administration. I hope they remain alive so they can read it. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2547 "2026-05-04T19:21:50Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > And Americans will start buying them. The 100% tariff on them would need to be removed first and American automakers are too scared of the competition from inexpensive Chinese EVs that are just plain cooler than any of the expensive ones currently on the market: [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/some-u-s-car-buyers-envy-what-they-cannot-have-affordable-chinese-evs-9.7139717](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/some-u-s-car-buyers-envy-what-they-cannot-have-affordable-chinese-evs-9.7139717) ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2548 "2026-05-04T19:46:35Z")
Good point. It’s just another way that a person that has had 6 bankruptcies and not the first clue about economics is screwing over the American people. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2549 "2026-05-04T20:52:59Z")
Six times businesses in which he was a major owner filed for chapter 11, which may have been a strategic move rather than a sign of failure, at least in some cases. I’m not defending him or trying to make him smell better. But that’s what happened. And I would say it is not his lack of knowledge or understanding that is most damaging, it is his intentions and lack of moral code. He probably does not know what he is doing, but he cares even less, as long as it improves his personal bottom line. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2550 "2026-05-04T21:18:47Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > And I would say it is not his lack of knowledge or understanding that is most damaging, it is his intentions and lack of moral code. He probably does not know what he is doing, but he cares even less, as long as it improves his personal bottom line. But maybe he made a buck. No attack on you @Roderick_Femm , but the man is dispicable as we all know. What’s gonna be the next distraction from the Epstein files? I know what I fear. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2551 "2026-05-04T22:13:53Z")
> [@solost](#): > > This treatment is now contraindicated, since despite its effectiveness as an emetic, it also spikes blood pressure and cortisol levels. That makes sense; the entire patient-health picture must obviously be considered, when Trump-Photo-Viewing treatment is contemplated. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2552 "2026-05-04T22:24:59Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Six times businesses in which he was a major owner filed for chapter 11, which may have been a strategic move rather than a sign of failure, at least in some cases. Here’s an example. [PDF of an article from the NYT on Congress.gov - “How Donald Trump Bankrupted His Atlantic City Casinos, but Still Earned Millions”](https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/111078/documents/HMKP-116-JU00-20200929-SD002.pdf) > But even as his companies did poorly, Mr. Trump did well. He put up little of his own money, shifted personal debts to the casinos and collected millions of dollars in salary, bonuses and other payments. The burden of his failures fell on investors and others who had bet on his business acumen. Imagine you have a taxi driver, who routinely takes his passengers to a remote location to rob and murder them, and accumulates a lot of money before getting caught (and somehow avoids serving any time for it and keeps the money he has hidden away). And your takeaway is that he is a terrible taxi driver. Trump isn’t a terrible business owner. He’s much more than that, and much worse than that. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2553 "2026-05-04T22:34:53Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Imagine you have a taxi driver, who routinely takes his passengers to a remote location to rob and murder them, Uber ? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2554 "2026-05-05T12:06:38Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Imagine you have a taxi driver, who routinely takes his passengers to a remote location to rob and murder them, and accumulates a lot of money before getting caught (and somehow avoids serving any time for it and keeps the money he has hidden away). And your takeaway is that he is a terrible taxi driver. But you could tell people you were the greatest taxi driver ever. You might have had a few unhappy customers, who doesn’t, but you made more money than every other cabbie out there. Some even called you the best cabbie ever. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2555 "2026-05-05T12:50:25Z")
Besides, nobody who had a bad experience ever complains about it, right? You just don’t hear complaints about a cabbie so great. ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2556 "2026-05-05T12:54:34Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Uber ? I’ve used Ubera fair number of times, and I’ve only been driven to a remote location and been robbed and murdered like once or twice. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2557 "2026-05-05T13:08:33Z")
> [@fachverwirrt](#): > > I’ve used Ubera fair number of times, and I’ve only been driven to a remote location and been robbed and murdered like once or twice. **Uber passenger:** Where are you taking me? This is a pretty remote, scary location. **Uber driver:** You think you’re scared? I have to drive back out of here all alone! ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2558 "2026-05-05T13:36:45Z")
> [@fachverwirrt](#): > > I’ve only been driven to a remote location and been robbed and murdered like once or twice. [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/FnNDl5maYAA5QYj.jpg) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/FnNDl5maYAA5QYj.jpg) Reminds me of a first date story someone told me. The guy picked her up and took her to a restaurant. When they got there, she mentioned that maybe in the future don’t take a first date to a restaurant that requires you to drive to a part of town most people would never have any business being in, between some old warehouses, at night, in dim lighting. If you’re familiar with the place, it’s fine, but that first time you go, it does feel like you took a wrong turn somewhere. Here’s the road heading to it, see that green dumpster with a car behind it? Drive all the way down there, turn behind the second warehouse on the left and you’re there! [![](https://i.imgur.com/ffO2vcf.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/ffO2vcf.jpeg) (For anyone in my area, this is Barnacle Buds). ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2559 "2026-05-05T13:58:38Z")
Oh, yeah - that looks like a murder scene. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2560 "2026-05-05T14:33:23Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > (For anyone in my area, this is Barnacle Buds). > [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Oh, yeah - that looks like a murder scene. I know I’ve seen murder scenes in L&O and FBI in places just like that. No cameras, no witnesses. It took me a bit to even find the sign to the restaurant, and I’m still not sure where it is! ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2561 "2026-05-05T14:42:25Z")
Here’s the live map if you want to ‘drive’ it yourself. Just ahead, you can see a warehouse with the lower part painted green, that’s the first of those two warehouses. Head in that direction and the restaurant is just on the other side of that second one. You’ll see the parking, but google maps doesn’t have a good shot of the restaurant itself. It’s a neat little place and one of the handful of restaurants in the city with boat parking as well. https://www.google.com/maps/embed?pb=!4v1777991760236!6m8!1m7!1szZAPOVneBjynb9zUMCSadg!2m2!1d43.00745071240734!2d-87.90590315880839!3f9.893510754434828!4f-15.294128458142723!5f0.7820865974627469 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520.md?page=127) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520.md?page=129)