# "Trump is not a bad person, make an effort to like him" - oooooooookayee **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 15, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057 "2016-11-15T15:14:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/81 "2016-11-16T18:41:42Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Wouldn’t help. Can’t spell check your way out of ignorance. But we can CNN our way out of ignorance ? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/82 "2016-11-16T18:42:28Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > It (the war) didn’t happen to us . So we can take it as a joke . But imagine what those Syrians had to suffer. Trump couldn’t find Syria on a map that just had Syria and Lebanon on it, and he really doesn’t give a flying fuck about either country. No joke. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/83 "2016-11-16T18:43:48Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > But we can CNN our way out of ignorance ? I like your other bumbersticker better-this one is too stupid to live. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/84 "2016-11-16T18:44:17Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Trump couldn’t find Syria on a map that just had Syria and Lebanon on it, and he really doesn’t give a flying fuck about either country. > No joke. Still better than fomenting trouble in those countries. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/85 "2016-11-16T18:51:43Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Still better than fomenting trouble in those countries. You got “bad guys”? He wants to bomb “bad guys”! You got oil? He wants to take oil! He doesn’t need to personally know where the countries are or give a flying fuck about the peoples that live there to do either of those things. How convenient! ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/86 "2016-11-16T18:54:49Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > You got “bad guys”? He wants to bomb “bad guys”! > You got oil? He wants to take oil! > He doesn’t need to personally know where the countries are or give a flying fuck about the peoples that live there to do either of those things. How convenient! Obama is tried tested and failed(in Syria - immense agony and loss of life) please at least try Trump before passing judgement. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/87 "2016-11-16T18:58:31Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Obama is tried tested and failed(in Syria - immense agony and loss of life) please at least try Trump before passing judgement. Works better as a bumpersticker…and don’t forget the stars, smiley faces and especially the rainbow. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/88 "2016-11-16T19:04:20Z")
I don’t think Trump is all bad. To take only one instance, although he’s constantly portrayed as a homophobe that just is not true. Quoting from [Fox News:](http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/11/15/donald-trump-will-be-friend-ally-and-advocate-for-lgbt-community.html) > [@](#): > > Despite the left’s attempts to demonize Donald Trump as a homophobe during the campaign, the truth was and is that Donald Trump is unquestionably, the Republican Party’s most pro-gay presidential nominee in history. > > While Hillary Clinton was busy supporting Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell and the Defense of Marriage Act, Donald Trump was hiring LGBT Americans, promoting LGBT Americans and offering benefits to the partners and families of LGBT Americans. > > Donald Trump has long been a friend, an ally and an advocate for the LGBT community. . Sure, he’s appointed homophobes but they have been appointed despite their homophobia not because of it. It’s just total bullshit that Trump is about to oppress the LGBTs. But of course the left must needs paint him as a totally wicked man, it suits their narrative far better. Does he have bad qualities? Sure he does, we all do, even, dare I say it, that patron saint of the progressives, Obama. Trump is not the bogeyman, although I’m sure many parents will be depicting him to their kids as just that for the duration of his term or terms. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/89 "2016-11-16T19:14:46Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > I don’t think Trump is all bad. To take only one instance, although he’s constantly portrayed as a homophobe that just is not true. Quoting from [Fox News:](http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/11/15/donald-trump-will-be-friend-ally-and-advocate-for-lgbt-community.html) > . > Sure, he’s appointed homophobes but they have been appointed despite their homophobia not because of it. It’s just total bullshit that Trump is about to oppress the LGBTs. But of course the left must needs paint him as a totally wicked man, it suits their narrative far better. Does he have bad qualities? Sure he does, we all do, even, dare I say it, that patron saint of the progressives, Obama. > > Trump is not the bogeyman, although I’m sure many parents will be depicting him to their kids as just that for the duration of his term or terms. You are quoting from Fox “News”. Got anything from a more gay-friendly source about how much of an advocate he is for gay rights? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/90 "2016-11-16T19:20:10Z")
I’m sitting in the airport at DC right now. I always bring a trinket home for the kids. I can’t buy a White House toy because of what it now symbolizes. I wouldn’t have had any such qualms during the Bush era (or the hypothetical Romney or McCain era). The White House is a symbol of a man who grabs women’s pussies. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/91 "2016-11-16T19:23:28Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > You are quoting from Fox “News”. Got anything from a more gay-friendly source about how much of an advocate he is for gay rights? I’m sure Mike Pence will be happy to clear up any reservations you might have. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/92 "2016-11-16T19:47:49Z")
You know what he should do? He should hold a big shindig, a party for all the people who have saved from The Gay by prayer! Might be awful crowded. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/93 "2016-11-16T20:24:16Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I’m sure Mike Pence will be happy to clear up any reservations you might have. Pence won’t be the President, barring unforeseen circumstance. Trump will and I’ve yet to hear any evidence at all that he’s hostile to the LGBT community. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/94 "2016-11-16T20:35:37Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Pence won’t be the President, barring unforeseen circumstance. Trump will and I’ve yet to hear any evidence at all that he’s hostile to the LGBT community. [You sure about that?](http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/11/09/here-is-what-president-trump-means-for-lgbt-rights/) While not openly hostile to LGBT rights, he’s at the very least passive aggressive. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/95 "2016-11-16T20:37:47Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Pence won’t be the President, barring unforeseen circumstance. Trump will and I’ve yet to hear any evidence at all that he’s hostile to the LGBT community. My opinion: What position will gain Trump the most money? That’s what he will follow. If a position on LGBT does not make or lose money for Trump, he won’t care, and will let Pence do whatever he wants. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/96 "2016-11-16T21:04:57Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Well, that guy said Trump was honest and liberal. > > Maybe those words mean something different in his native language. It is also possible that he was in a coma for the last 25 years. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/97 "2016-11-16T21:08:53Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Pence won’t be the President, barring unforeseen circumstance. Trump will and I’ve yet to hear any evidence at all that he’s hostile to the LGBT community. Ever hear of Ken Blackwell? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/98 "2016-11-16T22:38:02Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Trump-honest? > Did you read his book? The “Art Of The Deal”? He didn’t even write it. He hired someone else. I’ll tell you all his "art of dealing, with a “real world” example. You want to buy a car from me. My price is $30,000 You offer 10,000 You bully browbeat and holler until I cave and agree to 10,000 After you get your hands on the car you “renegotiate” down to a few hundred or DON’T PAY AT ALL. New York and New Jersey a are loaded with workers and contractors Trump fucked over in exactly this way. ---
**Author:** ![Skara\_Brae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Skara\_Brae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skara_Brae)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/99 "2016-11-16T23:33:59Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Pence won’t be the President, barring unforeseen circumstance. Trump will and I’ve yet to hear any evidence at all that he’s hostile to the LGBT community. One of his top picks for the Supreme Court is extremely anti-gay. [http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/11/16/trumps-top-pick-supreme-court-wants-imprison-gays-sex/](http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/11/16/trumps-top-pick-supreme-court-wants-imprison-gays-sex/) ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/100 "2016-11-17T01:26:15Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > My mother tongue is Hindi. I’d have thought Elbonian. ( **IF** we have ruled out Troll.) Still not a single shred of evidence for any claim you have made, I notice. Just more hand-waving and imaginary claims. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057.md?page=6)