# Trump is dying **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 27, 2025, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520 "2025-08-27T07:09:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 154
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3063 "2026-06-20T02:28:44Z")
> [@On another topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1031045/2): > > That would explain his desecretion of both the Pope and Christ. You missed the Messiah once, I would hope you wouldn’t again. Bless your heart. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3064 "2026-06-20T02:34:33Z")
> [@On another topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1031045/2): > > Maybe Trump really is a Jew after all! Do you really want to go in this direction? Think about it. 🧐 ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3065 "2026-06-20T02:38:41Z")
With everything that followed that sentence they already have. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3066 "2026-06-20T02:55:40Z")
Someone shows up out of nowhere in a Pit thread to preach Jesus then disparage Jews, and you’re engaging with them? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3067 "2026-06-20T04:52:18Z")
> [@On another topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1031045/2): > > Maybe Trump really is a Jew after all! That would explain his desecretion of both the Pope and Christ. You missed the Messiah once, I would hope you wouldn’t again. [Moderating] This is a formal warning for anti-Semitic hate speech. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3069 "2026-06-20T05:37:04Z")
> [@On another topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1031045/3): > > The moment you killed Christ And here we have the root of all anti-semitism, so rarely seen in the wild. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3071 "2026-06-20T05:40:48Z")
Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3072 "2026-06-20T05:59:21Z")
He seems nice. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3073 "2026-06-20T06:04:14Z")
Why do I smell corn? ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3074 "2026-06-20T06:09:00Z")
Friendly. Wow. Bye, now. ---
**Author:** ![Reeses\_Monkey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reeses_monkey/32/2885_2.png) [@Reeses\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeses_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3075 "2026-06-20T13:32:33Z")
I never understood why anyone is mad at the Jewish people for killing Christ. 1. They didn’t do it, the Romans did 2. He came here to die. That was the entire point. No sacrifice, no redemption. Toppling over from old age wasn’t going to cut it. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3076 "2026-06-20T13:39:01Z")
It’s too late for denial. > [@](#): > > “Alright, it’s true! We killed him. What a bad scene, > It was us, my family did it, we found a note “I > Killed Jesus” in the basement, signed Uncle Morty.” - Lenny Bruce ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3077 "2026-06-20T16:09:59Z")
I know this is the Pit, but didn’t we already have another thread spin off of this one to keep it from devolving into a discussion that has nothing to do with Trump or his dying? And you guys are still continuing that discussion? All because of a now-banned troll? How fucking dumb are you people?! ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3078 "2026-06-20T18:27:15Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Anyone can speak words, it’s by a man’s actions we know his true character. God can read souls, we can’t. [_Acta non verba_](https://www.spurgeon.org/blog/acta-non-verba) – Deeds, not words (complying with board rules). ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3079 "2026-06-20T18:55:32Z")
> [@Reeses\_Monkey](#): > > I never understood why anyone is mad at the Jewish people for killing Christ. > > 1. They didn’t do it, the Romans did According to the biblical account, the Roman governor, Pontius Pilate, offered to commute the death sentence of one prisoner and left it to the assembled crowd to decide if it would be Jesus or a criminal named Barabbas. The crowd of Jews chose Barabbas, then demanded that Jesus be crucified. That’s why some people blame the Jews. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3080 "2026-06-20T19:08:20Z")
The reason Christians don’t blame the Romans is that they ARE the Romans. I mean, after the Roman Empire converted to Christianity, they were hardly going to blame _themselves_ for killing Christ, right? ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3081 "2026-06-20T19:34:58Z")
It depends on which book you read. Some gospels are more antisemitic than others and do more or less to shift the blame off the Romans and to the Jews. It’s not a coherent story. It’s mostly just some shit people made up to suit their needs. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3082 "2026-06-20T19:36:45Z")
And even before that, they were trying to get along with the Romans. They couldn’t very well blame the power they were sucking up to. They had to blame someone else. I took a college course on the history of the early Christians, and one thing i was surprised to learn is that a lot of the “blood libel” that has been aimed at Jews was originally aimed at Christians, by the Romans. “This is my body you are eating and my blood that you are drinking” is actually pretty easy to misinterpret. A lot of contemporary non-Christians thought the early Christians were literally eating human flesh and drinking human blood. And they told bizarre stories about how the Christians obtained those grisly meals. They stole Roman babies and encased them in a ball of dough and then threw the dough around their church until the baby died, and then cooked and ate it. Stuff like that. (They also thought the early Christians engaged in incest because they called each other “brother” and “sister”.) When the Christians came to power, they took all those stories told about them and rewrote them to be about the Jews. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3083 "2026-06-20T19:54:57Z")
🤦🏽‍♀️ Holy crap, people! Somebody wake me when this thread gets back on topic. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3084 "2026-06-20T19:57:14Z")
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