# Trump is dying

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 27, 2025, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520 "2025-08-27T07:09:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1182 "2025-12-15T17:43:46Z")

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I’m absolutely sure she could kick his ass. So he would probably do anything she wants, cause Donald want’s to please Putin.

But it’s only $ for Melanie, er Melania.

How anyone can live with themselves after supporting that bastard is a confusment to me.

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**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1183 "2025-12-15T23:25:57Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> I’m convinced that the main reason trump has such a hold on a certain contingent of the populace is simply that he expresses hate for the same people they hate.

Notice that the MAGA crowd ignores it when he expresses hate for people they love (ie, Dolly Parton)?

Their idolization of Trump is simply because he expresses hate. Prior to Trump, it was becoming increasingly more difficult to express hate towards anybody, particularly if it was hate for a group of people as opposed to a single human. Trump changed that.

So, as long as Trump is expressing hate and not getting called on it, they are happy. They don’t complain when they disagree with him because they want to be able exercise their hatred without limits.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1184 "2025-12-15T23:30:58Z")

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> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#):
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> Notice that the MAGA crowd ignores it when he expresses hate for people they love (ie, Dolly Parton)?

Ahem…

> **[MAGA Fan Tries To Go After 'Creepy Creature' Dolly Parton—And People Are Not...](https://www.comicsands.com/maga-fan-creepy-dolly)**
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> Don't you dare come for Dolly.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1185 "2025-12-15T23:33:52Z")

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Dolly is a treasure, going after her is not a smart thing to do in this country.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1186 "2025-12-15T23:34:01Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> How much room does that quarry have?

18 heartbeats? Given Noem as the baseline, is it possible to tell how many dogs in the quarry that is?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1187 "2025-12-15T23:51:21Z")

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MAGA is not having Trump’s posthumous insults to Rob Reiner.

> **[Piers Morgan leads charge as massive right-wing backlash hits Trump over Rob...](https://www.rawstory.com/rob-reiner-2674400641/)**
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> A number of influential right-wing figures are outraged after President Donald Trump issued a “disgusting” attack on Hollywood icon Rob Reiner just hours after the discovery of the director's and his wife’s deaths, which law enforcement is...

> **[Trump's own fans left repulsed by 'heartless' Rob Reiner comments: 'Please...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-reiner/)**
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> Donald Trump’s Monday morning post on Truth Social about the shocking death of Hollywood star Rob Reiner and his wife Michele Singer started out calling it, “A very sad thing.” But it quickly took an ugly turn in an attack that left onlookers...

> **['Delete that!' Charlie Kirk Show joins outrage over Trump's 'disgusting' Rob...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-reiner-2674400820/)**
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> Hosts of The Charlie Kirk Show condemned President Donald Trump's attack on Truth Social following the murder of liberal Hollywood director Rob Reiner."With Charlie's death, gruesome, I instantly saw the parallels," co-host Andrew Kolvet said on...

> **['Damn it!' Ana Navarro has on-air meltdown over Trump attack](https://www.rawstory.com/rob-reiner-trump/)**
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> Conservative host Ana Navarro condemned President Donald Trump's harsh attack on Rob Reiner following the death of the Hollywood director and his wife.During Monday's edition of The View, co-host Sonny Hostin noted that the president had blamed...

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1188 "2025-12-16T00:10:28Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> MAGA is not having Trump’s posthumous insults to Rob Reiner.

I predict that the over/under on the outrage is 48 hours.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1189 "2025-12-16T00:27:02Z")

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Based on what I’m seeing on Twitter, Trump cultists are getting a lot of satisfaction and giggles from Trump’s attack on Reiner.

True, a few far-right figures are sensing a backlash. Simon Goddek, a conspiracy theorist and anti-Semite who has 1.1 million Twitter followers, gloated today about Reiner getting karma, but later issued this “apology”.

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> Transparency tweet: I’ve deleted my tweet about Rob Reiner from 8 hours ago. At the time of posting, I wasn’t aware of the tragic circumstances surrounding his death. That said, he was one of the worst perpetrators of dehumanization during COVID, which is why I made the karma tweet in the first place. I’m sorry if I hurt anyone’s feelings. Amen.

I’m sorry Goddek is such a slimeball. De nada.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1190 "2025-12-16T00:28:32Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> > [@Smapti](#):
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> > MAGA is not having Trump’s posthumous insults to Rob Reiner.
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> I predict that the over/under on the outrage is 48 hours.

I will take the “under” on that bet.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1191 "2025-12-16T00:30:35Z")

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I’m surprised by the outrage, and expected a defense along the lines of, “Despite all of the hatred from Reiner, Trump was generous in saying that he and his wife should rest in peace, the Godly wonderful man that he is.”

