# "Trump is not a bad person, make an effort to like him" - oooooooookayee

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 15, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057 "2016-11-15T15:14:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/121 "2016-11-17T18:35:33Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Cricket does not have strikes, you moron. Try to keep your fake persona consistent, MKay?

Cricket is Monty’s interest. See his profile page.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/122 "2016-11-18T00:27:35Z")

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> [@truthSeeker2](#):
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> Pls go to YouTube and type Assad.

uh-tut-tut-tut!

Remember?..

> [@Eddie The Horrible](#):
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> And nope - you’re not allowed to respond something along the lines of “but there’s so many videos to choose from, take your pick.”

You’re missing the point of this exercise, **truthSeeker2** , and that’s obviously to see how _you_ determine that Assad does good. So when you _do_ select a video, I’d like you to also highlight the parts that you feel bolster your conviction, by indicating the exact times (for example…@1:54 - Assad said this wonderful _bon mot_) whenever they appear in the video, alright?

Don’t you believe in backing what you say? Folks have already posted examples here of Assad doing really bad, right? Now it’s your turn to provide a counterexample, with notes. Don’t you want to be taken seriously?

Failure to do as I ask will not convince me Assad is good.

Please do not evade my request.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/123 "2016-11-18T01:24:28Z")

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> [@Eddie The Horrible](#):
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> …Please do not evade my request.

Man, if that works, I am _so_ going to use it!

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**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/124 "2016-11-18T02:02:48Z")

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@Eddie

It happens like how I said for some of the people over here to be taken seriously by me.

Go to youtube , type ‘Assad’ and open any of the interviews such as this (44-min long) one from 4 months back -

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/45odEv_1DAY/maxresdefault.jpg "Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad: Exclusive Interview | NBC Nightly News") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45odEv_1DAY)

And hopefully get convinced like these people (most seem Americans only) who made the top rated comments on the same vid.-

\*\*Mike - Pretty sad that I like this guy more than any of the candidates in the U.S. right now.﻿ (272 likes)

n God We Trust3 months ago - Gotta laugh. The reporter is too used to talking to his audience at a 5th grade level.  
Assad seems a better man than our Western elites and this reporter.﻿ (122 likes)

Casual Observer - Who wants to punch the reporter in the head?﻿ (703 likes)

Veronika Mars -we’re being told this guy is supposed to be super evil dicatotor. but he comes off as intelligent, well-mannered, and nice﻿ (312 likes)

LEGIONARIO - He is very clear when he says he is in power to protect the interests of the syrian people because thats his job and main responsability. And thats what bothers the west the most, HE IS PROTECTING SYRIA’s interests. This was a very provocative interview, and as usual he answered smartly﻿\*\*

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/125 "2016-11-18T02:26:48Z")

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> [@truthSeeker2](#):
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> This is absurd. There are literally one hundred plus videos of Assad on the internet. why don’t you confirm for yourself that he is a liberal and a secular man? And saner and sophisticated than Obama who contributed to murder of 300k Syrians due to interventionist policy.

What is absurd are your claims  
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[li]that Assad is “liberal” in any fashion where the word is used in the English language, given his extremist authoritarian overreaction to the original mild petitions from his own people to relax some of the harsher actions imposed by his almost-as-nasty father[/li][li]and that it is up to me to do your homework to prove a point for which you have failed to provide a single bit of evidence[/li][li]or that President Obama is responsible for the many deaths in Syria, (most of those deaths having been inflicted by Assad’s “security” forces), when Obama was originally condemned for failing to act against Assad’s tyranny when Assad first began ordering his troops to murder their countrymen.[/li][/ul]

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/126 "2016-11-18T02:35:10Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> [li]or that President Obama is responsible for the many deaths in Syria, (most of those deaths having been inflicted by Assad’s “security” forces), when Obama was originally condemned for failing to act against Assad’s tyranny when Assad first began ordering his troops to murder their countrymen.[/li][/LIST]

I think he’s saying Assad is simply putting down a Western backed rebellion. A popular view for the pro-Assad side.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/127 "2016-11-18T03:34:08Z")

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I’ve noticed **truthSeeker2’s** posts because they seem so divorced from reality. Consistently so. If it’s true he has not had a frontal lobotomy, always possible with this kid, then he is either a troll (my best guess) or he is suffering from some sort of delusional condition. Again, troll is my best guess. We probably should not be feeding him.

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**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/128 "2016-11-18T03:39:57Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> I’ve noticed **truthSeeker2’s** posts because they seem so divorced from reality. Consistently so. If it’s true he has not had a frontal lobotomy, always possible with this kid, then he is either a troll (my best guess) or he is suffering from some sort of delusional condition. Again, troll is my best guess. We probably should not be feeding him.

