# Trump is not a bad person, make an effort to like him. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 9, 2016, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149 "2016-11-09T07:13:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/61 "2016-11-09T17:26:13Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Let’s say with mass adoption of solar energy and electric vehicle, climate change issue is tackled and world (oil) trade is reduced …then their is no incentive to make wars etc. Bullshit. We had wars long before we had solar energy, horseless carriages, and trade in oil. There are plenty of other resources to fight over, not to mention ideologies. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/62 "2016-11-09T18:10:07Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Let’s say with mass adoption of solar energy and electric vehicle, climate change issue is tackled and world (oil) trade is reduced …then their is no incentive to make wars etc. , No need to build consensus on emissions etc…the role of US President becomes less important…it will again be science and technology to the rescue, not the lying and deceitful media and politicians… Of course, Trump has actively argued against any of the science that would make your utopian dream come true, so how long should we give him a chance? Can we go back to hating him the minute he puts a roadblock in front of alternative energy sources? Or do we have to wait for some other event? (And can you tell us what that would be?) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/63 "2016-11-09T18:18:50Z")
I am fairly certain that anything that the OP says or does that even remotely resembles reality, is strictly coincidental. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/64 "2016-11-09T18:26:32Z")
Trump said he would have people tortured and their families put to death. He is very much a bad person. Everyone who cheered at that, everyone who continued to support him after he said it, they’re bad people too. I feel no desire to make an effort to like him or those who support him. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/65 "2016-11-09T18:36:24Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > He may not be perfect but he is an honest and a liberal person. He doesn’t hold grudge against opponents. He has won fair and square against odds. He will now be nice to his opponents as well. > > Even though my equity holdings are down for the moment (2%, 3%, 5%…7%), I am happy. > > Please make an effort to see the positives in him and try to like him. Don’t be sad or paranoid or ego-hurt. Trump is a loathsome human being. He was being sued for tying up and raping a 13 year old girl, but she dropped the lawsuit. He is still being sued for fraud. Trump is not a good person. The best we can hope for is that the damage he inflicts is not as serious as some are worrying. That is the best case scenario. He is only a little destructive. He causes a recession and a localized war rather than a depression and a major war. Posts like yours which try to pretend Trump is a good person are not helping. That is like asking people to pretend Obama isn’t black. Also Trump is the most dishonest politician in modern history. He lies constantly. You calling him honest shows a total lack of awareness of the situation. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/66 "2016-11-09T18:53:15Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > He may not be perfect but he is an honest and a liberal person. He doesn’t hold grudge against opponents. He has won fair and square against odds. He will now be nice to his opponents as well. I’m sorry, but you might as well have told us that Trump is actually a kindly old black woman, who will bake us cookies. This would make just as much sense. Did the evidence in front of your face not have an impact? Or did you simply ignore it and substitute your own reality? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/67 "2016-11-09T18:58:00Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Let’s say with mass adoption of solar energy and electric vehicle, climate change issue is tackled and world (oil) trade is reduced …then their is no incentive to make wars etc… Trump will do the exact opposite of what you hope will come true. He has said, on record, that the scientific work on Global climate change is a hoax, created by China to destroy American businesses. He said this. Trump will destroy research into solar and alternate energy, he will encourage more burning of coal, he will tear up international agreements on climate change, he will do more damage to the planet than you can possibly imagine. Imagine you have a car that is working OK, but not the best. There is a mechanic who advertises that he hates cars, and pretty much thinks that smashing them with a hammer is the best thing for them. His previous customers all are unhappy with his work. So you take your car to him, hoping for the best. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/68 "2016-11-09T21:41:35Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > … Did the evidence in front of your face not have an impact? Or did you simply ignore it and substitute your own reality? This is apparently how Trump supporters think. No amount of CLEAR evidence and facts will change their mind. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/69 "2016-11-09T21:57:07Z")
