# trump jr: women who cant handle harassment should teach kindergarten

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**Created:** [October 14, 2016, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/768538 "2016-10-14T18:46:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/768538/81 "2016-10-16T08:07:23Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> What I’m against is the notion that for some guy to just randomly encounter a woman and grope her over her clothing is some kind of heinous event, worthy of outrage and a prison sentence. And if not for the presumedly horrific effect upon the person it happens to, then why such a severe overreaction and why prison time?

So can you find a single example of someone going to jail for touching a girl once through her clothing? I bet you can’t find one and anyone in jail is either a repeat offender who tried it as often as possible or did a lot worse than just touching through clothing.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/768538/82 "2016-10-16T08:26:37Z")

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No, but there’ve been questions on the board as to whether Trump should/could be arrested for sexual assault because of it as well as very strong sentiment that he should be. And the more widely these types of notions take hold, the more likely they are to become reality.

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/768538/83 "2016-10-16T08:36:27Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> No, but there’ve been questions on the board as to whether Trump should/could be arrested for sexual assault because of it as well as very strong sentiment that he should be. And the more widely these types of notions take hold, the more likely they are to become reality.

Sure, but he has multiple accusers so he’s potentially a repeat offender and IMO it’s more serious because it’s abusing a position of power. Putting Trump on trial for this (if there is enough evidence) doesn’t mean that every single person who touches a woman once through her clothing will go to jail. I think you’d be hard put to find even the most radical feminist that would argue for jail time for a single offence of this nature.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/768538/84 "2016-10-16T08:56:57Z")

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But the hew and cry has gone up for him to be arrested for sex assault from day one, before any of the others have come to light. And of course given that the election is so close, one wonders why they haven’t come forth before during the campaign. In other words, the motives of these other women are suspect.

As for whether anyone in the real world would argue for jail time for a first offense of this kind, I’ve seen it suggested/demanded over and over again on various online news sites, as well as here, when it comes to Trump at least.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/768538/85 "2016-10-16T09:03:33Z")

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so if bill cosby was running for office the first victim who ever said anything was supposed to just man up get over it ?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/768538/86 "2016-10-16T09:18:10Z")

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Discussed pretty thoroughly in this thread: [Shouldn’t Trump be Arrested?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=806697)

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**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/768538/87 "2016-10-16T09:22:16Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> It was a left handed compliment.
> 
> What do you respect about Trump?
> 
> “Well, (nothing about him but) his kids are okay…”

It was actually the perfect response. She “answered” the question while looking human and compassionate, while completely bypassing complimenting Trump or giving any soundbite that could run in the papers the next day.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/768538/88 "2016-10-16T09:29:00Z")

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> [@Cyberhwk](#):
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> It was actually the perfect response. She “answered” the question while looking human and compassionate, while completely bypassing complimenting Trump or giving any soundbite that could run in the papers the next day.

I think a lot of people forget that the Clintons and the Trumps used to be quite chummy and that Ivanka a Chelsea are friends (or at least they used to be).

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/768538/89 "2016-10-16T10:06:04Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> As for whether anyone in the real world would argue for jail time for a first offense of this kind, I’ve seen it suggested/demanded over and over again on various online news sites, as well as here, when it comes to Trump at least.

You’re still not getting why Trump’s case is different. 1) abuse of power to intimidate women into silence 2) repeat offender.

I don’t think anyone ever thought Trump has only groped one girl one time in his entire life, his own statements made clear what he felt he could get away with:  
“Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.” “Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.”

Now you see the difference?

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/768538/90 "2016-10-16T10:47:03Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> What I’m against is the notion that for some guy to just randomly encounter a woman and grope her over her clothing is some kind of heinous event, worthy of outrage and a prison sentence…

Does under the skirt but with the crotch of panties intruding between his short fingers and her p\*\*\*y count as “over her clothing”? That’s what Trump did to a stranger on an airplane.

IANAL and won’t comment on “prison sentence” but surely this should spark “outrage.” I wouldn’t want such a blatant asshole washing my windows, but you’re happy to contemplate him as POTUS? :eek:

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/768538/91 "2016-10-16T10:57:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Donald J. Trump, Jr.]  
You can’t be negotiating billion-dollar deals if you can’t handle, like, you know… But listen — there’s a place where you have to draw the line — but today the stuff you get in trouble for…  
[/QUOTE]

I’m not sure exactly what level of sexual assault is allowed under the compass of “like, you know”(\*) — beyond forcible tongue kissing and lewd remarks — but at least Junior will “draw the line” somewhere. I guess if he discovers the stranger he’s groping isn’t wearing panties, he’ll beat a hasty retreat and apologize?

