# Trump is Made Chair of the Kennedy Center **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 12, 2025, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248 "2025-02-12T21:55:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248/561 "2026-06-17T19:52:43Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > > [@Czarcasm](#): > > > > …but the actual article said the double rainbow appeared when has name was _scheduled_ to be removed. > > God didn’t get the memo.   God is far away and it’s possible that His internet was down. More seriously, I’m pretty sure that the Trump name is down to avoid unnecessary legal entanglements but the tarp is still up on the orders of the Orange Toddler out of sheer spite. The controversy it arouses warms the inner parts of his publicity-seeking reptilian brain, and it’s a way to avoid acknowledging the reality of what actually happened. I think another operative element here is the hope or belief that the name can eventually be restored after incessant appeals, possibly right up to the toadies on the Supreme Court. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248/562 "2026-06-17T20:04:30Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I’m pretty sure that the Trump name is down… Given Trump’s track record with court order compliance, I am pretty sure that Trump is up to some bullshit. I have zero confidence that his name was removed until I see it for myself. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248/563 "2026-06-17T20:21:01Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I am pretty sure that Trump is up to some bullshit. That tarp is not going anywhere. They say that it’s there for work to be done on the building. But, come on. People working inside that enclosed space in D.C. in the summer? I’m actually surprised they are making any excuses since there is no way to make them take it down and they are shameless. Just admit it’s a “fuck you” to the public. MAGA would love it. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248/564 "2026-06-17T20:39:14Z")
Genuine question, I’m not a lawyer so someone please feel free to fight my ignorance on this. We still don’t have independent confirmation that the name has been removed due to that damn tarp that’s been up since the last week. It seems like there should be some sort of court-appointed Independent verification, apart from a regime toady, that can confirm the order was legally followed. What good is a court order if the court itself can’t confirm that it’s order was followed? I feel like I’m missing something obvious here. I don’t expect the actual judge themselves to go and look at the front of the building, but it seems like there should be an easy solution to this that no one is considering or addressing? ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248/565 "2026-06-17T20:48:56Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > If I’m reading this correctly, Trump is concerned that by reverting the name, all donations made to The Trump Kennedy Center will have to be returned. So what’s his plan? Easy, start a new fund called “The Trump Kennedy Center” [and I’m speculating here] so all that money goes to him instead. > [Kennedy Center to establish new endowment in Trump's name after court forces name change - CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-kennedy-center-fund-name-removed/) Did you notice that, in that article, it says that the fund was established unanimously? I wonder if that includes a vote by Rep. Joyce Beatty, who was muted during the “unanimous” vote to add his name to the building. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248/566 "2026-06-17T20:57:13Z")
I too am no lawyer, and as such I don’t see why the plaintiffs could not make such a request of the court. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248/567 "2026-06-17T21:25:46Z")
It might be that The Powers That Be are stalling just to see if the ruling is overturned (as so many others have been in the past) allowing the judge involved in the current ruling to say “Since my ruling was overturned anything I now do is moot. I wash my hands.” ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248/568 "2026-06-17T22:22:30Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > But it wasn’t removed at that time, and we still don’t know if it has actually been removed at all yet. > **[The removal of Trump’s name from the Kennedy Center is a much-needed act of...](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/16/trump-name-removed-kennedy-center-political-revolt)** > > The desecration of a ruler’s symbols is among the oldest forms of political revolt > When the appeal failed, the Department of Justice filed a [certification](https://abcnews.com/Politics/trumps-removed-kennedy-center-noon-saturday-judge/story?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dhfacebook&utm_content=app.dashsocial.com/abcnews/library/media/684840502&id=133841904) that the court order would be obeyed. The crew draped the scaffold with the tarp. In its shadow, workers began the demolition. The only evidence that this was happening is a photograph taken by the [AP](https://apnews.com/photo-gallery/workers-prepare-remove-trump-s-name-kennedy-center-photos-b9736b7a5eda454eb7183b3ff968b691) through a gap at the side. If you look at the photo, it shows a worker removing the “P”. But yes, the tarp remains up. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248/569 "2026-06-17T23:04:37Z")
