# Trump is dying

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Tags:** trump
**Created:** [August 27, 2025, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520 "2025-08-27T07:09:39Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/341 "2025-09-02T19:26:18Z")

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Such a bold face lie. Good lord, there people who will believe that crap

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### Author: ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/342 "2025-09-02T19:31:32Z")

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> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> Gawd, I hate that smirk.

Always reminds me of Stan Laurel.

[![](https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwBCYEzOLsxtN1mb1k6hsRv3ns0cjP3CqzZCSlO8xGVNDwY9xHD4N0-6zZUyJl_8tp1c5Wnk-suuecUMs9xd19Ww) ](https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwBCYEzOLsxtN1mb1k6hsRv3ns0cjP3CqzZCSlO8xGVNDwY9xHD4N0-6zZUyJl_8tp1c5Wnk-suuecUMs9xd19Ww)

The difference is that Laurel was only **pretending** to be a stooge.

ETA: Also, Laurel is confirmed to be dead (since 1965),

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### Author: ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/343 "2025-09-02T19:32:40Z")

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I haven’t been following this thread much, but I checked in today hoping for some good news about Donnie’s health. IOW confirmation of the thread title.. 🙃

What was/is his big announcement? Don’t make me watch him, please. I’m old–my system can’t take it.

I looked at the live feed for about 15 seconds and saw “Colorado,” “mail-in ballots,” and “corrupt system” go by. What is he blathering about?

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### Author: ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/344 "2025-09-02T19:32:52Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> So the Space Force (is that really necessary?)

It’s something I’ve never quite understood. Space Command was needed, of course, but I’ve never quite understood the logic that it needed to be its own uniformed branch separate from the Air Force. I’m willing to believe that it made sense like splitting off the Army Air Force if someone could make the case but I’ve never seen anyone actually try.

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### Author: ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/345 "2025-09-02T19:33:36Z")

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Yep. “We’ll be making a big announcement in about two weeks.” I’m not sure about what.

Asked why Space Force is moving from Colorado to Alabama: “Colorado is corrupt, their mail-in voting, put in by a liberal state government, makes elections untrustworthy.” (Paraphrased.)

And Biden something-something.

And now he’s settled seven wars!

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### Author: ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/346 "2025-09-02T19:37:41Z")

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He’s going to beautify Washington DC! “Spic and span, crime-free.”

“For 150 years, the White House has needed a ballroom. And we’ve got great architects working on that.”

Is it too early in the day for a stiff drink?

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### Author: ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/347 "2025-09-02T19:40:58Z")

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OK… Trump is apparently upright and speaking.

He’s moving Space Force to Alabama and the town it lands in will henceforth be known as “Rocket City”.

This is being done because mail in voting and Democrats have made Colorado a corrupt hellhole.

He WILL be sending the National Guard to Chicago whether or not the governor of Illinois begs and pleads with him to send the National Guard.

DC is now utopia.

He’s going to put “toppings” on the streets and graffiti in DC to make it all spic n’ span

Word salad.

Did I miss anything or is that about the sum of that dog and pony show in front of the cameras?

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### Author: ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/348 "2025-09-02T19:41:42Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> What was/is his big announcement? Don’t make me watch him, please. I’m old–my system can’t take it.

It’s what was mentioned before:

> [@Spoons](#):
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> So the Space Force (is that really necessary?) is moving to Huntsville, Alabama.

That’s it.

[Reuters: Trump moves Space Command headquarters to Alabama from Colorado](https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/trump-set-move-space-command-headquarters-alabama-colorado-sources-say-2025-09-02/)

> “We love Alabama. I only won it by about 47 points. I don’t think that influenced my decision, though,” Trump told reporters and lawmakers gathered in the Oval Office.
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> The decision reverses a move made under former President Joe Biden’s administration, which had selected Colorado Springs as the permanent home for the military’s newest combatant command.
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> Defense officials have previously estimated that relocating the headquarters, which became fully operational in December 2023, could cost hundreds of millions of dollars and take three to four years to complete.

Good thing that we have DOGE to keep government efficient. Trump is saving us so much money!!!

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### Author: ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/349 "2025-09-02T19:43:16Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Did I miss anything or is that about the sum of that dog and pony show in front of the cameras?

No, you summed it up well. Better than I did, certainly.

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### Author: ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/350 "2025-09-02T19:59:28Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> He still believes that foreign countries pay them!

And also that it’s trillions of dollars.

> [Imports of goods increased $187.1 billion to $3,295.6 billion in 2024](https://www.bea.gov/news/2025/us-international-trade-goods-and-services-december-and-annual-2024).

Let’s say the imports are on track to be the same. In 6 months of Trump that means you imported probably about $1.7 trillion in goods. To make “trillions”, plural, from tariffs, you’d be paying an average of more than 100% on everything you buy.

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### Author: ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/351 "2025-09-02T20:07:37Z")

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Right now, Illinois governor Pritzker is holding a press conference. (I’m watching on CNN.)

He doesn’t want the National Guard, especially if Trump sends it. Chicago has hosted many big events (conventions, sports, and similar), and never needed any outside help.

Illinois has been informed that ICE will be moving in, but few details from ICE as to how.

“I refuse to play a reality game show with Donald Trump again.” He points out that he’s not going to beg Trump for something that Illinois doesn’t want.