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1192 "2025-12-16T00:42:01Z")

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What I’m seeing a lot on FB is “what about all the Democrats who celebrated Charlie Kirk’s death?” What I recall was recreational outrage from the right against anyone who didn’t declare that Kirk was the saintliest saint who ever sainted.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1193 "2025-12-16T00:44:33Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> What I recall was recreational outrage from the right against anyone who didn’t declare that Kirk was the saintliest saint who ever sainted.

And from the left, I recall a lot of, “He was awful but nobody should be killed for their political beliefs.”

Which would honestly be refreshing if that was coming from the right on this one. Different standards, of course.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1194 "2025-12-16T00:57:24Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> MAGA is not having Trump’s posthumous insults to Rob Reiner.
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> [Piers Morgan leads charge as massive right-wing backlash hits Trump over Rob Reiner - Raw Story](https://www.rawstory.com/rob-reiner-2674400641/)

I honestly don’t understand what their problem is with Trump’s statement about Reiner. Is it vile? Yes, but it’s completely within Donald’s character to say something like that. I would have to think real hard to even figure out if it’s in the top 10 of vile things he’s said over they years.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1195 "2025-12-16T01:53:45Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> What I recall was recreational outrage from the right against anyone who didn’t declare that Kirk was the saintliest saint who ever sainted.

Yes, this. And it was considered a horrible, HORRIBLE thing if you quoted the actual words that Charlie Kirk said. This was considered to be “celebrating his death”. By simply repeating what he actually said.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1196 "2025-12-16T01:54:58Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> I honestly don’t understand what their problem is with Trump’s statement about Reiner.

I think for some MAGA, they were trying to enjoy the moral high ground, and then Trump arrived and took a massive shit on the top of it.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1197 "2025-12-16T02:02:41Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> for some MAGA, they were trying to enjoy the moral high ground, and then Trump arrived and took a massive shit on the top of it.

Jack Posobiec literally tweeted this last night;

> <https://x.com/JackPosobiec/status/2000422599894159575>

I wonder how that egg on his face tastes.

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1198 "2025-12-16T02:06:38Z")

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He said “people,” not “monsters.”

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1199 "2025-12-16T02:13:20Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I wonder how that egg on his face tastes.

He’ll just ignore it like he never said anything.

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**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1200 "2025-12-16T15:39:04Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> > [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#):
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> > Notice that the MAGA crowd ignores it when he expresses hate for people they love (ie, Dolly Parton)?
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> Ahem…
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> [MAGA Lover Ripped After Insulting 'Creepy' Dolly Parton: VIDEO - Comic Sands](https://www.comicsands.com/maga-fan-creepy-dolly)

Yeah. Your cite says a MAGA influencer referred to Dolly as a “Creepy Creature” and was vilified. Trump said it and we got a [ho-hum]. Kinda proves my point. It is OK for Trump to ~~not like~~ hate Dolly even if they love her. What is important is that if Trump can say nasty things about Dolly, it’s OK for them to say nasty things about anybody.

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Dolly is a treasure, going after her is not a smart thing to do in this country.

Being “a smart thing to do” is not a requirement for Trump.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> MAGA is not having Trump’s posthumous insults to Rob Reiner.
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> [Piers Morgan leads charge as massive right-wing backlash hits Trump over Rob Reiner - Raw Story](https://www.rawstory.com/rob-reiner-2674400641/)  
> [Trump's own fans left repulsed by 'heartless' Rob Reiner comments: 'Please stop!'](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-reiner/)  
> ['Delete that!' Charlie Kirk Show joins outrage over Trump's 'disgusting' Rob Reiner attack](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-reiner-2674400820/)  
> ['Damn it!' Ana Navarro has on-air meltdown over Trump attack](https://www.rawstory.com/rob-reiner-trump/)

Let me know if they keep backlash up for more than a week. I doubt he’ll feel any heat from it after tomorrow, once all the MAGAs have decided that Trump was right after all.

> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> I predict that the over/under on the outrage is 48 hours.

Maybe I’m wrong. Hopefully, this will be that straw, but I suspect many more people will end up dying before that camel’s back goes out.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/1201 "2025-12-16T17:56:53Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> MAGA is not having Trump’s posthumous insults to Rob Reiner.

Just out of curiosity…has anybody on FOX expressed any outrage? You know, somebody that Trump might be watching? Jesse Watters, Greg Gutfeld, Sean Hannity?

Not Gutfeld, evidently.

> “I think the thing is, you don’t have to like the things that he says all the time. It is why, in my filter, Trump is always ‘words’ versus ‘deeds.’ I don’t have to like what he says. In fact, I can hate what he says. But I can also think in his brain, he is going, ‘This guy compared me to Hitler. He put a target on my back. I don’t like him,’” Gutfeld, 61, hypothesized.

> **[Gutfeld Desperately Tries to Rationalize Trump’s Rob Reiner Attack](https://www.thedailybeast.com/greg-gutfeld-desperately-tries-to-rationalize-trumps-rob-reiner-attack/)**
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> The Fox host claimed the president’s actions are more important than his words.

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