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  - In Trump’s universe is there a middle ground between “kindergarten teacher” and “negotiating billion-dollar deals”? Since the woman he assaulted was flying first-class was it legitimate to assume she was negotiating billion-dollar deals and therefore available for forcible finger fucking?

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**Author:** ![dasilva94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@dasilva94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasilva94)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/768538/92 "2016-10-16T11:02:11Z")

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I don’t know about Trump Sr.  
But his son looks like the embodyment of Patrick Bateman from American Psycho.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/768538/93 "2016-10-16T12:29:25Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Quoth **Ulfreida** :
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> …“Canadian writer Kelly Oxford went online to describe her first sexual assault - out of five - and to call on women to recount theirs under the hashtag #NotOkay. She received almost 10 million short pained narratives in just 14 hours, or roughly 50 every minute.”

To put this into further perspective: 10 million women is 3% of the population of America. It’s 6% of the female population of America. And how many people follow Kelly Oxford online? I’d never heard of her before this, and I have a hard time imagining that her number of followers is a significant fraction of the population. For her to get that many responses that quickly pretty much means not only that a significant fraction of her female followers have had this happen to them, but that each of them has had many friends to whom it’s also happened and to whom they forwarded the article. This isn’t something rare, from a woman’s point of view; it’s something that very nearly all women have dealt with.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/768538/94 "2016-10-16T14:29:50Z")

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> [@dasilva94](#):
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> I don’t know about Trump Sr.  
> But his son looks like the embodyment of Patrick Bateman from American Psycho.

Is he Uday or Qusay? (with a nod to Bill Maher for that one.)

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/768538/95 "2016-10-16T15:35:22Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> You’re still not getting why Trump’s case is different. 1) abuse of power to intimidate women into silence 2) repeat offender.
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> I don’t think anyone ever thought Trump has only groped one girl one time in his entire life, his own statements made clear what he felt he could get away with:  
> “Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.” “Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.”

His hands are so small, those women probably didn’t feel anything anyway.

:d&r:

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/768538/96 "2016-10-16T15:58:38Z")

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I guarantee you that the people who are downplaying Trump’s assaults are the same sort of folk who would take the law into their own hands if anyone tried it with their daughters, wives, or sisters. Maybe that’s what they’re really arguing here – liberals are just a bunch of whiny pussies who lack violent tendencies like good Americans.

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/768538/97 "2016-10-16T16:07:53Z")

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I was telling my wife how I kind of agree with Trump Jr. If we really want to stop sexual harassment, we need to be catching kids **young** , teaching them as young as 5 that it’s not okay to put their hands on other people’s bodies without permission. Hardcore kindergarten teachers are where it’s at. It’s too late for assholes like Trump Jr., but good early education may be the key to effective reduction in sexual harassment.

My wife corrected me. Here’s the full quote in response to a comment about harassment:

> [@Trump Jr.](#):
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> I’m sure I’ll get myself in trouble one of these days…If you can’t handle some of the basic stuff that’s become a problem in the workforce today, you don’t belong in the workforce. Like, you should go maybe teach kindergarten. I think it’s a respectable position.

Turns out that he doesn’t even think kindergarten teachers are part of the workforce. Huh.

I still kind of agree with him. If you can’t handle some of the basic stuff that’s become a problem in the workforce today, you DON’T belong in the workforce. That is, if you can’t handle the fact that sexual harassment is a no-no, your ass should be fired.

The less said about **Starving Artist’s** appalling simultaneous defense of sexual assailants and pining for a mythological past the better.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/768538/98 "2016-10-17T01:23:06Z")

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There is a lot to unpack here, but thank you for respondng.

> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> I’ll address my remarks to **raventhief** and **Typo Negative** both, since both of their posts basically relate to the same subject.
> 
> With regard to why I’d think **Typo’s** behavior worse, there are several significant differences between what he described and the behavior I’ve been talking about, which is someone putting their hand on a woman’s breasts or crotch over their clothes. First of all, for **Typo** to grab me by the crotch would entail his grabbing a handful of things that may cause physical pain, or would almost certainly cause pain were I to try to wrench myself free. Secondly, in order to put his tongue down my throat (and has Trump said he does this? I haven’t heard about it if so), **Typo** would have to grab me by the shoulders or in a bear hug while at the same time grabbing me in a moment of surprise in order to catch me with my mouth open. And like some of you suspect, some of the disgust would be due to his being a big, burly man. I have no problem with homosexuality and have several friends who are gay, including a couple of great guys who’ve been a couple for many years. But I’m not gay myself and the idea of someone like Typo Negative sticking his tongue down my throat is particularly unpleasant. Much moreso in fact than the crotch grab, where pain or injury would be my primary concern. So it’s this grabbing me and taking physical control of my body in such a way as to prevent escape and forcing his tongue down my throat that to me makes the difference between what is simple assault, such as placing one’s hands on a woman’s private parts over her clothes, and behavior that crosses the line into criminal behavior that should rightfully draw a more severe penalty, something more along the lines of what someone would get were he to assault someone with his fists.