That’s old news in this thread. It also proves nothing except that someone was holding what looks like a letter “p”. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248/570 "2026-06-17T23:19:29Z")
Release the P tape! ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248/571 "2026-06-18T11:45:22Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Did you notice that, in that article, it says that the fund was established unanimously? I wonder if that includes a vote by Rep. Joyce Beatty, who was muted during the “unanimous” vote to add his name to the building. Her vote was not counted. The board decided that, as an ex-officio, she didn’t have voting rights. However, that’s not a thing the board can just decide. By law, unless it says otherwise in the bylaws, an ex-officio has the same voting rights as any other board member. In fact, if you look at Count Three of her lawsuit, it’s about exactly that. > **[New Lawsuit Challenges Illegal Renaming of the Kennedy Center | Washington...](https://washingtonlitigationgroup.org/news/new-lawsuit-challenges-illegal-renaming-of-the-kennedy-center/)** > > December 22, 2025 – Congresswoman Joyce Beatty today sued President Trump and others to stop the unlawful renaming of the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts. The lawsuit was brought on behalf of the Congresswoman in her capacity as an ex... She points out that since the board was stacked with Trump loyalists, they didn’t even have to do that, they just want to be able to say it was a unanimous vote. She also mentions that the fact that this was done 24 hours after the vote means it was always going to happen, the “vote” was just a formality. Otherwise, for example, the lettering wouldn’t have already been made. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248/572 "2026-06-18T15:37:51Z")
Not fair! I’m sure you can have fake gold letters shipped overnight from Temu. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248/573 "2026-06-18T16:50:56Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > Release the P tape! Golf clap. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248/574 "2026-06-18T17:50:22Z")
Right. But the article you linked is about the naming of the building. My question is about the new endowment fund. The story on _that_ also says that establishing the fund was a unanimous decision. But I have trouble believing that Beatty would have gone along with that vote, so I was wondering if they had counted her vote on that issue. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248/575 "2026-06-18T18:34:21Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > But I have trouble believing that Beatty would have gone along with that vote, so I was wondering if they had counted her vote on that issue. Maybe she just declined to vote or wasnt there that day? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248/576 "2026-06-18T18:56:51Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Maybe she just declined to vote or wasnt there that day? Where did you hear this? I can’t find mention of this possibility, and if it was true right wingers would be shouting it from the rooftops. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248/577 "2026-06-18T18:59:53Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Where did you hear this? Did you read my post? > [@DrDeth](#): > > Maybe she just declined to vote or wasnt there that day? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248/578 "2026-06-18T19:02:07Z")
Yeh, I read it, and I was wondering if your speculation, which goes against everything I have seen reported, was actually based on anything at all. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248/579 "2026-06-18T19:10:26Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Yeh, I read it, and I was wondering if your speculation, which goes against everything I have seen reported, was actually based on anything at all. I asked a question. Do you have an answer of how > [@Superdude](#): > > But I have trouble believing that Beatty would have gone along with that vote, so I was wondering if they had counted her vote on that issue. or do you got nothing? It is a question. If you dont have an answer, why post > [@Czarcasm](#): > > Where did you hear this? Since i obviously didnt hear it anywhere, since I was asking a question. Do you have an answer? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248/580 "2026-06-18T22:42:53Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > My question is about the new endowment fund. The story on _that_ also says that establishing the fund was a unanimous decision. But I have trouble believing that Beatty would have gone along with that vote, so I was wondering if they had counted her vote on that issue. > **[Kennedy Center creates Trump fund after being forced to remove president’s name](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-kennedy-center-endowment-fund-b2996057.html)** > > Rep. Joyce Beatty accused the center’s Trump-appointed trustees of being ‘more focused on elevating the President than advancing the arts’ > The center’s board of trustees — handpicked by Trump after he purged its membership last year — unanimously voted to create the fund, _[CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-kennedy-center-fund-name-removed/)_ reported Sunday. Beatty is not on the Board. So, indeed, she wasnt there, since she shouldnt have been there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-made-chair-of-the-kennedy-center/1014248.md?page=30)