# "Trump is not a bad person, make an effort to like him" - oooooooookayee **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 15, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057 "2016-11-15T15:14:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/41 "2016-11-16T07:00:59Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > I support Iraq war coz I think Saddam Hussain was a tyrant. > > But Assad is liberal, secular, sophisticated, educated(a medical doctor)and sane person who USA tried to topple. It would have caused annihilation of non-sunni minority and more Islamic intolerance and backwardness (including against women, lgbt etc.) in Syria. So Assad had to stand up and fight the dirty war for correct reasons. Assad is a butcher, just as bad as Saddam - maybe worse. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/42 "2016-11-16T07:02:21Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > I think you don’t understand Trump…he is smarter than u think…he won the election, its no small achievement. You should appreciate how much he understands the ground situation and peoples minds…he understands difference between what’s Rhetoric n what’s practicable…he can be the best President of USA in a generation… No, that proves any asshole can be president. And boy did we get an asshole this time. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/43 "2016-11-16T07:29:47Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > [uncontestably freakingly vile grosser-than-shit fuckwad] understands difference between what’s Rhetoric n what’s practicable…he can be the best President of USA in a generation… Can you please elaborate on these two observations? I’d be curious to see how you can formulate a sound, credible case on how someone one chromosome slightly off from a syphilitically retarded orangutan’s can convincingly display _ **A-N-Y** _ instances of showing a thorough grasp of the distinction between “…what’s Rhetoric n what’s practicable”. And I’m guessing this generation you’re talking about started in 2000? (but leaving out all that icky, inconvenient 2008 - 2016 stuff) ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/44 "2016-11-16T07:47:08Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > No, you are a butt-hurt moron and now after Trump win, perhaps a little more butt-hurt. Hahaha Regardless of what history you had with that poster, I just hope you don’t chirp that too much in, like, real, physical world type situations. Fuque it - sleepy time. Hopefully there’s something in the morning that will get me all smiley chirpy. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/45 "2016-11-16T08:26:38Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > He also won because the election had the lowest voter turnout in recent history - he won because nobody thought it was even a contest or because they loathed both candidates. Being enough of a buffoon that people don’t take you seriously at all isn’t exactly a proof of great smarts. Yep. Approximately 23% of people eligible to vote voted for him. Hardly a ringing endorsement. Even among the people who did vote, Trump only got ~43%. Not really feeling the love there (especially since Hillary got approximately half a percentage point more - not exactly singing her praises, either, but she did speak - or at least come across as less terrifying - to marginally more people than Trump). ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/46 "2016-11-16T08:42:15Z")
> [@Eddie The Horrible](#): > > Regardless of what history you had with that poster,\*\* I just hope you don’t chirp that too much in, like, real, physical world type situations.\*\* > > Fuque it - sleepy time. Hopefully there’s something in the morning that will get me all smiley chirpy. of course, I am the nicest man you will meet in real life. This is one of the few or the only time I have used bad words for Monty sweetheart. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/47 "2016-11-16T11:53:20Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > But Assad is liberal, secular, sophisticated, educated(a medical doctor)and sane person who USA tried to topple. It would have caused annihilation of non-sunni minority and more Islamic intolerance and backwardness (including against women, lgbt etc.) in Syria. So Assad had to stand up and fight the dirty war for correct reasons. Is it possible a democracy movement in Syria would have failed and led to trouble? Sure. It’s possible. It is however _certain_ that what you admit is a dirty war has killed millions and driven millions out of their homes. And the violence started with Assad and no one else. [Syria's crackdown on protesters becomes dramatically more brutal | Syria | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/25/syria-crackdown-protesters-brutal) It’s also certain that the kind of philosophy that produces statements like “So Assad had to stand up and fight the dirty war for correct reasons.” rarely comes from minds where all the gears are meshing correctly. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/48 "2016-11-16T12:39:13Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > you are a butt-hurt moron and now after Trump win, perhaps a little more butt-hurt. Hahaha As I said, dishonest troll. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/49 "2016-11-16T12:51:12Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > As I said, dishonest troll. That’s it? Hahaha. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/50 "2016-11-16T12:59:49Z")
