# Trump is the real whistleblower!
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [December 30, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591 "2019-12-30T14:57:18Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591/1 "2019-12-30T14:57:18Z")
A letter in my local paper asserts that Trump is rooting out corruption all over D.C. and concludes “Trump is the real whistleblower!”
Sounds like Faux News alternative reality to me, but what do I know? I live in a leftwing bubble. So I am genuinely inviting all the right-leaning posters here to share examples of Trump’s activities that have uncovered and thwarted corruption in our nation’s government.
One thing, though – _ **these efforts cannot be reactions to investigations of Trump or his administration** _. Any mentions of Carter Page or the Steele Dossier will be reported as threadshitting. I want genuine examples of Trump fighting corruption – not him fighting back.
Ready, set, fight my ignorance!
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### Author:  [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591/2 "2019-12-30T16:01:24Z")
Well, he did get Stephen Calk, Michael Cohen, Paul Manafort, George Nader, Rick Gates, and some others arrested for corrupt activities, and others like Elliott Broidy put under Federal investigation…
Given that those are all his friends, though, I put that down more in the side of being pro-corruption not anti. And, despite his claim to be happy and successful in office, he’s probably pretty sad that he has caused so many of his friends to go to jail, and blissfully ignoring that his idiocy is to blame for them all being there.
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### Author:  [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591/3 "2019-12-30T16:16:40Z")
I ask for genuine examples of Trump’s corruption fighting from right-leaning posters, and you come along and call Trump an idiot. As much as I agree with you, I fear your response may intimidate those right-leaning posters from their sincere efforts to fight my ignorance.
C’mon, all you Republicans and independents – I truly want to hear what I’m missing. Show me Trump the whistleblower!
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### Author:  [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2019, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591/4 "2019-12-30T17:28:15Z")
actually it’s Melania
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### Author:  [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2019, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591/5 "2019-12-30T17:42:33Z")
He is fighting corruption by sleeping. I know he makes money then too, but just a little less.
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### Author:  [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591/6 "2019-12-30T18:31:09Z")
> [@Akaj](#):
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> I ask for genuine examples of Trump’s corruption fighting from right-leaning posters, and you come along and call Trump an idiot. As much as I agree with you, I fear your response may intimidate those right-leaning posters from their sincere efforts to fight my ignorance.
I am a right-leaning poster.
I’m unaware of any anti-corruption efforts by Trump except, obviously, his hunt for Hunter.
As best I can tell, the meaning of “drain the swamp” has migrated from fighting corruption to “driving out Democrats from the government and installing party loyalists”. Seeing as that’s a return to the spoils system, it would be hard to argue that this is an anti-corruption effort in any way.
But, like you, I invite anyone to come up with something.
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### Author:  [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591/7 "2019-12-30T18:37:27Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> I am a right-leaning poster.
Sorry, my bad.
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### Author:  [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2019, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591/8 "2019-12-30T21:10:36Z")
Well, here it is, six hours later, and no one has stepped up to volunteer even one example of Trump fighting actual corruption in Washington. But it’s a holiday week, so I’m not going to jump to any conclusions yet.
Come one, Trump supporters, fight my ignorance!
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### Author:  [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2019, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591/9 "2019-12-30T21:42:49Z")
I gargle for [Trump anti-corruption](https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+anti-corruption) but dang, he seems to be otherwise focused. Sorry. Maybe OP should ask for something easy, like [squaring the circle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squaring_the_circle).
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### Author:  [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2019, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591/10 "2019-12-30T22:03:42Z")
> [@RioRico](#):
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> I gargle for [Trump anti-corruption](https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+anti-corruption) but dang, he seems to be otherwise focused. Sorry. Maybe OP should ask for something easy, like [squaring the circle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squaring_the_circle).
I thought this \*would \*be easy. I mean, if normal, everyday people are writing letters to the editor about all the corruption Trump is fighting, surely there would be two or three shining examples.
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### Author:  [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2020, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591/11 "2020-01-01T11:30:56Z")
Well, there’s the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2017, signed by Trump on May 5th, which I guess could counter Russia-based influence to some extent.
Consider that straw firmly grasped.
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### Author:  [@TheCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheCuse)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2020, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591/12 "2020-01-02T01:18:22Z")
> [@Akaj](#):
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> Well, here it is, six hours later, and no one has stepped up to volunteer even one example of Trump fighting actual corruption in Washington. But it’s a holiday week, so I’m not going to jump to any conclusions yet.
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> Come one, Trump supporters, fight my ignorance!
Maybe no one wants to play your little game.
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### Author:  [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591/13 "2020-01-02T01:54:11Z")
> [@TheCuse](#):
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> Maybe no one wants to play your little game.
Care to assign the correct name to the correct political party?
Democrat | Republican
= Unnamed Party 1 =
Hey guys, now, let’s all make sure that we understand that everyone is different, that no one is right or wrong, and that everyone is welcome, no matter who they are or where they come from. So make sure not to say anything that would upset anybody, make them feel uncomfortable being who they are, or feel “different”.
= Unnamed Party 2 =
Y’all PC fuckers need to get out of your little bubbles, accept that some people are assholes and need to be told that they’re fucked up, useless wastes of time and given a swift kick in the ass and told to get a life.
