# Trump is dying **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 27, 2025, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520 "2025-08-27T07:09:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 59
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2025, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1162 "2025-12-14T20:20:37Z")
The answer is yes. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2025, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1163 "2025-12-14T20:46:51Z")
MF, just get on with it ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2025, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1164 "2025-12-14T20:57:56Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > just get on with it I’d agree except that the line of succession is even scarier. > **[https://preview.redd.it/us-presidential-line-of-succession-v0-43pajnyuejme1.png?...](https://preview.redd.it/us-presidential-line-of-succession-v0-43pajnyuejme1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c18be31408c8db1652ab4f3803489cc6dd9e0ee9)** ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2025, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1165 "2025-12-14T21:05:28Z")
That’s an awful lot of Nerve Gas… ---
**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1166 "2025-12-14T21:10:26Z")
I’m actually not sure if that line of succession is scarier , for a few reasons. One of which is although I don’t particularly like Vance , he will have to be concerned about being re-elected, which Trump isn’t. Which is why Trump lets people go wild - Hegseth and possibly RFK would already be gone if Trump was worried about being re-elected , Miller seems to be running ICE and maybe telling Trump what’s going on afterward Another is because I don’t think any of them (especially not Vance) have the hold on MAGA that allows Trump to threaten Republicans who don’t do his bidding. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2025, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1167 "2025-12-14T21:24:34Z")
> [@doreen](#): > > Could be a combo Yes, that’s all plausible. > [@needscoffee](#): > > That theory came up only because there was news about that med that popped up online. There are myriad of meds he’s a candidate for. Sure, but the Alzheimer’s theory is bound to catch people’s attention more than something to do with ‘venous insufficiency.’ > [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > You put bruising in one hand and Epstein in the other, see which fills up headlines first. A _Bad Santa_ reference is always welcome! ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2025, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1168 "2025-12-14T22:54:22Z")
Hey, Kristi Noem is only 18 heartbeats away from the presidency! Actually, I wonder if the Presidential Succession Act is even constitutional. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2025, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1169 "2025-12-14T23:03:23Z")
> [@doreen](#): > > One of which is although I don’t particularly like Vance , he will have to be concerned about being re-elected, which Trump isn’t. Vance is a lot more capable than trump. I truly believe that they can fix it so that we’ll “never have to vote again” , as trump suggested before the election. Or that it won’t matter how we vote, because of election fraud. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1170 "2025-12-15T01:06:25Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Hey, Kristi Noem is only 18 heartbeats away from the presidency! How much room does that quarry have? ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1171 "2025-12-15T01:45:47Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Actually, I wonder if the Presidential Succession Act is even constitutional. There are legal opinions out there that the inclusion of the Speaker and President Pro Tem is not constitutional because the succession clause (Article 2, Section 1, Clause 6) specifically says Congress may determine what Officer shall act as president, and legislators are not Officers. Of course it’s never been tested. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1172 "2025-12-15T14:24:41Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > He does it to himself and is convinced that nobody can notice it. Melania looks nice in make-up, albeit in a way that I do not find attractive. Perhaps she gave him some hints before she stopped giving a shit. Or perhaps after she stopped giving a shit. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1173 "2025-12-15T14:33:53Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > I’d agree except that the line of succession is even scarier. Wow…I was well aware what a clown show the current cabinet is, but seeing it laid out so starkly in that line of succession illustration, is indeed pretty terrifying. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1174 "2025-12-15T15:07:33Z")
I’m not nearly as worried by those clowns, bad as they are. Trump is so dangerous because of the special hold he has on Republican voters. I see no evidence that this special hold would transfer to anyone else. No one had it before Trump (aside, maybe, from Reagan). Every other Republican candidate moderated their messaging because they needed crossover support to win. Because of that special hold, Trump has a stranglehold on Republican lawmakers, such that a Republican congress is almost an extension of Trump. I think that will all change when Trump is gone. Not that Republicans will suddenly be nice and easy to deal with, but they’ll go back to being more afraid of their electorate and donors than afraid of one man. And that’s much more predictable. All IMO of course. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1175 "2025-12-15T15:18:29Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Trump is so dangerous because of the special hold he has on Republican voters. Why though? Is it because they see a kindrid spirit? A bigot, a racist and rapist? These people need to know what they are. I guess they do, and they want a leader of the same. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1176 "2025-12-15T15:29:45Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Why though? Is it because they see a kindrid spirit? A bigot, a racist and rapist? The first two, for sure. I’m convinced that the main reason trump has such a hold on a certain contingent of the populace is simply that he expresses hate for the same people they hate. The third one, that may be a bit more complicated. Some trumpers are likely brainwashed into believing it to be ‘fake news’, while others may claim it to be fake news publicly, but in their dark hearts like the fact that he got away with it. ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1177 "2025-12-15T15:53:52Z")
Good lord, that succession image is just, what’s the phrase? _A basket of deplorables_. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1178 "2025-12-15T16:08:26Z")
Or a 20-piece bucket of shit. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1179 "2025-12-15T16:09:22Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > Perhaps she gave him some hints before she stopped giving a shit. > > Or perhaps after she stopped giving a shit. Trump is going to take advice from ~~arm candy~~ a woman? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1180 "2025-12-15T16:21:52Z")
> [@solost](#): > > I’m convinced that the main reason trump has such a hold on a certain contingent of the populace is simply that he expresses hate for the same people they hate. And Vance comes across as a smug, whiny guy. I don’t think he can get much of a following outside of a very small subset of MAGA; the young, frat bro guys. Even there, I’m not sure how devoted they’d be. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1181 "2025-12-15T17:08:32Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Trump is going to take advice from ~~arm candy~~ a woman? Even a thumbnail sized gent’s gentitals gets horny from time to time. And small hands do not help that problem. I can completely understand, at that point, asking a vindictive, disinterested and transaction-based person to.. ah.. argue the terms. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520.md?page=58) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520.md?page=60)