# Trump is not a bad person, make an effort to like him.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 9, 2016, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149 "2016-11-09T07:13:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/81 "2016-11-13T02:09:19Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> You are an Indian, living in India. Why are you so happy?

Because from his point of view, a world where the USA is actually IN decline (as opposed the the world which the _soi-disant_ “honest” Donald Trump was so insistent is in decline), is a good thing.

He was kind of clear on that over the summer.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/82 "2016-11-13T02:12:31Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> Of course he doesn’t hold grudges. His hands are too small!
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> He pays illegal immigrant workers to hold his grudges for him.

Correction: he _hires_ them. Whether he _pays_ them is a bit of a crapshoot…

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/83 "2016-11-13T02:27:03Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> No, he’s not a good man. He is a bully, a sexist, at best a rude boor and possible someone who has committed sexual assault in the past, vindictive, a grudge-holder, and lacks diplomatic skills.
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> As we are stuck with him for the next four years I hope that despite his deep flaws he will nonetheless be an effective president and doesn’t do anything too damaging or embarrassing.
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> He might become a good president. I do not regard him as a good person. I am not obligated to like someone I find repulsive.

He probably thinks he learned everything there is to know about being POTUS from watching _Love, Actually_…

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/84 "2016-11-13T02:30:39Z")

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> [@truthSeeker2](#):
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> That’s all immaterial. Obama’s policies costed 300k+ human lives in Syria.
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> This is **ALOT**.many people may not realise. For ex. 1 czarcasm = 1 truthseeker = 1 human life. Now add this to Itself about 300k times. This is the number of people killed in syria partially due to Americas policy. Assad \>\> Obama, Hillary.

> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I’m asking you nicely; stop talking about things you’ve repeatedly shown yourself to know nothing about.

[del]Including[/del] _Especially_ English spelling and grammar.

A. Lot. Two words.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/85 "2016-11-13T04:07:27Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> …His potential downside is remarkably large.

You have a gift for understatement that borders on genius.

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**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/86 "2016-11-14T08:41:25Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> [del]Including[/del] _Especially_ English spelling and grammar.
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> A. Lot. Two words.

I know. Couldn’t edit the post in time.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/87 "2016-11-14T13:09:39Z")

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If Trump declares America as an Empire, and then starts building a large moon-shaped super-weapon, well, don’t be surprised.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Crap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.crap/32/3131_2.png) [@Dr.Crap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Crap)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/88 "2016-11-14T14:18:01Z")

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Mr. Trump, if you’re reading this in the future…I volunteer to harass these nerds with my moderator privileges as an olive branch to you following your acquisition of the Chicago Reader.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/89 "2016-11-14T16:07:51Z")

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As mentioned many times before, Personnel is Policy.

Now we know that the most important people Trump is choosing are the insider Reince Priebus (No swamp to drain here!) and Breitbart Bannon (Lets defend the confederate flag!).

4 years of Trump listening to the worst angels of his nature. It is like having the “let them eat cake” dark angel on his left shoulder and the racist and bigoted talking ideas coming from the even darkest angel on his right shoulder.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/90 "2016-11-14T19:11:24Z")

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If there was any notion that Trump would reform his act after the election, hiring Bannon pretty much puts paid to that. It was bad enough that Trump hired Bannon for his campaign, but now he’ll be in the West Wing. A guy who didn’t even want his daughter in the same classroom as Jews.

My father was Jewish. Much as I wish he were still in this world, I’m glad he didn’t live to see this day.

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**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/91 "2016-11-15T00:31:06Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> A guy who didn’t even want his daughter in the same classroom as Jews.

And it’s so bizarre, given Trump’s favorite, Ivanka’s, conversion to Judaism for her Jewish husband and prominent Trump advisor, Jared Kushner. I don’t know how these power centers co-exist in the Trump universe.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/92 "2016-11-15T05:17:02Z")

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Trump, who is a very, very bad and dishonest person, can go fuck himself.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/93 "2016-11-15T12:53:37Z")

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> [@ganthet](#):
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> And it’s so bizarre, given Trump’s favorite, Ivanka’s, conversion to Judaism for her Jewish husband and prominent Trump advisor, Jared Kushner. I don’t know how these power centers co-exist in the Trump universe.

It’s a common feature of bigots to make exceptions for individuals they personally know and like.

Anyhow, the title of this thread pisses me off. Trump IS a bad person by my ethics and moral standards. And no, I don’t have to make an effort to like him. I don’t like him and find him repulsive as a person. Even if by some miracles he does things that wind up a positive for the nation and/or the world I still have no obligation to like him as a person.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/94 "2016-11-15T13:53:17Z")

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I have personally liked people who lacked ethics and morality. I wasn’t dumb enough to trust them.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/95 "2016-11-15T17:49:20Z")

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> [@truthSeeker2](#):
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> Happy because of his views on Islamic extremism, middle-east policy, trade balance , currency manipulation, befriending India, Russia etc.
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> Not sure anymore on some of his economic policies.
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> Plus happy for him for defeating the vicious propaganda, fear-mongering and lies.

Trump doesn’t have a view on Islamic extremism; he has a view against Muslims, all Muslims. How did you miss that tidbit this Election?

Trump, the bankrupt, is the last person I would even consider taking economic advice from.

But you’re okay with Trump’s vicious propaganda, fear-mongering, and lies, along with those of his cabinet and staff appointees, right?

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/96 "2016-11-15T22:51:27Z")

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eh **truthSeeker2** duuuuuuuude…

got a little gift for ya

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19783231#post19783231](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19783231#post19783231)

just in case…I dunno…you might wanna defend yourself, or anything. (since I don’t feel comfortable dissing folks behind their backs)

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-not-a-bad-person-make-an-effort-to-like-him/771149/97 "2016-11-16T15:24:27Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> You are an Indian, living in India. Why are you so happy?

Because he’s an Indian, living in India. He doesn’t realize that legitimizing anti-Islamic bigotry isn’t going to stop with Muslims being attacked and discriminated against. Once you open that door, it eventually becomes open season on all the “others.”

**truthseeker** , Hindu and Sikh homes smell like turmeric, too, and we all pretty much look alike to many Americans.

If your concern is really for dead Syrians, fair enough. I find that rather hard to believe though, especially since there is about zero chance that Trump’s policies will result in any reduction in Syrian deaths.

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