Well, it took less than a day for Trump to let it be known that he will follow the designs of his ignorant and powerful supporters. > **[Trump Picks Top Climate Skeptic to Lead EPA Transition](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trump-picks-top-climate-skeptic-to-lead-epa-transition/?wt.mc=SA_Reddit-Share)** > > Choosing Myron Ebell means Trump plans to drastically reshape climate policies > [@](#): > > Donald Trump has selected one of the best-known climate skeptics to lead his U.S. EPA transition team, according to two sources close to the campaign. > > Myron Ebell, director of the Center for Energy and Environment at the conservative Competitive Enterprise Institute, is spearheading Trump’s transition plans for EPA, the sources said. So much for the climate change issue being tackled. This also affects smog regulations too. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/70 "2016-11-09T22:06:07Z")
Correction: Not from today, but from a few months ago, not trusting that Trump will change that idea. ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/71 "2016-11-09T23:37:27Z")
One of the things I didn’t like about Trump is the contingent of fringe type voters. I hope tho that the fringes of the alt-right turn on him FAST; [I think they could](http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/neo-nazis-publish-list-of-donald-trumps-jewish-cabal/2016/11/09/). If this happens, I will like him a lot more. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/72 "2016-11-10T00:11:50Z")
I can certainly accept that not at all Trump supporters are bad people. I can respect that at lot of Trump supporters voted for Trump because they want a change in the establishment. In fact, I can even get behind that idea. But Trump is an undeniably terrible person and it is a shame that he is the one representing this message especially since there is little chance he will deliver on it. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/73 "2016-11-10T00:38:26Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Let’s stop being coy. We’re all well acquainted with the Trump of whom the OP speaks. The intellectual, erudite to the point of bookishness. The thoughtful, measured orator. The generous philanthropist. The devoted husband. The young stallion in peak physical condition, buff, athletic, devilishly handsome and sporting a fully natural, not-at-all-weird-looking head of raven-black hair. Pics or it didn’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/74 "2016-11-10T00:47:14Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Pics or it didn’t happen. Not good enough. We had full sound and video on the _Access Hollywood_ incident and, apparently, it did not happen, either. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/75 "2016-11-10T00:51:53Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > He may not be perfect but he is an honest and a liberal person. He doesn’t hold grudge against opponents. . . . Nope; he’s a mean-spirited, vindictive toad of a man, and will take every step he can to harm people who don’t bow to his will. ---
**Author:** ![starwarsfreek42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@starwarsfreek42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/starwarsfreek42)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/76 "2016-11-10T00:53:11Z")
Yes, yes he is a bad person. He’s the worst person. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/77 "2016-11-10T02:11:36Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > My reaction is rather the opposite. I don’t think the consequences of his presidency will be as dire as many are predicting, but on a personal level he is a loathsome human being. Agreed. Donald Trump is not a good person. He’s a sexist egotistical vindictive bully & con artist who sexually assaults women & brags about it. He’s also an opportunist racist, has a history of screwing over his investors & contractors, and there’s no doubt whatsoever in my mind he’ll screw over this allies and everyone else in the country. Oh and he’s a also Putin’s most useful idiot. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/78 "2016-11-10T05:27:49Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Bullshit. > > We had wars long before we had solar energy, horseless carriages, and trade in oil. There are plenty of other resources to fight over, not to mention ideologies. Pessimistic view… as prosperity, technology and knowledge spread, there are less wars…solar power is already so cheap that it can replace dirty energy…been reading abt new Li ion battery lasting a life time…cars like model 3 n bolt coming up etc… So if we can defeat Islamic backwardness (because all other religions have reformed according to 21st century), there are reasons to expect less wars in future… ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/79 "2016-11-10T09:36:13Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > So if we can defeat Islamic backwardness (because all other religions have reformed according to 21st century), there are reasons to expect less wars in future… Ah yes, because there is no peaceful Islam anywhere currently, and there is no religiously motivated violence anywhere in the world that isn’t rooted in Islam. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/80 "2016-11-10T13:15:40Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Pessimistic view… as prosperity, technology and knowledge spread, there are less wars…solar power is already so cheap that it can replace dirty energy…been reading abt new Li ion battery lasting a life time…cars like model 3 n bolt coming up etc… > > So if we can defeat Islamic backwardness (because all other religions have reformed according to 21st century), there are reasons to expect less wars in future… Let’s even pretend for a moment that this is true, it wouldn’t change the fact that Trump as a person is utterly vile. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149.md?page=5)