# Trump is dying

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 27, 2025, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520 "2025-08-27T07:09:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1102 "2025-12-12T22:44:09Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> But I can’t imagine Trump ever listening to his wife about anything, especially denying him something he wants, or having any sort of self-discipline. So he’s either on the shot, or having health problems…

Or nursing.

Good luck getting that image put of your head.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1103 "2025-12-12T22:48:54Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Good luck getting that image put of your head.

[![](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQuwBFWYXs7cVJYsEjdG-xqWa09ET9mUE4xuA&s) ](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQuwBFWYXs7cVJYsEjdG-xqWa09ET9mUE4xuA&s)

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**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1104 "2025-12-12T23:24:05Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> But I can’t imagine Trump ever listening to his wife about anything, especially denying him something he wants, or having any sort of self-discipline. So he’s either on the shot, or having health problems that are being hidden. I think either is plausible.

I have no idea whether or not Trump is using a GLP-1 drug, but I think it is obvious that he is having health issues that are being hidden. You don’t get an MRI without “probable cause”. Having a 2nd MRI subsequent to one a few months prior means whatever it is means the Drs are still suspicious.

The fact that Trump is lying about it isn’t really significant. He lies about everything. The fact that he has Bullshit Barbie lie for him about it is telling, though. BSB could just respond to questions about his hand with, “His doctors are fully aware of the President’s condition,” and leave it at that, citing confidentiality issues but instead recites an excuse that has obviously been crafted for her.

Now, I’m not saying, or even suggesting, that whatever health problems Trump is experiencing will lead directly to a timely death. Perhaps, perhaps not. But, the fact that Trump wants to hide whatever it is means it is not just bone spurs.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1105 "2025-12-12T23:28:55Z")

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> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#):
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> The fact that Trump is lying about it isn’t really significant. He lies about everything. The fact that he has Bullshit Barbie lie for him about it is telling, though.

Maybe. He’s been having people – including his doctors – talk about his “perfect health” for the past ten years, and it’s also clear that they have been doing that at his insistence. The fact that Leavitt is regularly insisting that he’s absolutely fine in press conferences is just more of the same.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1106 "2025-12-12T23:53:28Z")

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> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#):
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> I have no idea whether or not Trump is using a GLP-1 drug, but I think it is obvious that he is having health issues that are being hidden. You don’t get an MRI without “probable cause”. Having a 2nd MRI subsequent to one a few months prior means whatever it is means the Drs are still suspicious.

Agreed. That there are health problems being hidden is obvious, because they are doing a shit job of hiding them (or the symptoms are so obvious you can’t effectively hide them - like the bruise on his hand). Whether that’s solely the reason for the weight loss is another question.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1107 "2025-12-13T00:17:22Z")

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That’s pretty much corpse makeup, isn’t it? 😬

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1108 "2025-12-13T00:31:43Z")

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And the rest of his hand doesn’t look so great either!

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1109 "2025-12-13T01:43:39Z")

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> [@WolfpackJeep](#):
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> That’s pretty much corpse makeup, isn’t it? 😬

He already wears a ‘coffin clothes’ suit. His hole cabinet does.

![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/3Hj3U18FHgQ/maxresdefault.jpg)https://www.youtube.com/embed/3Hj3U18FHgQ?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=RD3Hj3U18FHgQ

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1110 "2025-12-13T05:33:12Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> weight loss in the elderly is often a bad sign

Unless it’s intentional, and under the care of two doctors. Ahem.

Hey, I’m not elderly, I’m only 76.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1111 "2025-12-13T12:05:21Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> How did he know it was a shot and not a pill?