Ok. First of all, Oprah has the same handful of the same stuff, yet it wouldn’t even occur to you that a crime has been committed? So it’s not the handful of genitalia that makes it more threatening if it’s a guy. Additionally, We may not have the same dangly bits, but a rough grab of genitalia can still be painful for a woman. Or roughly grabbing breast tissue. Second, most sexual harassers aren’t going for chaste, close-mouthed pecks. I have literally been licked by a guy trying to get his tongue in there. So assume that Oprah is doing the same thing Typo is is, in order to jam her tongue down your throat. Still not a crime? Or no, because a woman isn’t as physically threatening as a guy doing it? When a man assaults a woman in this manner it would be moure like Typo assaulting you, if for no other reason than the man is more physically dominating and stronger than the woman. All the disgust you feel at being assaulted by a less-cuddly Mr Clean is the same disgust and visceral horror that I would experience being assaulted in the same way Trump, Jr or Sr.

> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> But all of this is really somewhat beside the point. What I’m contesting is the notion that putting one’s hands on a woman’s crotch or on her breasts over her clothes is some horrible, outrageous event worthy of traumatization on her part and prison time on the offender’s part. Men and women both encounter things in life that are threatening and unpleasant. With women it’s sometimes unwanted sexual attention, being groped, etc. With men, it’s physical aggression, bullying, being challenged to fight, hit with fists, etc. Hell, I had some young dipshit try to pick a fight with me a couple of months ago when I pulled into a 7-11 to get some gas. I hadn’t even noticed him but he pulled up wanting to know what my problem was and why I looked at him “hard”. He threatened to get out of his car, kick my ass and put me on the ground. I assured him that I’d been on the ground before but his kicking my ass was not a foregone conclusion. I could tell he was mostly showboating for his poor young wife/girlfriend who was holding their baby in her lap, trying to feed it and pleading with him to stop, and that he didn’t really want to fight. I could tell this by the fact he kept making threatening motions to unbuckle his seatbelt but never quite going all the way. So I pointed out to him that there were undoubtedly cameras all around and asked if he wanted to go to jail, and I told him that whether he kicked my ass or I kicked his, I’d still press to have his ass put in jail for as long as possible and then would sue for damages and most likely be living in his wallet for years to come. At at various times during all this he kept threatening to kick my ass and making threatening noises with the buckle of his seat belt, and finally I just looked at his terrified young wife/girlfriend, turned my back and walked away into the store to pay for my gas, and at some point while I was walking away they left because his car was nowhere to be seen by the time I got inside and to the cashier to pay for my gas.
> 
> Now, I’m 68 years old and this guy was probably 22 or so, slender and a good four or five inches taller than me (I’m 5’10"). But I could tell his heart wasn’t really in it, that in the event a fight should break out other customers and probably some of the cashiers would rush to break it up (I’m a regular and buddies with the guys who work there) and I know a few tricks that would probably have had him on the ground screaming in pain in pretty short order, although maybe not depending on whether he was a better fighter than I had him pegged as.
> 
> But the point in going into all this is to show that we all have stuff come up that we have to deal with, and the best way to deal with it is to do the best we can at the time, take the hit if need be - because that’s what grown-ups do - and get on with our lives without letting it convince us of our own helplessness and victimhood. As for me, I know that stuff like that happens sometimes and I got on with my life, never once bemoaning my fate or feeling I’d been done a great injustice or victimized. And as a result I’ve scarcely given that guy a thought since.

You knew the area was being videotaped, and you know the guys who worked there? This allowed you an increased sense of security, right? How many corporate offices and conference rooms do you believe have security cameras all the time, and what if “the guy who works there “ - the one you know- is the one threatening you? And when this threat of violence arose for you, you were confident that should physical contact be made, you would be absolutely in the right to press charges. Yet you are very much acting as if physical contact when the intent is sexual and the victim is a woman should NOT be prosecuted. She should “take the hit - because that’s what grownups do.” Except a revolting amount of abuse seems to happen not to grownups but damn near children. My daughter is in her early 20s, and while I am pretty confident she can take the hit and give back more pain, it remains a fear of mine that something will happen, and she may well freeze up and “let it happen.” Why? Because women are conditioned to be “nice.”

