# Trump is dying **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 27, 2025, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520 "2025-08-27T07:09:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/662 "2025-10-15T16:26:02Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > The structural design of the Life Force MedBed sets it apart from conventional medical devices. Encased in medical-grade fire-resistant PVC plastic, the MedBed features a spacious, comfortable interior with customizable lighting, an internal control panel, and a sliding door for easy access. Yes, but can it be fired out of the same diameter tubes as the Mk-48 torpedo without loss of warhead payload…? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/663 "2025-10-15T19:19:08Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > without loss of warhead payload…? Oh, I think we can sacrifice the payload… ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/664 "2025-10-15T19:55:05Z")
Asking for a friend? Need answer quickly? ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/665 "2025-10-15T21:09:26Z")
\< Answering quietly for every single member of The Navy who can’t ask your question out loud. \> " From your mouth to Groton’s ear…" ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/666 "2025-10-16T04:25:49Z")
> [@bobsmom101](#): > > perhaps it would be amusing to speculate what DEATH will say to the CFSG when he finally nabs him _Melvin!_ ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/667 "2025-10-16T06:39:56Z")
“Back of the bus.” ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/668 "2025-10-16T13:47:58Z")
Lol … ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/669 "2025-10-16T17:27:01Z")
The biggest disappointment of not believing in an afterlife is that you know the true believers will never get to know how wrong they were. No “ha ha you thought you were going to heaven?” “You though Christianity was right?” “Here’s your accordion”. Nope, just…nothing. No comeuppance, no realization, no justice, no karmic retribution. The good and the wicked end the same way. Nothingness. somehow that just doesn’t seem _fair_. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/670 "2025-10-16T17:29:44Z")
Life is not fair, and neither is death it seems. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/671 "2025-10-16T17:33:44Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > somehow that just doesn’t seem _fair_. If you check your atheism starter kit, it comes with an infinite supply of cosmic injustice. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/672 "2025-10-16T17:37:41Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > If you check your atheism starter kit, it comes with an infinite supply of cosmic injustice. I thought that was just the packing paper, I didn’t look at it. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/673 "2025-10-16T19:41:13Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > If you check your atheism starter kit, it comes with an infinite supply of cosmic injustice. “Justice” is an idea invented by human beings based on wishful thinking, certainly not on reality. _Justice_ has nothing to do with the way the world/universe/cosmos/reality operate. Just look at Nature. If you seek justice in any but the most _limited, temporal, specific instances,_ you are a naive child doomed to walk a path of frustration and defeat. There are people of all faiths and no faith who choose this path, and I say God bless 'em. I’m too cynical – and realistic – to go this way. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/674 "2025-10-16T20:01:34Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > If you check your atheism starter kit, it comes with an infinite supply of cosmic injustice. Just to let you know, this elicited a true belly laugh out of me this morning. It was sorely needed. Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/675 "2025-10-16T20:08:46Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > “Justice” is an idea invented by human beings based on wishful thinking, certainly not on reality. _Justice_ has nothing to do with the way the world/universe/cosmos/reality operate. Just look at Nature. It depends on how you look at it. If you are a baseball fan, and you watch an umpire who gets calls wrong constantly, you can say he’s shitty at his job but if he’s equally wrong with all of the players, then you can’t say he’s being unfair. Similarly, an uncaring universe that operates equally to all people isn’t an unjust one. Shit happens. If you define “justice” as the lack of “injustice”, then the universe is one that operates with justice. It’s only when humans with a free will get involved and intentionally fuck things up that justice fails, and it takes someone with free will wanting to fix things to undo it and restore justice. Or at least that’s how I look at it. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/676 "2025-10-16T20:26:45Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > > [@bobsmom101](#): > > > > perhaps it would be amusing to speculate what DEATH will say to the CFSG when he finally nabs him > > _Melvin!_ **HeRBeRT!** [![](https://y.yarn.co/81ef31ed-b48c-46ee-9fdc-af80837ab4c6_text.gif) ](https://y.yarn.co/81ef31ed-b48c-46ee-9fdc-af80837ab4c6_text.gif) ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/677 "2025-10-16T20:41:57Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Similarly, an uncaring universe that operates equally to all people isn’t an unjust one. _You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn’t it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe._ –Marcus Cole, _Babylon 5_ ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/678 "2025-10-16T20:42:42Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Marcus Cole, _Babylon 5_ I didn’t care for Space Robin Hood when I watched that (excellent) show, but that’s still a good quote. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/679 "2025-10-16T20:43:25Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > If you are a baseball fan, and you watch an umpire who gets calls wrong constantly, you can say he’s shitty at his job but if he’s equally wrong with all of the players, then you can’t say he’s being unfair. This is precisely what I mean when I say that “the most _limited, temporal, specific instances_” are the only circumstances where my worldview permits a discussion about justice. This is **the** (the **only** , IMHO) appropriate level at which to talk about justice. > [@Atamasama](#): > > Similarly, an uncaring universe that operates equally to all people isn’t an unjust one. I’m not claiming that the universe is “unjust,” nor do I attribute human qualities like “caring” or “uncaring” to the Milieu/Realm that we find ourselves in. I’m saying that claims of justice or injustice are meaningless outside of the small, specific situations like the one you cited at the ball game. IOW there is no global/universal justice OR injustice. We pretend there is because humans are “meaning-seeking” entities and we can’t help ourselves. We call the universe “caring” or “uncaring” to try to find some kind of redemptive meaning in events that seem cruel or otherwise confound us. The universe doesn’t have human attributes. > [@Atamasama](#): > > If you define “justice” as the lack of “injustice”, then the universe is one that operates with justice. I don’t define justice that way, and I don’t define it at all when referring to the Universe at Large; I reject the concept at that level. > [@Atamasama](#): > > It’s only when humans with a free will get involved and intentionally fuck things up that justice fails… If an earthquake happens and hundreds of people and animals are killed, where does that fit into your idea of failing justice because humans have screwed up? It’s only useful to talk about justice WRT human-sized events. The concept fails to be useful, and in fact becomes meaningless, when applied to the Universe. * * * Okay, 'nuff on that, I think. As interesting as it is, I suggest we curtail this discussion, because we’re getting away from the positive and uplifting topic of this thread. 🪦 Let’s focus on that. 🥳 ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/680 "2025-10-16T20:59:26Z")
It will be one of the happiest days of my life when I see this thread in the topic list with a mod having added “UPDATE- has died xx/xx/20xx” My guess is that his dementia is progressing much faster and that before 2027 he’ll be far enough gone that even the hardiest of MAGA will be calling him Senor Droolcup and he’ll be ousted via the 25th. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/681 "2025-10-16T21:00:52Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > It’s only useful to talk about justice WRT human-sized events. The concept fails to be useful, and in fact becomes meaningless, when applied to the Universe. That’s basically in line with my philosophy on the matter as well. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520.md?page=33) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520.md?page=35)