Did you consider ‘art of living’ sessions by Sri Sri Ravishankar that I recommended? It will help you elevate from your present miserable self. Cheers.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/129 "2016-11-18T03:40:46Z")

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Sure, Troll, I’ll jump right on that, yessirree. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/130 "2016-11-18T03:47:15Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Sure, Troll, I’ll jump right on that, yessirree. :rolleyes:

It’s a serious advice. You need it. Maybe someone from you friends and family can take u there. Cheers and all the best.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/131 "2016-11-18T03:49:43Z")

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Hopefully your family can take you somewhere, and I don’t mean to some bullshit swami.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/132 "2016-11-18T04:07:51Z")

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Well, **truthy** , I watched your youtube link. (One should put _ **complete zilcho** _ credence in what ANY youtube commenters have to say, btw.) While Assad certainly didn’t come across like Eddie Shack, I’m wondering how you can reconcile the apparent erudition of the man with this:

> **[It's not just Isis: Syrian defectors reveal true horrors of life under the...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syrian-defectors-reveal-horrors-of-life-under-bashar-alassad-s-regime-in-reminder-for-west-to-not-just-focus-on-fighting-isis-10458185.html)**
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> Pathologists describe atrocities of chemical weapons attacks, torture and rape of women and children in state's prisons

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> And Brigadier General Zaher al-Saket, the former head of the Chemical Weapons Research Centre of the 5th Division of the Syrian military, told the newspaper only Assad had the authority to approve chemical attacks – and that he still has half his nerve gas stockpile.

I’m not sure how Assad can justify fighting such a “dirty war”.

And we will _eventually_ get back to the fucking OP. 🙂

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**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/133 "2016-11-18T05:20:25Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Hopefully your family can take you somewhere, and I don’t mean to some bullshit swami.

It’s about you. How to improve your miserable state of being… Now you could watch those sessions on internet, but people say the aura of such places makes going there worthwhile…I don’t know…I just want you to get better, filled with positively…maybe find a creative hobby, may you find love as well (in case you aren’t getting enough love) or whatever else works for you. I love you…cheers.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/134 "2016-11-18T05:30:19Z")

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And the lobotomy theory just became clearer to everyone else.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/135 "2016-11-18T06:15:03Z")

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> [@truthSeeker2](#):
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> It’s about you. How to improve your miserable state of being… Now you could watch those sessions on internet, but people say the aura of such places makes going there worthwuhile…I don’t know…I just want you to get better, filled with positively…maybe find a creative hobby, may you find love as well (in case you aren’t getting enough love) or whatever else works for you. I love you…cheers.

Awww. This guy’s sweet. 💗

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/136 "2016-11-18T06:29:48Z")

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So yeah **dude who still needs to seek more** - that’d great if you can get back to  
post 36:

> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by **truthSeeker2**  
> Trump’s policies (foreign policy at least) will be far better for the world irrespective of what u say.

> [@Eddie The Horrible](#):
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> In your next post, **truthSeeker2** , I want you to delineate precisely what the flying jeebus you’re talking about, _preferably augmented with cites_.

and post 43:

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> Originally Posted by truthSeeker2[uncontestably freakingly vile grosser-than-shit fuckwad] understands difference between what’s Rhetoric n what’s practicable…he can be the best President of USA in a generation…

> [@Eddie The Horrible](#):
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> Can you please elaborate on these two observations? I’d be curious to see how you can formulate a sound, credible case on how someone one chromosome slightly off from a syphilitically retarded orangutan’s can convincingly display _ **A-N-Y** _ instances of showing a thorough grasp of the distinction between “…what’s Rhetoric n what’s practicable”.  
> And I’m guessing this generation you’re talking about started in 2000? (but leaving out all that icky, inconvenient 2008 - 2016 stuff)

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/137 "2016-11-19T03:07:37Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> I think he’s saying Assad is simply putting down a Western backed rebellion. A popular view for the pro-Assad side.

Well , that is certainly the lie that Assad has promoted and I can see where someone who wanted to swallow Assad’s line of crap would promote it. It is nonsense, of course. When Assad _fils_ took over for his father, there was a lot of hope that the Western educated son would begin to back off on his father’s brutish ways. There may have been comments to that effect in the Western media, but there was no Western agitation to make it happen. Instead, he ruled with increasing oppressive force for 11 years and as soon as hopeful Syrians began to express desires to mitigate the authoritarian, anti-free press rules in play, Assad reacted against them with violence. The “rebellion” went on for several months before any Western media even called much attention to it. The opposition, facing tanks and attack planes, moved from protests to revolt on the grounds that if they were going to die, they might as well go down fighting.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/138 "2016-11-19T06:03:03Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Awww. This guy’s sweet. 💗

Hey, get a room, you two!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/139 "2016-11-19T12:03:04Z")

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Better, get a planet. Just not this one.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him-oooooooookayee/772057/140 "2016-11-19T14:40:47Z")

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I don’t know about Trump, but I just get the sense that the OP is a horrible person. 😉

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