# Trump lies he’s the Devil, Biden lies , it oh that’s just old Joe **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 20, 2020, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404 "2020-10-20T12:01:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/21 "2020-10-20T14:31:10Z")
It’s fascinating to watch a lie grow in Trump’s head in real time. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/22 "2020-10-20T14:34:24Z")
Being a father, it’s not. Seen it before. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/23 "2020-10-20T14:36:26Z")
_…Yeah, that’s the ticket._ ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/24 "2020-10-20T14:44:20Z")
I’m gonna say **running\_coach** got it in one. The OP is an idiot, and now on “Ignore.” ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/25 "2020-10-20T14:47:03Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > Not a lick of difference between them, just how it’s handled. Now I know how this is going to go. You’re stupid, and you should be embarrassed to wave it around. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/26 "2020-10-20T15:02:22Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > The OP is a perfect example of how the majority of Trump supporters think. “If I can find one example of something bad the other side has done, that excuses everything my guys have done.” Thanks for the lesson in idiocy… It’s pretty much how Russian interference works as well. Get some useful idiots to parrot this line. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/27 "2020-10-20T15:11:03Z")
You lot clearly don’t understand the sheer genius that is Trump. 😨 He doesn’t lie - he uses ‘alternative facts’. He doesn’t lie - he was just joking. He doesn’t lie - the fake media made it up. He doesn’t lie - err, prove it… ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/28 "2020-10-20T15:11:50Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Pretty much all politicians say stuff that’s only true if you look at it from a certain specific angle and squint a little bit. No need to be squeamish about it - all politicians lie, period. On the other hand, Trump has kicked it up to 11. He’s set a new standard for making stuff up. Biden’s going to have a hell of a time trying to match him. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/29 "2020-10-20T15:13:12Z")
> [@solost](#): > > He’ll tell a lie that contradicts a lie he recently told, and he doesn’t care. Hell, he tells a lie at the end of a sentence that contradicts the lie he told at the beginning. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/30 "2020-10-20T15:17:23Z")
This is a reverse pitting now? Good. Check out this exchange. > [@What's the worst thing Antifa has ever done?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/120): > > He said on VICE that he shot he guy in Portland, that’s why There was a warrant out for his arrest. He said he was Antifa All the Way… > [@What's the worst thing Antifa has ever done?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/121): > > So, what you’re saying is, anyone who claims to be Antifa is incapable of anything but murder? Even whey they say they were “totally justified [that] had I not acted I am confident that my friend, and I’m sure I, would have been killed”? > [@What's the worst thing Antifa has ever done?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/122): > > He admitted that he shot the guy on VICE. The unsealed Warrant has timed stamped videos that he STALKED the guy and shot him. That’s why the US Marshals were going to arrest him. There was no self defense. Of course, we now know that Trump bragged about ordering those Marshals to _kill_ him. I guess, according to Trump and his MAG-hatted minions, “Antifa” isn’t just only incapable of anything but murder but also deserves no due process. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/31 "2020-10-20T16:46:13Z")
Hey, OP. [Here’s a list](https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/) of more than 20,000 false statements made by Trump. Let’s see your Biden list. What, you got nothing? Are you orange too? That’s what happens when you are completely full of shit. It comes out through your pores. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/32 "2020-10-20T16:55:37Z")
Reproaching tanTrump the lies he tells is so unfair! I mean, it’s his only [superpower](https://schumanchu.eu/html/l/l_00089superpower.html)! ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/33 "2020-10-20T16:59:45Z")
This ^ “_Yo! I’m just here to, like, say, one’s, like, a giant douche, and the other’s, like, a total shit sandwich. And I’m, like, so original. And shit._” ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/34 "2020-10-20T17:08:12Z")
Title intrigued me (I didn’t actually understand it), thought this thread might be interesting. Wrong! Outta here. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/35 "2020-10-20T17:11:35Z")
Care to put up or shut up with some numbers? Show the number of times Biden has lied vs. Trump? Show what they have lied about are equal in importance? Can you bring some substance to this thread? Or just admit you’re a bored troll and not a right-winger at all. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/36 "2020-10-20T17:39:23Z")
I am generally of the opinion that “both sides do it” but even I have to agree that Trump is well beyond that. So far beyond, in fact, that I hope every Republican who has excused his behavior–even moderates (I’m looking at you, Susan Collins)–gets hammered in the upcoming election. I want scorched earth. I want this to be a lesson to any party that dares to hand the reigns to such an ignoramus. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/37 "2020-10-20T17:54:57Z")
“Reins” I think this is one of the reasons why there’s a dearth of conservatives or Republicans or whatever on this board. They’ve really gone off the deep end. It’s not so much that the SDMB is a monoculture, it’s just that we continue to stress facts and cites. There are several people off the top of my head that are still here and used to be considered on the right side of the spectrum. However, the Overton window blew right by them and now they are part of this “monoculture.” We still have interesting debates about economic policy, abortion, religious freedom, you name it. But, there’s basically no defending Trump or today’s Republicans, so it will seem like a pile-on whenever politics is involved. ---
**Author:** ![Acierocolotl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acierocolotl/32/6241_2.png) [@Acierocolotl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acierocolotl)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/38 "2020-10-20T17:55:21Z")
I came in here when I saw the title. Did Trump claim that he was the devil, and then lied? Because I was hoping this would segue back to that “Trump is the antichrist” thread and I was preparing a big ol’ tub of popcorn. You _seriously_ can not imagine my disappointment right now. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/39 "2020-10-20T18:10:01Z")
Orange really is just light brown. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/40 "2020-10-20T18:25:41Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Or just admit you’re a bored troll and not a right-winger at all. We’ve seen @eenerms stick around and make (badly flawed, misinformed and/or delusional) arguments before, but this time he really does just seem to be trolling – throw out an obviously idiotic statement in the OP and then disappear while we debunk it to death. Whaddaya say, OP? Make your case or wear the troll hat. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404.md?page=3)