# Trump is morphing into Hillary Clinton **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 26, 2016, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673 "2016-12-26T23:41:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673/21 "2016-12-27T12:11:34Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I think I may have [ninja’d **Thelma** on this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19877561&postcount=160). No prob. It can’t be said too often. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673/22 "2016-12-27T12:31:43Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > I’ll say it again: > > **The most profoundly stupid and uninformed voters in America put the most spectacularly unqualified candidate into the world’s most powerful office.** > > The alarm needs to be sounded loudly and long. “Just the place for a Snark!” the Bellman cried, As he landed his crew with care; Supporting each man on the top of the tide By a finger entwined in his hair. “Just the place for a Snark! I have said it twice: That alone should encourage the crew. Just the place for a Snark! I have said it thrice: What I tell you three times is true.” You’ve probably said it more than thrice, careless of the fact that constant repetition doesn’t make something true. But you’re bound to keep reminding us until (hopefully) like the Baker you softly and suddenly vanish away. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673/23 "2016-12-27T13:05:11Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > I’m with you. Nothing in his behavior since the election has been at odds with his behavior before the election. Any prior statements that don’t serve his purposes today will be ignored as if they never happened. You’re wrong on just one thing there. Trump actually told his supporters that he specifically said stuff he did not mean just because “it sounded good” to them and that would get them to vote for him. They still lap up his vomit. He’s not ignoring his statements as though they never happened; he’s specifically stating that he lied to his supporters. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673/24 "2016-12-27T13:13:44Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > …But you’re bound to keep reminding us until (hopefully) like the Baker you softly and suddenly vanish away. If you don’t want to be reminded (and you’re right, I will keep on doing it), I suggest you skip my threads. It isn’t my repetition that makes it true; it’s the fact that I’m reporting stuff that has actually happened. THAT’S what makes it true. See the difference? Love the _Hunting of the Snark_ references. ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673/25 "2016-12-27T13:27:40Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > I’ll say it again: > > **The most profoundly stupid and uninformed voters in America put the most spectacularly unqualified candidate into the world’s most powerful office.** It is always heartening for those of us who revulse at the very thought of democracy to see it’s acolytes despising ordinary people. Anyway, I’m less _qualified_ than the repulsive Trump. Most of the folk on this board are. The main anguish for the establishment people who scream about Trump the most is that he is not a politician — and apparently only trained establishment politicians can lead us to the high uplands. Preferably blindfolded and keeping our opinions to ourselves. Those who despise the cretins also think them incapable of risk assessment: many will be worse off under his policies — _but they would have been no better off under Hillary_. Economic Inequality barely got better under 8 years of Obama, it can only shift further down under Trump or Hillary. They decided they would rather look at the jubilant face of Trump than the self-righteous smugness of Hillary. That’s their _right_. > [@](#): > > The alarm needs to be sounded loudly and long. Well whatcha gonna do ? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673/26 "2016-12-27T14:03:54Z")
> [@Evan\_Drake](#): > > …The main anguish for the establishment people who scream about Trump the most is that he is not a politician … No, that’s not the main objection. You haven’t been paying attention. This is one reason why I keep posting things that reveal Trump’s ineptitude, lack of principles, vanity, inconsistency, and just plain stupidity. Eventually it may sink in to some people’s heads what kind of man we will soon have as President. Or not. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673/27 "2016-12-27T15:34:10Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > If he completes the transformation into Hillary, maybe he will be our first transgendered President. Well, his hands are probably already the same size as Hillary’s. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673/28 "2016-12-27T18:34:52Z")
> [@Evan\_Drake](#): > > It is always heartening for those of us who revulse at the very thought of democracy to see it’s acolytes despising ordinary people. Just out of curiosity, what’s your opinion on the kind folks who, back in 1933, voted for a charming young politician by the name of “Adolf Hitler”? I think most of the people who voted for him were kinda terrible people. Extreme example? Sure. But if you voted for Trump, you’re either ignorant or evil. > [@](#): > > Anyway, I’m less _qualified_ than the repulsive Trump. Most of the folk on this board are. The main anguish for the establishment people who scream about Trump the most is that he is not a politician — and apparently only trained establishment politicians can lead us to the high uplands. Preferably blindfolded and keeping our opinions to ourselves. Actually, the main anguish regarding Trump has a lot more to do with the fact that he knows nothing, seems utterly uninterested in learning anything, and is already causing international incidents while flying by the seat of his pants with no clue what he’s doing or talking about… But by all means, let’s feed _his_ fucking myth that it’s because he’s not part of the “establishment”, and not that he’s unqualified and arrogant in ways that are legitimately dangerous. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > Those who despise the cretins also think them incapable of risk assessment: many will be worse off under his policies — _but they would have been no better off under Hillary_. Economic Inequality barely got better under 8 years of Obama, it can only shift further down under Trump or Hillary. They decided they would rather look at the jubilant face of Trump than the self-righteous smugness of Hillary. Hey buddy. Is “better” or “worse” better? Yeah, economic inequality _barely_ got better under Obama. Clinton had well-thought-out plans for combating income inequality. Trump’s party thinks it’s just a bunch of whining, have rolled out plans to kneecap obamacare, and is making the stinkeye towards medicare and social security. There’s a difference between skepticism and cynicism. This leaps _way_ over that line. “Everything is shit, therefore everything is equally shit.” Fuck that noise. If you think Clinton would have been just as bad for you as Trump, and you aren’t in the top 0.1%, you are _wrong_. Just like the fucking morons who said that Bush and Gore were both just as bad. > [@](#): > > That’s their _right_. And it’s our right to point out what a colossally _stupid_ decision that was. Just like most of what you say in your post. > [@](#): > > Well whatcha gonna do ? Ask you nicely not to be such an idiot next time? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673/29 "2016-12-27T18:41:58Z")
> [@Evan\_Drake](#): > > The main anguish for the establishment people who scream about Trump the most is that he is not a politician No, that is not even on the list. His pandering to racism, xenophobia, and misogyny are on it, as is the deliberate ignorance that threatens the security of us all, the corruption that will inevitably follow his inescapable business conflicts, his contempt for anyone but his fellow wealthy that will endanger the livelihoods and health of most of us … is it really necessary to continue? No, his not being a politician is hardly an issue. What is an issue is that so many of us are happy and proud to buy into all of that. ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673/30 "2016-12-27T19:00:39Z")
So, which is worse? A Trump that attempts to follow through on his campaign promises or one that doesn’t? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673/31 "2016-12-27T19:04:39Z")
I don’t know what could be worse than his campaign promises and the ids they aroused, so that. Not that we have any idea what he really \*is \*going to do, other than fuck up. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673/32 "2016-12-27T19:09:06Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > I’ll say it again: > > **The most profoundly stupid and uninformed voters in America put the most spectacularly unqualified candidate into the world’s most powerful office.** > > The alarm needs to be sounded loudly and long. > > **ThelmaLou** is performing a Public Service. I don’t care about this so much as it’s all coming from the same person. Many people creating “anti-Trump” threads? No biggie. One poster creating thread after thread after thread after thread about Trump, however, borders (IMO) on becoming a one trick pony or should maybe start thinking about either trying to keep it all in one “trump” topic or maybe starting a blog to get them feelings out. Just my two cents. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673/33 "2016-12-27T19:21:05Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > I don’t care about this so much as it’s all coming from the same person. Many people creating “anti-Trump” threads? No biggie. One poster creating thread after thread after thread after thread about Trump, however, borders (IMO) on becoming a one trick pony or should maybe start thinking about either trying to keep it all in one “trump” topic or maybe starting a blog to get them feelings out. > > Just my two cents. Here’s your change. _\_ What the hell do you care? Seriously. If you don’t like my threads, don’t read them. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673/34 "2016-12-27T19:25:07Z")
Criticizing Trump here can be cathartic or entertaining, but the idea that it’s helping the cause is a bit silly. Are there even 10 Trump supporters on this site? Posting such messages to a pro-Trump community would be better, assuming you don’t get banned instantly. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673/35 "2016-12-27T19:27:21Z")
Discussing \*\*me \*\*is the most pointless exercise of all. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673/36 "2016-12-27T19:34:44Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Discussing \*\*me \*\*is the most pointless exercise of all. :rolleyes: But isn’t it all about you? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673/37 "2016-12-27T19:41:11Z")
NEWSFLASH: Donald T\*\*\*\* is a lying, hypocritical sack of shit. Also, his hair looks silly. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673/38 "2016-12-27T20:29:36Z")
> [@MikeF](#): > > So, which is worse? A Trump that attempts to follow through on his campaign promises or one that doesn’t? Grin! Good point. Insisting that he follow through on his promises is a little like those who have argued that the Koran is a book of hatred and thus Muslims “should” kill indiscriminately. It’s trying to force someone into the worst possible pigeonhole, rather than being glad when they aren’t in the worst possible pigeonhole. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673/39 "2016-12-27T20:31:08Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Grin! Good point. Insisting that he follow through on his promises is a little like those who have argued that the Koran is a book of hatred and thus Muslims “should” kill indiscriminately. It’s trying to force someone into the worst possible pigeonhole, rather than being glad when they aren’t in the worst possible pigeonhole. That’s assuming we _know_ the worst possible pigeonhole. We may learn of exciting and new worst case scenarios here in the next coupla years. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673/40 "2016-12-27T20:54:25Z")
We’d be lucky if Trump was morphing into Hillary Clinton. Unfortunately, what he’s morphing into is the right wing caricature of Hillary Clinton. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-morphing-into-hillary-clinton/775673.md?page=3)