While I rather doubt he’s this informed, the initial GLP-1 inhibitors are all injections due to the nature of the API involved. There’s been research for years into other APIs that can be formulated into an oral dose with some success but I’m not aware of anything that’s gotten approval yet.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1112 "2025-12-13T12:42:28Z")

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Intentional weight loss under the care of two doctors is not a cause for concern, at any age. 😉

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1113 "2025-12-13T14:05:31Z")

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[Picture of Joe Biden, smiling and clapping his hands; and a sleepy-looking, slack-jawed Donald Trump]: ‘Joe Biden is fighting prostate cancer, and he _still_ has more vitality that this decaying fossil.’

Cultist friend: Joe Biden is deceased 💀 💀 💀

And yes, she really believes that.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1114 "2025-12-13T14:12:43Z")

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Fun Fact: In Pokemon Go there is a Pokemon called “DonDozo”.

(Who says Japan doesn’t like to have a good laugh?)

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1115 "2025-12-13T14:27:27Z")

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Tell her they’re not singing “I….buried….Joe”; rather, it’s “Cran….berry….so….da.”

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1116 "2025-12-13T15:13:08Z")

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WTF. Is that ‘make-up’ on his hand real? Not AI? I’ve never done, make-up in my life, and my wife does not use it, but I could zip over to any drug store, super market or building product place and get something that would be better than that.

Jesus Christ, do the Michael Jackson thing and just wear one glove. And put on a KKK hood while your at it. There is NO disguising who and what you are.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1117 "2025-12-13T15:48:24Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> Well, he’s definitely lost weight over the last few years (although he seems to be gaining some back recently), so that I assumed he was on one of those drugs..

Or his caretakers are getting better at sneaking vegetables and fruits into his usual fast food-heavy diet. There was a photo of a White House meal featuring a happy face carved into a bell pepper, but It’s uncertain whether it was destined for Donald.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1118 "2025-12-13T16:15:34Z")

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Regarding the “excessive handshaking” rationalization: while I may be misremembering, I recall reading on more than one occasion that the Orange Peril is quite a germaphobe. If true, that would argue against even moderate handshaking, let alone excessive handshaking.

I suppose the two fact(oids) can be reconciled … provided one has a mind like a Möbius strip.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1119 "2025-12-13T16:24:30Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> while I may be misremembering, I recall reading on more than one occasion that the Orange Peril is quite a germaphobe. If true, that would argue against even moderate handshaking, let alone excessive handshaking.

He’s a germophobe, but he’s also notorious for shaking people’s hands in a dominating painful death grip to show what a tough guy he is.

[![](https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zcH1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7e35fd85-807c-4e68-938d-2760012d46ca_400x225.webp) ](https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zcH1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7e35fd85-807c-4e68-938d-2760012d46ca_400x225.webp)

But handshaking wouldn’t explain a bruise on the back of his hand.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1120 "2025-12-13T16:42:49Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> But handshaking wouldn’t explain a bruise on the back of his hand.

People, if you’ve ever been around someone (especially elderly) who takes blood thinners, there is often discoloration that looks like a bruise. To me that is obviously what this is. No need to look for any more sinister reason. (Not that I wouldn’t love a TRULY sinister cause…)

[![](https://media.sciencephoto.com/c0/02/96/82/c0029682-800px-wm.jpg) ](https://media.sciencephoto.com/c0/02/96/82/c0029682-800px-wm.jpg)

[![](https://assistinghands.com/15/wp-content/uploads/sites/38/2024/01/Bruise-on-an-Elderlys-Arm.png) ](https://assistinghands.com/15/wp-content/uploads/sites/38/2024/01/Bruise-on-an-Elderlys-Arm.png)

[![](https://media.sciencephoto.com/image/c0345485/800wm) ](https://media.sciencephoto.com/image/c0345485/800wm)

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1121 "2025-12-13T16:43:12Z")

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The odd thing to me about the ‘he shakes so many hands’ excuse is that they could’ve just stuck a small bandage over it and said 'he has some bruising from some recent (routine) bloodwork". I don’t think anyone would question that 90 year old, after having some blood drawn, would have a big bruise for a week.

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