# Trump Is The Real Victim

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 10, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942 "2020-07-10T14:41:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942/1 "2020-07-10T14:41:52Z")

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[https://www.thehour.com/news/article/Trump-the-victim-President-complains-in-private-15398859.php](https://www.thehour.com/news/article/Trump-the-victim-President-complains-in-private-15398859.php)

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> The president rants about the deadly coronavirus destroying “the greatest economy,” one he claims to have personally built. He laments the unfair “fake news” media, which he vents never gives him any credit. And he bemoans the “sick, twisted” police officers in Minneapolis, whose killing of an unarmed black man in their custody provoked the nationwide racial justice protests that have confounded the president.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942/2 "2020-07-10T14:57:12Z")

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[Republicans are ALWAYS the REAL victims! :rolleyes:](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-always-the-real-victims-rolleyes/823506)

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942/3 "2020-07-10T15:00:39Z")

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The sad thing is that if (when?) he losses, he won’t for a second believe it’s because the country rejected him and despised his incompetence and buffoonery. He will think he just had the bad luck of being a great president when a virus hit. The important thing is that we need him gone, but I would have loved a real ass kicking at a time when the economy was strong and the populace was healthy.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942/4 "2020-07-10T15:03:42Z")

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He is starting to sound like 1945 Hitler. But I cant think of a single accomplishment that Trump may crow about. His Presidency is like a terrible reality show where we are supposed to laugh at the Buffoon in Chief. Only we cant because he really is the President.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942/5 "2020-07-10T15:22:37Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> But I cant think of a single accomplishment that Trump may crow about.

Well, Wall Street was at historic highs before the evil Chie-na Flu hit. Granted, Wall Street was flourishing because he cut corporate taxes and they all took that money and invested it in Wall Street instead of infrastructure or jobs or anything, and his tax cuts caused historic highs in national deficit and debt, but…

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942/6 "2020-07-10T15:33:18Z")

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It’s like Trump is showing signs of having narcissistic personality disorder. I’m surprised we’ve never noticed this before now.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942/7 "2020-07-10T15:37:03Z")

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I’ll be honest, I am surprised that Trump hasn’t talked about ‘someone’ drawing up some Lèse-majesté laws.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942/8 "2020-07-10T15:37:33Z")

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Narcissistic personality disorder isnt sufficient to explain Trump IMO. He is overflowing with self pity and is incapable of understanding how his actions have influenced his current lack of popularity. He is lacking in the most basic intellectual skills. He should also have at least a slight understanding of the dangers of surrounding yourself with yes people.

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942/9 "2020-07-10T15:41:38Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> He is starting to sound like 1945 Hitler.

Or maybe just a five-year-old surrounded by a highly dysfunctional family.

It’s part of his personal psycho-pathology, but in fact he quickly discovered in 2016 that it is very appealing to a significant portion of the population who hold forth the entitlement of a pampered five-year-old.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942/10 "2020-07-10T15:54:20Z")

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> [@guizot](#):
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> Or maybe just a five-year-old surrounded by a highly dysfunctional family.

if only someone would write a book about that…

Oh, wait. Someone did:

> [@Trump's niece putting out a book](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692/48):
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> Did somebody say _toddler_ ?
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> ### [In New Book, Trump’s Niece Describes Him as Still a Child, Seeking Attention](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/us/politics/donald-trump-mary-book.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage)
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> The release of Mary L. Trump’s “Too Much and Never Enough” has been widely anticipated.
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> Not only is she family, but she’s also a shrink.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942/11 "2020-07-10T15:54:56Z")

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Well, he is right for once, isn’t he? I mean, the virus was made for him (pity he hasn’t cought it yet) by evil whatever the word for _hombres_ is in Tchay-Neeze, so it should in all fairness be called the Trump Virus instead of this foreign location he can’t pronounce right anyway.  
And this man that died when the police officer took a knee on his back surely did so to piss him off.  
And he nominated those judges to the Supreme Court, so he may very well feel betrayed if they interpret the law according to the books and not according to his personal interest. That is a very narrow deference indeed, I would feel shortchanged if I was him (which I luckily am not).  
And wouldn’t you feel down if Jared Kushner had set his mind on cheering you up?  
Of one thing I am sure, though: He will anounce a cure/vaccine in the third week of October. The cure/vaccine will not work, I am sorry to say, but he will hope to turn the tide just before the election. Why do I guess it will be the third week of October? Any sooner and his claim will be too easily debunked for the BS it will be. Any later and it will not be effective (“genius stroke” I guess will be his words, perhaps peppered with some “very stable” and/or “incredible”) to turn around the result on November 3rd.  
I am glad to read he takes this personally. I hope there is much more to come. Come to think of it, I cannot see how there would not be. I wish him depression, one of the sader symptoms of Alzheimer’s Disease. He has worked hard for this and he deserves it.

