# Trump is dying

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 27, 2025, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520 "2025-08-27T07:09:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3825 "2026-10-01T00:04:36Z")

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Great little ditty! I especially liked the kazoo solo and hope to see the US Marine Marching Kazoo Band playing “Oh Happy Day” as his carcass is lowered into the firmament.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3826 "2026-10-01T01:00:39Z")

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> [@chappachula](#):
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> When Osama Bin Laden’s death was announced, the crowd at a baseball game did did just what you’ve described.

I’m personally fond of when John Cena announced it live on PPV right after winning the WWE Championship.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/6maL6gq6qME/maxresdefault.jpg "John Cena reveals news of Osama bin Laden at Extreme Rules 2011") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6maL6gq6qME)

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3827 "2026-10-01T17:31:49Z")

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It occurred to me that, for the Make America Not Suck Again movement, for Felon-ONE to kick it right now or in the next month or so would be problematic, because he is their biggest asset. His copious flow of nonsense gives more traction to his opposition than if it were suddenly turned off.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3828 "2026-10-01T17:35:27Z")

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Who likes shirts?

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**Author:** ![Ancient\_Nerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed655f/32.png) [@Ancient\_Nerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ancient_Nerd)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3829 "2026-10-01T20:12:56Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> the next month or so would be problematic

True. The last few months of his term could also be a problem. All the grief over losing him could give Vance a boost in his effort to be reelected. Some of that gave LBJ a boost in 1964.

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3830 "2026-10-01T20:25:36Z")

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I don’t know, perhaps it will be a similar situation as to when Kamala Harris stepped in for Biden and it didn’t go as smoothly as expected.

JD Vance automatically becomes POTUS if/when Trump dies but if that is (all gods great and small willing) soon, would the Republicans look at him as the candidate of choice in 2028? Or would they say that he’s responsible for all the things that will still be fucked up from Trump? And how much backstabbing will there be? Republicans are known to fall in line but for this guy?

As for the electorate, I don’t think Trump dying would translate into success for Republicans at the ballot box. At least, I don’t see how that would work. But I could potentially see it happening just out of “worst timeline” spite.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3831 "2026-10-01T20:43:56Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> Or would they say that he’s responsible for all the things that will still be fucked up from Trump?

He’ll make a useful scapegoat. Nobody likes him, he’s tied inexorably to the Trump administration, and he’ll have no government position after the end of Trump’s term so it’s not like anyone has to fear retribution. Harris was similarly blamed for everything that Biden did that people didn’t like.

I think Vance’s usefulness will solely be as the blame guy. I’m not going to shed a tear over that.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3832 "2026-10-01T21:50:43Z")

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> [@Ancient\_Nerd](#):
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> Some of that gave LBJ a boost in 1964.

Having lived through that election as a teen, I will say he probably didn’t need it, considering who his opponent was (Barry Goldwater, AKA “In your heart you know he’s a nutcase.”)

Nevertheless, I agree with the main point, that all the weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth among the 25% of Trump’s deep supporters might drown out some of the memories of what a dirty gasbag Trump is.

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**Author:** ![Ancient\_Nerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed655f/32.png) [@Ancient\_Nerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ancient_Nerd)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3833 "2026-10-01T22:00:12Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Having lived through that election as a teen, I will say he probably didn’t need it, considering who his opponent was (Barry Goldwater, AKA “In your heart you know he’s a nutcase.”)

It was a genuine landslide and would have been either way. Yes.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3834 "2026-10-01T22:23:50Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Having lived through that election as a teen,

I was in elementary school. The joke that went around the playground after the election was:

Q: How can you tell that LBJ is rich?  
A: He flushes Goldwater down the toilet.

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3835 "2026-10-01T22:32:02Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> (Barry Goldwater, AKA “In your heart you know he’s a nutcase.”)

As a nitpick you are mixing a slogan with its rebuttal.

Goldwater: "In your heart, you know he’s right”  
Johnson: “In your guts, you know he’s nuts”

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3836 "2026-10-02T01:58:01Z")

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I don’t remember hearing that version, but there were a lot of them around. It is snappier than mine.

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**Author:** ![Ancient\_Nerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed655f/32.png) [@Ancient\_Nerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ancient_Nerd)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3837 "2026-10-02T02:38:48Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> I don’t remember hearing that version, but there were a lot of them around.

The one I remember:

“In your heart you know he’s right”

“Yes, extreme right”

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3838 "2026-10-02T03:02:03Z")

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How quaint that Goldwater was viewed by many Democrats as a dangerous loon back in '64.

These days he’d be condemned by most Republicans as a RINO dangerous to the MAGA cause.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3839 "2026-10-02T03:24:03Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> These days he’d be condemned by most Republicans as a RINO dangerous to the MAGA cause.

Even St. Ronnie would be called a RINO now.

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**Author:** ![Ancient\_Nerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed655f/32.png) [@Ancient\_Nerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ancient_Nerd)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3840 "2026-10-02T04:42:15Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Even St. Ronnie would be called a RINO now.

If Goldwater was a RINO, Reagan would be the evil empire.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3841 "2026-10-02T04:47:53Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Even St. Ronnie would be called a RINO now.

He allowed in immigrants from cuba

Raised taxes to keep social security solvent

Reduced the amount of nuclear weapons the US had

I’m not reading this whole thread, but trump really is evidence that lifestyle isn’t everything. He has one of the worst lifestyles possible and is still walking around at 80. Everyone keeps teasing me with hopes that his kidneys and heart are failing, but I’ll believe it when hes dead.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3842 "2026-10-02T05:29:44Z")

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> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> Goldwater: "In your heart, you know he’s right”  
> Johnson: “In your guts, you know he’s nuts”

The version I recall hearing. Much later, of course, but still:

Goldwater: “In your heart, you know he’s right.”  
Johnson: “In your heart, you know he _might_.”

Referring to using an atomic bomb in war, of course.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3843 "2026-10-02T12:57:50Z")

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Kids in the playground at school would chant “Silver water’s OK, but gold water- yuck!”

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/3844 "2026-10-02T13:02:55Z")

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There are several examples of [“Goldwasser”](https://www.totalwine.com/spirits/liqueurscordialsschnapps/herbal-spice/cinnamon/der-lachs-danziger-goldwasser/p/8469050?srsltid=AU7gw4UCE-6h8licOYfVjQCaKRDzvi8uuKLrIIxXRStqdZ6KPxJcetg7) on the market - liqueurs that contain floating gold flakes, which supposedly make them look ritzy.

One of them has a flavor described as sweet and syrupy with hot cinnamon, which sounds particularly nauseating.

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