# "Trump is not a bad person, make an effort to like him" - oooooooookayee **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 15, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057 "2016-11-15T15:14:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/101 "2016-11-17T06:22:04Z")
Based on his posting history, I’d say **truthSeeker 2** is either a troll or has had a frontal lobotomy. He has this ignorant juvenile quality. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/102 "2016-11-17T06:42:03Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Based on his posting history, I’d say **truthSeeker 2** is either a troll or has had a frontal lobotomy. He has this ignorant juvenile quality. So just because I happen to have different views than yours I become what you wrote? I usually avoid writing bad things for people even if they write bad things for me. I start feeling bad for others if I hurt them even unknowingly coz I am a nice guy. This place is infested with morons like you. You have an option of not being one. You should join ‘art of living’ course by Sri Sri Ravishankar. Cheers ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/103 "2016-11-17T07:25:55Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > I’d have thought Elbonian. ( **IF** we have ruled out Troll.) > > Still not a single shred of evidence for any claim you have made, I notice. Just more hand-waving and imaginary claims. This is absurd. There are literally one hundred plus videos of Assad on the internet. why don’t you confirm for yourself that he is a liberal and a secular man? And saner and sophisticated than Obama who contributed to murder of 300k Syrians due to interventionist policy. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/104 "2016-11-17T07:28:37Z")
Even if Trump himself is “not a bad person,” he is definitely giving power to people that I definitely think hold bad views. Which leads to the obvious conclusion. ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/105 "2016-11-17T08:15:01Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > This is absurd. There are literally one hundred plus videos of Assad on the internet. why don’t you confirm for yourself that he is a liberal and a secular man? And saner and sophisticated than Obama who contributed to murder of 300k Syrians due to interventionist policy. A true [Prince](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/02/syrian-officials-involved-war-crimes-bashar-al-assad-un-investigators) [among](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/un-condemns-assad-syria-abuse_us_57d7c49ce4b0fbd4b7bb50d8) [men.](http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2016/02/08/UN-report-Syrias-Assad-guilty-of-inhuman-crimes-gruesome-torture-deaths/8491454979690/) ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/106 "2016-11-17T12:56:15Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > So just because I happen to have different views than yours I become what you wrote? I usually avoid writing bad things for people even if they write bad things for me. I start feeling bad for others if I hurt them even unknowingly coz I am a nice guy. Nobody here is accusing you of not being a nice guy IRL. I’m sure you’re a welcoming host, a lovely conversationalist and for all we know you probably make a delicious vegetable vindaloo. None of which absolves you from being a fanboy and apologist for Assad, Trump and Putin (if I’m not mistaken). Being “nice” is not a virtue when you repeatedly voice support for authoritarian regimes and spew counter-factual rhetoric. Being “nice” does not excuse ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/107 "2016-11-17T13:27:52Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Nobody here is accusing you of not being a nice guy IRL. I’m sure you’re a welcoming host, a lovely conversationalist and for all we know you probably make a delicious vegetable vindaloo. None of which absolves you from being a fanboy and apologist for Assad, Trump and Putin (if I’m not mistaken). > > Being “nice” is not a virtue when you repeatedly voice support for authoritarian regimes and spew counter-factual rhetoric. Being “nice” does not excuse ignorance. People aren’t good sports. Many are unreasonable and angry for no reason. I wasn’t even supporting Trump by October-end, have mentioned it a couple of times. Have criticized him on diff issues as well…be it on climate change stand or on blanket ban on Muslims. I am criticising American (Obama’s) policy in Syria from perfectly legitimate view point. It seems by shouting loud over here, people are hiding guilt. Anyways, one should be happy and respecting and caring for others in life (I understand that internet and real life are different)… these worthless negative views by some posters mean nothing to me. I am just saying for their own sake that so much negativity makes their own life miserable… Cheers… ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/108 "2016-11-17T13:51:32Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > I am criticising American (Obama’s) policy in Syria from perfectly legitimate view point. It seems by shouting loud over here, people are hiding guilt. You can intelligently disagree with Obama’s foreign policy in Syria without supporting Assad’s methodical and well documented campaign of cruelty against his own people. Conflating those Syrians who oppose him with ISIS fighters is simply a vile denial of the facts. Demonstrate to us you comprehend this concept. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/109 "2016-11-17T14:21:58Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > You can intelligently disagree with Obama’s foreign policy in Syria without supporting Assad’s methodical and well documented campaign of cruelty against his own people. Conflating those Syrians who oppose him with ISIS fighters is simply a vile denial of the facts. > > Demonstrate to us you comprehend this concept. In wars, especially when you facing existential threats, these things happen. It’s not an ideal world. Opposition might not be same as ISIS but is guided by Islam only. I have seen Islam at work in Indian subcontinent as well…in Pakistan, in kashmir, in Afghanistan etc…its easy to create war and terrorism in the name of Islam You will see that all sects are supporting Assad which in itself is a tell-all sign. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/110 "2016-11-17T14:52:15Z")