> [@](#):
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> But to get back to what we were talking about earlier, girls in the 50s and 60s knew what to expect from the guys they went out with. Their moms prepared them in advance and told them how to deal with it, and the way guys acted on dates was a common thread with all their girlfriends. And girls rarely went out with guys they hadn’t already gotten a pretty good read on as to whether he was likely to be a jerk who wouldn’t take no for an answer or not. But the thing is, if they got groped or treated badly by some guy, they put it down to his being a jerk and didn’t let it affect the way they felt about themselves. They stopped seeing the guy, told their friends what an asshole he was, and got on with their lives hardly giving the experience a thought.

And sometimes, they were raped. “Good reads” can be wrong. Some women were damaged by that system. And one of the things that has made me so angry recently was a conservative man who told a reporter “One guy’s sexual assault is another man’s flirtation.” Defining it from his point of view - you’ll notice that how the woman feels about the action is so irrelevant as to ahve been discarded completely. A woman’s body is not some foreign land to invade as far as you can before being rebuffed. There are many reasons why a woman may be unable to resist the onslaught of the hands and lips and tongue - yet, it doesn’t matter, as long as “she lets you do it.” That’s a generic you, by the way, not you you.

> [@](#):
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> And contrary to current opinion, guys could not just do anything wanted to women in those days and get away with it. I recall once when I was about 14 visiting a buddy who had a pretty good-looking big sister who was about 17. My friend and I and another friend of his who was about 15 were sitting at the kitchenette when my buddy’s sister walked by in a tight pair of pedal-pushers (as they were called then) and this other guy reached out and patted her rump and she walked by. She whirled around and slapped him in the face so hard it almost knocked him out of his chair an yelled, “DO NOT EVER TOUCH A GIRL ON THE BOTTOM LIKE THAT AGAIN! EVER! DO YOU HEAR ME??” And naturally, me being me, I couldn’t understand what the big deal was (:p) so when the incident came up to my friend’s mom I asked her about it and she said that you just don’t touch girls or women on the bottom (that’s how people talked then). It’s disrespectful and you should never do it. (Given my age she left off the sexual connotations so I still didn’t get it, but the next couple of years took care of that bit of ignorance.) But the point is that during this same era, women and girls set boundaries and enforced them, and they were a hell of a lot better off than now where any and every affront is a source of outrage and victimhood.

It’s bizarre to me that you have no problem with this display of bodily autonomy, but find today’s standards of affirmative consent to be so puzzling. I guess it comes back to “letting” a guy do something. Iff he doesn’t get smacked, then it’s allowed.

> [@](#):
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> I remember years ago hearing about how liberals were working to create a society of victimhood, and that’s exactly where we are now. If someone says the wrong word or does the wrong thing (in this case, a hand on a crotch) it’s “OMG, THE WORST THING EVAR!!!” and the recipient is trained by societal expectation to be traumatized by the experience, to feel victimized and helpless and negatively affected for life, and the offender is widely believed to be deserving to lose a career he’s spent perhaps decades striving and sacrificing for and/or go to jail for what in reality and according to any kind of objective assessment is a relatively minor offense.
> 
> It does not do people favors to convince them through your own reactions and attitudes to their misfortunes that they have been irrevocably wronged and traumatized by some unfortunate thing that has happened to them and that they’ve permanently damaged. It’s much better for people to be brought up to learn how to deal with adversity and then put it behind them without taking it personally.

You seem very much concerned with the financial end of the situation for a man guilty of assault. You don’t seem too concerned about the woman who may lose her job if she doesn’t play along with what her boss demands. Does she deserve to lose everything she is worked for if she doesn’t want to date her boss? I don’t believe that a woman is irrevocably wronged and traumatized if she is assaulted, but she deserves to be respected and this manner of sexual harassment and assault is profoundly disrespectful, and sometimes can be quite damaging. No one is claiming it’s always permanent damage, but why are you arguing for the right for even temporary damage to be inflicted?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/768538/99 "2016-10-17T01:47:58Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> It was a left handed compliment.
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> What do you respect about Trump?
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> “Well, (nothing about him but) his kids are okay…”

> [@Cyberhwk](#):
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> It was actually the perfect response. She “answered” the question while looking human and compassionate, while completely bypassing complimenting Trump or giving any soundbite that could run in the papers the next day.

It was all right, but actually, the _perfect_ response was the one the SNL writers came up with six days later…

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/768538/100 "2016-10-17T02:05:09Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I guarantee you that the people who are downplaying Trump’s assaults are the same sort of folk who would take the law into their own hands if anyone tried it with their daughters, wives, or sisters. Maybe that’s what they’re really arguing here – liberals are just a bunch of whiny pussies who lack violent tendencies like good Americans.

Also, women worth protecting have a man ready and able to do so informallly. Bring the kind of woman men are moved to protect is a primary responsibility. If a woman has no man willing to do that, it’s inherently evidence that it doesn’t need to be done.

Once again, the free market does a better job than the government at allocating scarce resources.

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