# Trump is dying

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 27, 2025, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520 "2025-08-27T07:09:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/682 "2025-10-16T21:10:24Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> nor do I attribute human qualities like “caring” or “uncaring” to the Milieu/Realm that we find ourselves in.

I do, but it’s just a manner of speaking (see motto next to user name)

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/683 "2025-10-17T04:38:44Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> The biggest disappointment of not believing in an afterlife is that you know the true believers will never get to know how wrong they were. No “ha ha you thought you were going to heaven?” “You though Christianity was right?” “Here’s your accordion”. Nope, just…nothing. No comeuppance, no realization, no justice, no karmic retribution. The good and the wicked end the same way. Nothingness.
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> somehow that just doesn’t seem _fair_.

In a way though, that is the cruellest fate Trump could… well, suffer is the wrong word here. Earn, I suppose? It has to be terrifying to Trump to think that once he is gone, he is just _gone_. Eventually people will stop talking about him and he’ll be reduced to a punchline in history textbooks. There will come a point where _nothing_ he ever did will matter. All his bluster, all his tough talk, all his insane plots. All just nothing in the end. I’d like to think that day will come sooner rather than later.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/684 "2025-10-17T04:58:14Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> There will come a point where _nothing_ he ever did will matter. All his bluster, all his tough talk, all his insane plots. All just nothing in the end.

My name is trump, king of kings; Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair! THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/685 "2025-10-17T05:05:44Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER

I fear that his biggest legacy will be people using this all caps phrase to make fun of him.

Years from now, even after Shelley, Shakespeare, Wilde, and other famous wits have been forgotten, the least presidential president will be remembered by his stupid words.

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/686 "2025-10-17T05:39:55Z")

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I wish someone could get it through his thick skull that he will be reviled and mocked in perpetuity. We may not get the pleasure of spitting on his hanging corpse, but generations to come will know him as the central figure in one of our country’s darkest times. When kids read about his ridiculous words and actions, they’ll think of him the same way we think about the likes of Nero. “Oh, he’s the asshole that set the country on fire and played golf while it burned.”

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/687 "2025-10-17T05:53:36Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#):
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> I wish someone could get it through his thick skull that he will be reviled and mocked in perpetuity.

Benedict Arnold, Nero, Donald Trump.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/688 "2025-10-17T06:23:13Z")

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If Trump dies during office what I’m going to hate is a state funeral and having to pretend we are sad.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/689 "2025-10-17T06:54:35Z")

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Naw.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/HgwOx31qsK4/maxresdefault.jpg "No One Mourns the Wicked | Wicked (HDR)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgwOx31qsK4&t=3s)

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/690 "2025-10-17T07:29:28Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> Years from now, even after Shelley, Shakespeare, Wilde, and other famous wits have been forgotten, the least presidential president will be remembered by his stupid words.

It’ll be right up there with, “I am not a crook.”

> [@Baker](#):
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> If Trump dies during office what I’m going to hate is a state funeral and having to pretend we are sad.

I’m hoping for something like [Mozart’s funeral](https://youtu.be/TUt4DfGnyJQ) as depicted in _Amadeus_.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/691 "2025-10-17T08:12:51Z")

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Except, rather than the beautiful music in that clip (Requiem Mass in D Minor)… they will play something more appropriate like Yakity Sax.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/692 "2025-10-17T08:32:32Z")

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[“Der Fuehrer’s Face”](https://youtu.be/lWF8iRCan7I)

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/693 "2025-10-17T15:05:06Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> Except, rather than the beautiful music in that clip (Requiem Mass in D Minor)… they will play something more appropriate like Yakity Sax.

So then the film of him being dumped in a pauper’s grave will have to be sped up accordingly. Works for me.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/694 "2025-10-17T15:14:25Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Benedict Arnold

Benedict Arnold had a reasonably successful career after betraying West point. The British gave him a command, and he raided Connecticut and Virginia. He wasn’t entirely trusted by the British, and had to subsist on reduced pay for a while, but he was able to speculate in land and bought a ship, and later outfitted a privateer. He certainly didn’t regret his life choices (stories about deathbed confession notwithstanding). He didn’t get military honors at his funeral, but he got “seven mourning coaches and four state carriages”, which is more than I’ll ever get.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/695 "2025-10-17T16:12:42Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> I’m hoping for something like [Mozart’s funeral](https://youtu.be/TUt4DfGnyJQ) as depicted in _Amadeus_.

I think he should be buried alongside [Ivana Trump](https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-real-2023-photos-213300066.html).

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/696 "2025-10-17T17:11:32Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#):
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> generations to come will know him as the central figure in one of our country’s darkest times.

I hope this is one of our country’s darkest times, but I don’t believe it couldn’t be worse, or even that worse is unlikely to come.

I don’t think Trump thinks about posterity or his own death. He strikes me as one of those people who has very effective mental blocks against anything so unpleasant.

Anyway, I am posting mostly to thank the OP for this thread. I enjoy seeing it every day, and opening it with hope. It can happen, after all; it is happening almost certainly.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/697 "2025-10-17T17:18:46Z")

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Too much sympathy in that clip.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/698 "2025-10-17T17:22:33Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> > [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#):
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> I don’t think Trump thinks about posterity or his own death. He strikes me as one of those people who has very effective mental blocks against anything so unpleasant.

I had originally been musing for a while that constantly verbally reminding Trump of his own imminent death, and lack of time left in life, may be one of the most effective ways to actually get through to him - in a way that no other mockery or criticism could. Even for a narcissist, being age 79 is kind of impossible to deny given his body’s growing inconveniences. But as you pointed out, it still might not click in his mind. And it might just make him lash out in worse ways instead.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/699 "2025-10-17T17:44:50Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> I enjoy seeing it every day, and opening it with hope.

I agree. It’s a nice thing to think about, and one fine day it will be the truth.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/700 "2025-10-17T17:56:08Z")

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Occam’s Razor says that they’re full of shit and the flag looked like that to the naked eye.

If it’s some elaborate visual effect via polarized film or something, surely they can demonstrate it.

Or, as common sense will tell you, they got caught and are trying a variation of the pathetic “it wasn’t me I got hacked” excuse.

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**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/701 "2025-10-17T18:43:09Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> My name is trump, king of kings; Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair! THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.

“They call me Ozymandias — a tremendous king, maybe the best king, everyone says so.  
Look at my buildings, folks, the biggest, most incredible works you’ve ever seen — total winners! — and believe me, you’re gonna despair, because nobody does it like I do.”

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