# Trump is dying

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 27, 2025, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520 "2025-08-27T07:09:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2026, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3365 "2026-07-25T04:35:49Z")

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Fun fact: Jet Airliner is a cover!

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Cjr5U7g6aiA/hqdefault.jpg "Paul Pena - Jet Airliner (The Original)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjr5U7g6aiA)

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2026, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3366 "2026-07-25T04:39:27Z")

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Never heard of it. AFIAK, Steve Miller only had that one hit (_The Joker_), plus _Fly Like An Eagle_.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2026, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3367 "2026-07-25T04:46:27Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Steve Miller only had that one hit (_The Joker_), plus _Fly Like An Eagle_.

And Space Cowboy, Abracadabra, Take the Money and Run, Rockin’ Me, Jungle Love, Swingtown…

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2026, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3368 "2026-07-25T04:54:49Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> And Space Cowboy, Abracadabra, Take the Money and Run, Rockin’ Me, Jungle Love, Swingtown…

Yeah; he had nine top 40 hits (five in the top 10), and was a pretty big star there for a time in the 1970s.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2026, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3369 "2026-07-25T05:02:11Z")

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I was surprised to learn that in the four years they were active Creedence Clearwater Revival had four songs that charted to No. 2 on the US charts… and none at No. 1

The music industry is weird.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2026, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3370 "2026-07-25T05:45:18Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> …was a pretty big star there…

Literally learned guitar from Les Paul. Yes, **that** Les Paul.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2026, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3371 "2026-07-25T05:47:10Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Yes, **that** Les Paul.

Indeed. Miller’s father and Les were good friends, and Les was Steve’s godfather.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2026, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3372 "2026-07-25T06:18:16Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> he had nine top 40 hits (five in the top 10), and was a pretty big star there for a time in the 1970s.

I saw him on a triple bill with Journey and Tower Of Power a decade or so ago. He played a little over an hour and there were maybe two or three songs I hadn’t heard on classic rock radio.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2026, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3373 "2026-07-25T10:11:54Z")

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Always disappointing to wake up and see 11 new posts in this thread… and they’re about music!

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2026, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3374 "2026-07-25T10:23:00Z")

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_Someone_ needs to decide what gets played during his funeral. I suggest that the powers that oversee this happy event have a look over this list of suggestions:

> **[We Don’t Need This Fascist Groove Thang: 10 protest songs that stood up to...](https://www.thevinylfactory.com/features/10-protest-songs-resist-authoritarianism)**
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> Protest songs are only as confrontational as the events and individuals they oppose. In an age where Trump-style populism is infecting political discourse, Dorian Lynskey remembers ten songs that went further to challenge totalitarians and autocrats...

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2026, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3375 "2026-07-25T10:31:12Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Always disappointing to wake up and see 11 new posts in this thread… and they’re about music!

You’ll likely hear the fireworks before reaching the site..

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2026, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3376 "2026-07-25T10:38:31Z")

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Trump may not be literally dead, but it certainly sounds like he died onstage last night:

[https://edition.cnn.com/2026/07/25/media/trump-white-house-correspondents-dinner-speech-whcd](https://edition.cnn.com/2026/07/25/media/trump-white-house-correspondents-dinner-speech-whcd)

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2026, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3377 "2026-07-25T12:27:46Z")

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This line is kinda funny:

> “See those beautiful chandeliers? I can tell you everything about them,” he threatened.

These kinds of articles always remind me of something Seth Meyers said years ago, the president isn’t supposed to be in the news every single day.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2026, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3378 "2026-07-25T13:38:50Z")

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Although part of the reason Biden is often regarded as a do-nothing president was exactly how much he _wasn’t_ in the news every day. IOW, his presidency’s media presence reflected the old pre-trump norms. Not the new trumply precedent. And that was seen as inadequate. And not only by Faux-besotted MAGAts.

Whichever D follows trump probably needs to have a similarly large media profile. But filled with good things, not stupid or evil things.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2026, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3379 "2026-07-25T14:23:12Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Whichever D follows trump probably needs to have a similarly large media profile. But filled with good things, not stupid or evil things.

It’ll take half (or more) the next Administration to undo all the bad things this one has done. That should keep the next Pres in the spotlight.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2026, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3380 "2026-07-25T14:38:16Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> It’ll take half (or more) the next Administration to undo all the bad things this one has done.

Are you joking? It will take generations and trillions of dollars. I’m 70 and I don’t expect the country to to recover in my lifetime.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2026, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3381 "2026-07-25T14:59:36Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> Are you joking? It will take generations and trillions of dollars. I’m 70 and I don’t expect the country to to recover in my lifetime.

I’m 50 and I’m not sure I’ll see it recover in _my_ lifetime.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2026, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3382 "2026-07-25T15:22:44Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> IOW, his presidency’s media presence reflected the old pre-trump norms. Not the new trumply precedent. And that was seen as inadequate. And not only by Faux-besotted MAGAts.
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> Whichever D follows trump probably needs to have a similarly large media profile.

Another example of him doing persistent damage to the cultural and political structure of this society.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2026, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3383 "2026-07-25T15:40:07Z")

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I don’t think it will ever recover. I think we’ve probably lost our primacy in higher Ed for good, and also lost our place as de facto “leader of the Western world”. And i don’t expect we’ll ever get either of those back.

The top Chinese students will go to Chinese universities, and no one will ever really trust us, knowing that a single election can throw out every treaty.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2026, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3384 "2026-07-25T15:45:01Z")

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We can fix the physical damage he inflicted. But we will never repair the damage to the American experiment. Like the Elves going into the West, that ship has sailed. The whole concept of a constitutional republic is based on the honor system. The people must agree that all are equal under the law. When half the country believes the Constitution protects their rights only, and the law binds others only, the illusion of self government evaporates. In truth, it’s been gone since Jan 6, and we’ve been in the death throes of democracy since then.

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