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The OP is trying to be inclusive. I lean to the right. I ain’t having that nonsense. If you can’t think of anything to support any sort of honest position, then bitch and moan all you want about being excluded from the cool kid club but ain’t no one buying it.
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### Author:  [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2020, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591/14 "2020-01-02T05:57:31Z")
> [@Akaj](#):
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> A letter in my local paper asserts that Trump is rooting out corruption all over D.C. and concludes “Trump is the real whistleblower!”
Did said letter cite any specific examples of Trumpian corruption fighting? If so, perhaps you could seed this conversation by quoting that.
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### Author:  [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2020, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591/15 "2020-01-02T10:09:15Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Care to assign the correct name to the correct political party?
>
> Democrat | Republican
>
> = Unnamed Party 1 =
> Hey guys, now, let’s all make sure that we understand that everyone is different, that no one is right or wrong, and that everyone is welcome, no matter who they are or where they come from. So make sure not to say anything that would upset anybody, make them feel uncomfortable being who they are, or feel “different”.
>
> = Unnamed Party 2 =
> Y’all PC fuckers need to get out of your little bubbles, accept that some people are assholes and need to be told that they’re fucked up, useless wastes of time and given a swift kick in the ass and told to get a life.
>
> * * *
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> The OP is trying to be inclusive. I lean to the right. I ain’t having that nonsense. If you can’t think of anything to support any sort of honest position, then bitch and moan all you want about being excluded from the cool kid club but ain’t no one buying it.
You missed the part where Unnamed Party 2 gets their panties in a twist because someone said SOME OF THEM they were fucked up.
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### Author:  [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591/16 "2020-01-02T16:15:18Z")
> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Did said letter cite any specific examples of Trumpian corruption fighting? If so, perhaps you could seed this conversation by quoting that.
No, it didn’t.
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### Author:  [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2020, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591/17 "2020-01-02T16:43:41Z")
> [@Akaj](#):
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> Sounds like Faux News alternative reality to me, but what do I know? I live in a leftwing bubble. So I am genuinely inviting all the right-leaning posters here to share examples of Trump’s activities that have uncovered and thwarted corruption in our nation’s government.
>
> One thing, though – _ **these efforts cannot be reactions to investigations of Trump or his administration** _. Any mentions of Carter Page or the Steele Dossier will be reported as threadshitting.
Channelling Trump supporters, I think quite a few of them would see firing Yates, Comey, and Strzok as what Trump meant by “cleaning out the swamp.” (I disagree, of course, and see it as further evidence of Trump’s corruption.)
I’m not sure what you mean by your bolded point. Are you saying that Trump supporters aren’t allowed to see Comey’s firing as part of Trump’s effort to address corruption? Then you aren’t listening to what their views are. Listening doesn’t mean you have to agree with their warped view of reality. But even still, a Trump supporter would probably see firing Yates as “cleaning out the swamp,” as her removal didn’t actually have to do with the Russia collusion matter.
And go ahead and report me for threadshitting if you wish. I’ll just sit here and laugh at the accusation.
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### Author:  [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591/18 "2020-01-02T17:14:25Z")
> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Channelling Trump supporters, I think quite a few of them would see firing Yates, Comey, and Strzok as what Trump meant by “cleaning out the swamp.” (I disagree, of course, and see it as further evidence of Trump’s corruption.)
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> I’m not sure what you mean by your bolded point. Are you saying that Trump supporters aren’t allowed to see Comey’s firing as part of Trump’s effort to address corruption? Then you aren’t listening to what their views are. Listening doesn’t mean you have to agree with their warped view of reality. But even still, a Trump supporter would probably see firing Yates as “cleaning out the swamp,” as her removal didn’t actually have to do with the Russia collusion matter.
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> And go ahead and report me for threadshitting if you wish. I’ll just sit here and laugh at the accusation.
No worries. 😉 I just wanted good-faith points raised, as you have – not the 1000th iteration of the claim that Barr’s DOJ documenting errors in the Mueller investigation somehow amounts to exposing corruption in DC.
But more important, I want examples of (for lack of a better term) unself-interested corruption-fighting. Trump didn’t fire Comey because Comey was corrupt; he fired him because the man wouldn’t back off investigating Trump’s associates. Yates might be a better example, and thank you for raising it, though I agree with you that it reflects worse on him than on her.
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### Author:  [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2020, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591/19 "2020-01-02T21:49:40Z")
> [@Akaj](#):
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> Trump didn’t fire Comey because Comey was corrupt; he fired him because the man wouldn’t back off investigating Trump’s associates.
Since Comey delivered the election with his “her emails” crap, this POTUS shows himself to be a real ingrate. And he steals tips from his resort staff - completely in character.
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### Author:  [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2020, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-real-whistleblower/845591/20 "2020-01-03T01:44:55Z")
Well, I suppose one could point to the firing of Maria Yovanovich because she wouldn’t go along with his desired policy.
Oh, how about the firing of Rick Perry and other corrupt cabinet ministers. Of course, they were Trump appointments so maybe shouldn’t be counted. But if you’re grasping at straws, this is what you might come up with.
Of course, in reality we all know that Trump is the most corrupt president since ??? Even Warren Harding wasn’t so much personally corrupt as blind to the corruption around him.
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