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### Author: ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/352 "2025-09-02T20:25:01Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I looked at the live feed for about 15 seconds and saw “Colorado,” “mail-in ballots,” and “corrupt system” go by. What is he blathering about?

> **[Trump says he is moving Space Command HQ to Alabama because of Colorado's...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-moving-space-command-hq-alabama-colorado-mail-voting-system-rcna228647)**
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> The president is reversing a decision by the Biden administration to put Space Command's headquarters in Colorado Springs.

Probably also because nobody’s releasing Tina Peters from prison:

> **[President Trump to take ‘harsh measures’ if Tina Peters isn’t freed](https://www.kkco11news.com/2025/08/23/president-trump-take-harsh-measures-if-tina-peters-isnt-freed/)**
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> President Trump is calling for former Mesa County Clerk and Recorder Tina Peters to be released.

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### Author: ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/353 "2025-09-02T20:37:55Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> … We can pretty easily imagine a case where, for example, Dan Bongino became privy to some information, threatens to release it, and Trump offers to step down if Bongino would just sit on the info. …

The problem with this scenario is that since the Orange Peril is incapable of keeping his word, he assumes Dan Bongino — or anyone else — cannot be trusted to do so. And he’s probably right: “honor among thieves” is an oxymoron (in this case, with special emphasis on the last two syllables).

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### Author: ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/354 "2025-09-02T20:42:09Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> False alarm. Flag was lowered for the Minneapolis shootings, which sucked, and thus made me sad. So the whole thing ended up being a big letdown.

Never found the “right” thread to post this before now; it’s interesting and an FYI.

This just in: Yahoo News posts actual fake news.

The day after the Minneapolis shoot, Yahoo News reported that people were holding a vigil across the street from the church… and that a gunman drove by and shot four of them, killing one. I searched other outlets and I saw nothing. I kept the window up for days, hoping to list it in a thread about Minneapolis and to expose Yahoo News as one step away from comic book fiction, but no such thread materialized. They reported a shooting that did not happen. They are no longer any sort of semi-reliable news source.

And now, back to the Orange Ghoul-in-Chief.

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### Author: ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/355 "2025-09-02T20:42:25Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> Probably also because nobody’s releasing Tina Peters from prison:

Sorry Donny, criminals deserve to be punished. I know you managed to skate, but not everyone does.

From the article:

> But President Donald Trump is calling her “a brave and innocent Patriot who has been tortured by Crooked Colorado politicians.”

That’s a bunch of BS, but if you want to find someone who was **literally** tortured by corrupt US politicians, talk to your buddy Abrego Garcia.

> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> They are no longer any sort of semi-reliable news source.

They never were. They are a news _aggregator_. They grab others’ stories and republish it.

The only thing different now is that they grab stories from less-reliable news sources than they used to.

This is a big reason why:

[Exclusive: Yahoo buys The Factual to add news credibility ratings](https://www.axios.com/2022/09/06/yahoo-factual-credibility-ratings)

Basically, they’ve been using AI to pick content since 2021.

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### Author: ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/356 "2025-09-02T20:43:47Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> The problem with this scenario is that since the Orange Peril is incapable of keeping his word, he assumes Dan Bongino — or anyone else — cannot be trusted to do so

Honestly, at this point, _everyone_ should be planning to screw Trump with any leverage they have, or might get in the future. Get enough leverage to force him to quit, by promising not to release the information if he goes quietly, and then release it anyways, as soon as he’s safely out of power.

Even if this trashes your own reputation, it’s worth it to do as much as possible to prevent Trump from ever rising again.

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### Author: ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/357 "2025-09-02T20:44:48Z")

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Once again … for the folks all the way in the back:

Tina Peters:

[![](https://www.cpr.org/cdn-cgi/image/width=1920,quality=75,format=auto/https://wp-cpr.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2022/06/220628-PRIMARY-PETERS-2-HV-0001.jpg) ](https://www.cpr.org/cdn-cgi/image/width=1920,quality=75,format=auto/https://wp-cpr.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2022/06/220628-PRIMARY-PETERS-2-HV-0001.jpg)

Kilmar Abrego Garcia:

[![](https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/rockcms/2025-04/250404-Kilmar-Abrego-Garcia-mn-0925-54c684-35b971.jpg) ](https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/rockcms/2025-04/250404-Kilmar-Abrego-Garcia-mn-0925-54c684-35b971.jpg)

I’ll take your questions now.

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#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/358 "2025-09-02T20:47:02Z")

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Tina’s the one who has “MS-13” tattooed on her knuckles IIRC.

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### Author: ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/359 "2025-09-02T20:47:42Z")

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There’s absolutely no photographic evidence of that.

Her knuckles drag.

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#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/360 "2025-09-02T20:51:34Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> He’s moving Space Force to Alabama and the town it lands in will henceforth be known as “Rocket City”.

Huntsville, Alabama (where he wants to move Space Force HQ to) has been already called “Rocket City” since the 1950s, due to its continuing role as a hub for NASA and its predecessor agencies.

But, I have no doubt that the Orange Leader will claim that he coined the nickname.

> **[Huntsville/Madison County Convention & Visitors Bureau](https://www.huntsville.org/rocket-city/)**
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> The Official Huntsville/Madison County Convention & Visitor's Bureau Website

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