If all sects are supporting Assad, who’s he at war with? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/111 "2016-11-17T15:30:31Z")
(still slightly derailing from OP, but…) **truthSeeker2** - Can you please post even one (1) youtube video that you feel adequately exemplifies Assad’s merits? And nope - you’re not allowed to respond something along the lines of “but there’s so many videos to choose from, take your pick.” YOU must chose one. Hoping to see one when I get back home from work later today. Thanks.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/112 "2016-11-17T15:30:52Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > In wars, especially when you facing existential threats, these things happen. It’s not an ideal world. Opposition might not be same as ISIS but is guided by Islam only. > > I have seen Islam at work in Indian subcontinent as well…in Pakistan, in kashmir, in Afghanistan etc…its easy to create war and terrorism in the name of Islam > > You will see that all sects are supporting Assad which in itself is a tell-all sign. It’s easy to create war and terrorism in the name of any religion. Your appraisal of who’s supporting Assad is simply delusional. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/113 "2016-11-17T15:44:28Z")
> [@Eddie The Horrible](#): > > (still slightly derailing from OP, but…) > **truthSeeker2** - Can you please post even one (1) youtube video that you feel adequately exemplifies Assad’s merits? > And nope - you’re not allowed to respond something along the lines of “but there’s so many videos to choose from, take your pick.” > YOU must chose one. > Hoping to see one when I get back home from work later today. > Thanks.🙂 Pls go to YouTube and type Assad , you will find plenty of long interviews. It can be easily figured that he is a calm, collected, sane, sophisticated, liberal, secular person. Edit: I can’t tell which ones I watched. It was long time back and lots of new Assad interviews have been added as well. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/114 "2016-11-17T15:47:23Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Pls go to YouTube and type Assad , you will find plenty of long interviews. It can be easily figured that he is a calm, collected, sane, sophisticated, liberal, secular person. Yes, [he’s as civilized as they come](http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21706225-dr-assad-turns-syrias-hospitals-death-traps-part-kneel-or-starve). ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/115 "2016-11-17T15:49:14Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > In wars, especially when you facing existential threats, these things happen. It’s not an ideal world. Opposition might not be same as ISIS but is guided by Islam only. You excuse an authoritarian’s actions against his country’s own citizens because, in war “these things happen”. (Strike one.) > [@truthSeeker2](#): > > I have seen Islam at work in Indian subcontinent as well…in Pakistan, in kashmir, in Afghanistan etc…its easy to create war and terrorism in the name of Islam You condemn an entire religion because there are places in the world where there are bad Islamic actors. (Strike two.) > [@truthSeeker2](#): > > You will see that all sects are supporting Assad which in itself is a tell-all sign. You lack the knowledge of what’s involved in the conflict in Syria. (Strike three.) So no, you can’t demonstrate that you have any concrete understanding of the subject you’re talking about. What’s hindi for, “you’re out”? ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/116 "2016-11-17T15:52:52Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > It’s easy to create war and terrorism in the name of any religion. Your appraisal of who’s supporting Assad is simply delusional. You are delusional. Infact you should be on advisory board of ‘how to be a angry delusional person when you have the option of not being one’ instead of a science advisory board … I see cricket is your interest. Are you watching india-england series? Good timepass. It might alleviate the hurting. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/117 "2016-11-17T16:01:37Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > You are delusional. Infact you should be on advisory board of ‘how to be a angry delusional person when you have the option of not being one’ instead of a science advisory board … You have the option of not being dumb. I don’t see you trying. > [@truthSeeker2](#): > > I see cricket is your interest. Are you watching india-england series? Good timepass. It might alleviate the hurting. 😛 Not a cricket fan. Nor baseball, for that matter. But familiar with the three strikes and you’re out rule. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/118 "2016-11-17T16:15:26Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Not a cricket fan. Nor baseball, for that matter. But familiar with the three strikes and you’re out rule. ‘You’re out’ would be ‘aapki paari samaapt hui’ Or not?, RNATB may help. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/119 "2016-11-17T16:44:04Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > AFAIK, I’ve only interacted with the target of this pitting in one thread. That was enough to see that the moron-in-question is dishonest and a raving bigot. Of course he supports Trump. Got him on ignore even before I put all the Trump gloaters on ignore. So it had to be pretty bad. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/120 "2016-11-17T18:31:35Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > I see cricket is your interest. Are you watching india-england series? Good timepass. It might alleviate the hurting. 😛 Cricket does not have strikes, you moron. Try to keep your fake persona consistent, MKay? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057.md?page=7)