# Trump lies he’s the Devil, Biden lies , it oh that’s just old Joe **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 20, 2020, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404 "2020-10-20T12:01:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/101 "2020-10-22T02:08:58Z")
Many agree! ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/102 "2020-10-22T02:09:47Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > Said he had nothing to do with Hunters dealings, Hunter had an interview with MSM admitting to it. Let’s hear more about this. Flesh this out, as I think they say, if you will. An interview with MSM. What channel is that? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/103 "2020-10-22T02:13:43Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > Biden said he wouldn’t band fracking …not Let’s take this one – he hasn’t banned fracking. Are you lying? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/104 "2020-10-22T02:18:54Z")
Fracking hasn’t been banned. But you know what’s bad for fracking? Low oil prices. Guns haven’t been banned either, but you know that. Wow, got the _Boilermakers_ endorsement wrong. Holy. Shit. Mandela. Granted. Biden, Delaware U. Debunked as a lie by the Right by the very school itself: > **[No, Joe Biden did not say he attended Delaware State University](https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/politics/2020/09/29/no-joe-biden-did-not-say-he-attended-delaware-state-university/3574205001/)** > > Conservative media outlets have taken Biden's comments — and DSU's response — out of context, a university spokesman said. Ukranian prosecutor: We already know that is bullshit, why bring it up again? Senator Byrd’s funeral. Not a lie, but nothing wrong with praising a professional colleague. Look, when my father died, some people (who should have been there, given their importance in his life) hated my stepmother so much that they boycotted his funeral… and they were all diminished for it. And Biden would’ve been diminished by doing as you suggested by boycotting his colleagues funeral. And had he done so, this list would merely contain ‘boycotted his colleagues funeral’, so, whatevs. … yawn. Got any more, little man? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/105 "2020-10-22T02:19:31Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > Biden said he had the Boilermakers union of Penn endorsement Not > Biden said he wouldn’t band fracking …not > Biden said he marched with the civil rights movement not > Said he would not take your guns away not > said he was arrested trying to see Nelson Mandela not > Said he was the went to a HBC college Delaware State U. Not > Said he had nothing to do with Ukraine prosecutor being fireD… video says yes about it…not. > Spoke at Sen Bryd funeral And praisiedvhim. > > Said he had nothing to do with Hunters dealings, Hunter had an interview with MSM admitting to it. > > Need I go on…go cannibalize your selves. The Washington Post has tracked every one of Trump’s lies. Over 20,000 and counting. No one ever said Biden never lies or misstates. That’s par for the course for politicians. However, there’s no equivalent between Trump and Biden when it comes to the constant flow of lies, exaggerations and made-up-on-the-spot bullshit that flows from Trump’s upper anus. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/106 "2020-10-22T03:29:33Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > Need I go on… No, you need to shut the fuck up if all you’ve got is regurgitated bullshit that has been debunked many times over. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/107 "2020-10-22T04:31:18Z")
Yeah, 24 hours, comes back with 9 points, half of which are flat wrong and/or based on an assumptions of unprovable and uninforceable future action. No mention either of the dozens of people who asked honestly if the _quantity_ of lies was comparable. So yeah, while he is a pathetic fool, his ‘charming’ and ‘cannibal’ comments point to an effort to ‘own the libs’ not any attempt at intelligent discourse or discussion on the merits of truth for _BOTH_ candidates. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/108 "2020-10-22T05:02:00Z")
Oh heck I’ll pile on too (not that such a thing was unwarranted/not fun) - Coming across the OP title I was thinking, ok, this, must, be… **nightshadea**?.. **suntanlotion2**?..and then I see who it is and I’m like - oh, silly me - of course, who else other than this exasperating clunkhead, who at least finally got the frick back here again, albeit with an attempt that could be described as ‘ass’. It’s possible, **eenerms** , we’re kinda masticating on ya, not cannibalizing. Fun! 🙂 ETA: to be fair to **nightshadea** , it’s only a grammar/typo concern. Heh, the others… ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/109 "2020-10-22T05:40:39Z")
Now, now…you’re forgetting **azgem** ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/110 "2020-10-22T08:01:57Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > Yeah, 24 hours, comes back with 9 points, half of which are flat wrong and/or based on an assumptions of unprovable and uninforceable future action. It’s like **Clothahump** is back. The fact that the OP had to _make up lies_ to pad out that list is hilarious. Or perhaps it’s all just part of his “the Left excuses its own lies” narrative. “Biden claimed he could fly!” “No he didn’t.” “See how you defend him?” ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/111 "2020-10-22T10:36:28Z")
What motivated you to abandon your self-respect & integrity, in order to post this drivel? ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/112 "2020-10-22T10:47:10Z")
Wow, this isn’t going well for you. You got one out of your list correct. I guess you’ll correct it? ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/113 "2020-10-22T12:06:34Z")
Charming…you asked I answered. About the guns look on his web site. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/114 "2020-10-22T12:16:58Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > Charming…you asked I answered. About the guns look on his web site. - Wow, that’s specific. What part do you object to? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/115 "2020-10-22T12:25:22Z")
So far, the current count is that you have told more lies in this thread than you have cited of Biden. Not going well for making your point. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/116 "2020-10-22T12:32:36Z")
I looked on his website and there’s a comprehensive section about guns. He does advocate restrictions on assault weapons or assault rifles or something, but does not advocate taking away your guns. So, either you’re lying or deluded. In any case, he certainly hasn’t already taken away anyone’s guns, so your statement fails immediately. However, even accounting for the passage of time (you seem to have trouble differentiating between something that might happen in the future and something that has already happened), he does not advocate taking away anyone’s guns. So, care to back up your claim with a cite? Where’s the section of his website, where’s the quote, where he plans on taking away your guns? Put up or admit to being confused or lying. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/117 "2020-10-22T12:37:01Z")
The concept of politicians lying is as old as the concept of politicians. Because politicians are essentially salesmen, and the concept of salesmen lying is as old as the concept of salesman. But, politicians, salesmen, lawyers, they lie, but they are not utterly divorced from the concept of truth, the concept of reality. Trump is. The very first act of his administration was to lie about the number of attendees to his inauguration. Something easily discernable from photographic evidence. Not lying about how important it is, or why it happened, but whether or not it happened. Lying about stone cold, indisputable fact, about something that happened that very day. Not to advance a political position, but to salve the fragile ego of the President. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/118 "2020-10-22T12:42:23Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > The very first act of his administration was to lie about the number of attendees to his inauguration. Disagree. The first lie of this administration was when $45 said, “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/119 "2020-10-22T12:43:05Z")
If it makes you all warm and fuzzy to call me names and try to bully me. Fine. Ya’ll made my point that St.Joe gets a Pass. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/120 "2020-10-22T12:44:07Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > If it makes you all warm and fuzzy to call me names and try to bully me. Fine. Ya’ll made my point that St.Joe gets a Pass. - Can’t really come up with anything, can you? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404.md?page=7)