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**Author:** ![Mickyfinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19b73/32.png) [@Mickyfinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mickyfinn)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942/12 "2020-07-10T15:55:33Z")

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I don’t think he’ll say it’s bad luck. I’m with those who think he will claim the election was rigged and he lost because of voter fraud. He’s setting that up now. I would not be least surprised if he calls on his base (remember "my second amendment people”?) to surround the White House. Could be scary.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942/13 "2020-07-10T16:01:14Z")

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> [@Mickyfinn](#):
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> he will claim the election was rigged and he lost because of voter fraud. He’s setting that up now.

Are you kidding? He was setting it up at this time 4 years ago.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942/14 "2020-07-10T16:21:31Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> 😭  
> 🤣  
> 💩  
> 😏  
> 🤪

👍 (I’ll preemptively apologize for snipping your engaging commentary. I hope I didn’t remove too much context.)

Of course, we make fun of un-indicted co-conspirator Donald John Trump for his transparent ego-centrism. But there’re _still_ apologists who think that all these are unfortunate events and not bad outcomes. That is, they see coincidences when instead every bad thing that has happened was the consequence of poor choices.

The breadth and severity of the pandemic: completely due to administration’s crippling of the CDC before and during the pandemic.

The economic crisis: completely due to the administration overheating the part of the economy that was doing well while gutting the parts that still need help.

The social crisis: completely due to the administration abetting racists and fascists, while denigrated their victims.

The media’s critiques: completely due to the administration’s refusal of facts and the personalization of disputes with everyone. Perfect example of the converse of the golden rule: when you treat everyone like shit, that’s how you’ll get treated as well.

Anyone who thinks actions should have consequences is going to be against the president, because every single individual thing he has done as president has had a negative outcome.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942/15 "2020-07-10T16:23:51Z")

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942/16 "2020-07-10T16:37:00Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> Of one thing I am sure, though: He will anounce a cure/vaccine in the third week of October. The cure/vaccine will not work, I am sorry to say, but he will hope to turn the tide just before the election. Why do I guess it will be the third week of October? Any sooner and his claim will be too easily debunked for the BS it will be. Any later and it will not be effective (“genius stroke” I guess will be his words, perhaps peppered with some “very stable” and/or “incredible”) to turn around the result on November 3rd.

I can see him now, in a misbuttoned lab coat holding up a half-liter Erlenmeyer flask filled with green liquid and a chunk of dry ice on the bottom. “It was hard work but somehow I found the time to come up with The Cure in my sekrit laboratory. I’m charging only $100 a dose. Call now, operators are standing by!”

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942/17 "2020-07-10T17:03:38Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> I can see him now, in a misbuttoned lab coat holding up a half-liter Erlenmeyer flask filled with green liquid and a chunk of dry ice on the bottom. “It was hard work but somehow I found the time to come up with The Cure in my sekrit laboratory. I’m charging only $100 a dose. Call now, operators are standing by!”-

Only $100? No effing way! Try $2,000 per dose, minimum. Gots to pay for all that research (and golf course maintenance).

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942/18 "2020-07-10T17:16:56Z")

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Plus you don’t want _those_ people to get hold of a dose.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942/19 "2020-07-10T20:29:35Z")

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[Moderating]  
I edited a lot of the article out of the OP, which had gone a fair bit beyond “fair use.” Please remember, when referencing published materials, to limit any quoting to a small, representative sample.

No warning issued.  
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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-victim/914942/20 "2020-07-10T21:01:09Z")

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He gets something virtually guaranteed to win him re-election, fucks it the response beyond all recognition due to his own emotional and intellectual failings, and then cries because he fucked up a sure thing.

How Republican of him.

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