> [@naita](#): > > Is it possible a democracy movement in Syria would have failed and led to trouble? Sure. It’s possible. It is however _certain_ that what you admit is a dirty war has killed millions and driven millions out of their homes. And the violence started with Assad and no one else. [Syria's crackdown on protesters becomes dramatically more brutal | Syria | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/25/syria-crackdown-protesters-brutal) > > It’s also certain that the kind of philosophy that produces statements like “So Assad had to stand up and fight the dirty war for correct reasons.” rarely comes from minds where all the gears are meshing correctly. I suggest you listen to Assad’s interviews on the internet to understand what kind of person he is and compare with Saddam, Obama, Trump or whoever. I believe if you are unbiased, you will admire him and what he stands for. And realise how wrong Obama’s policy was. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/51 "2016-11-16T15:01:28Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > of course, I am the nicest man you will meet in real life. Impossible. Nothing would be nicer than never meeting you. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/52 "2016-11-16T15:39:25Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Impossible. Nothing would be nicer than never meeting you. Would you meet me if you could change election result by doing that? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/53 "2016-11-16T15:43:46Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > The Democrats have spent decades trying to _pretend_ that the Republicans are basically decent, well meaning people … They have? In what alternate universe did that happen? In this one the Democrats and Republicans have been vilifying and dehumanizing each other for decades. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/54 "2016-11-16T16:02:18Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > I suggest you listen to Assad’s interviews on the internet to understand what kind of person he is and compare with Saddam, Obama, Trump or whoever. > > I believe if you are unbiased, you will admire him and what he stands for. And realise how wrong Obama’s policy was. So either you’re a genius and President Obama is an idiot, or you are precisely the fucking moron that everyone says you are, as supported by every ungrammatical stupid Twitter-speak drivel you’ve ever posted here. Hard to decide. I’ll have to think about it, but meanwhile I refer you to the [Dunning-Kruger effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect). It’s something you should know about. > [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Would you meet me if you could change election result by doing that? 😛 I might, but I’d insist on wearing a haz-mat suit and then having a very long decontamination shower afterwards, just in case. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/55 "2016-11-16T16:23:05Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > So either you’re a genius and President Obama is an idiot, or you are precisely the fucking moron that everyone says you are, as supported by every ungrammatical stupid Twitter-speak drivel you’ve ever posted here. Hard to decide. I’ll have to think about it, but meanwhile I refer you to the [Dunning-Kruger effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect). It’s something you should know about. The problem is, some people can’t just chill, and must infest themselves with perpetual negativity and hate. I won’t say you have any condition but try to chill and you will have a less miserable life. > [@](#): > > I might, but I’d insist on wearing a haz-mat suit and then having a very long decontamination shower afterwards, just in case. Thanks. It would still be fun. Lol. Let me tell you, I am humble, soft spoken and a respecting person who is a good host as well. I am a vegetarian, so if you’re also one, we can enjoy a meal or snacks together even better. I love you. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/56 "2016-11-16T17:27:46Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > USA should have sided with Assad or at worst remained neutral. Even if I give you the benefit of doubt now, you should atleast realise how much bloodshed atrocities pain and agony American policy caused. So, once again, you make a stupid comment and when asked for evidence you can only repeat your stupidity. So noted. Your claim that Assad was “liberal” is an utter lie. We have no evidence that Assad is actually sane. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/57 "2016-11-16T17:33:09Z")
Ahh, the hell with it. If **truthSeeker2** ever posts something worth reading, I’m sure I’ll catch it from some other source. Well, to paraphrase Paul Masson, “We will dispense no plonk before its time.” It’s time. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/58 "2016-11-16T17:34:17Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > So, once again, you make a stupid comment and when asked for evidence you can only repeat your stupidity. > > So noted. > > Your claim that Assad was “liberal” is an utter lie. > We have no evidence that Assad is actually sane. Have you listened to any of his interviews or media interactions? He is saner and more sophisticated than Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/59 "2016-11-16T17:38:13Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Have you listened to any of his interviews or media interactions? > > He is saner and more sophisticated than Obama. No-Trump just speaks down to your level and tells you what you want to hear. He can’t even _fake_ sophistication, and at this point I doubt either of you would recognize it if you saw it. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/60 "2016-11-16T17:45:03Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > No-Trump just speaks down to your level and tells you what you want to hear. He can’t even _fake_ sophistication, and at this point I doubt either of you would recognize it if you saw it. Trump is not sophisticated but still is honest n likeable. But i was talking abt Assad [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057.md?page=4)