# Trump lies he’s the Devil, Biden lies , it oh that’s just old Joe **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 20, 2020, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404 "2020-10-20T12:01:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/121 "2020-10-22T12:46:28Z")
No, we just asked you to back up your assertions. It’s not our fault you came back with lies. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/122 "2020-10-22T12:49:16Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > St.Joe gets a Pass. Joe is a salesman lying when he says the speakers you’re buying are “the best” when they’re really just regular speakers. Trump is a salesman lying when he says the speakers you’re buying are “the best” when they’re really just bricks hidden in speaker cartons. Both liars, but not the same. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/123 "2020-10-22T13:01:33Z")
I’m sorry. But there is nothing we can do to heal the wound in your heart, this fear that, maybe, you’ve allowed yourself to be had. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/124 "2020-10-22T13:37:10Z")
Man, you’re as divorced from reality as the president is. You should really get that checked out. Why don’t you back up your claims about guns, since you mentioned it twice. Or, admit that your news sources suck and lie to you frequently. If I were as misled about this as you seem to be, I would definitely consider getting better news sources at the very least. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/125 "2020-10-22T13:41:07Z")
That is a logical fallacy. People are making fun of you for using a false equivalency. To claim bullying after starting a thread you knew was going to go against you is really a lot like trolling. I’m going to bump this up to the mod loop. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/126 "2020-10-22T13:42:09Z")
I thought everyone was making fun of him because he’s an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/127 "2020-10-22T13:49:39Z")
This thread is like a C- student from a high school debate team going up against the British Parliament. ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/128 "2020-10-22T13:57:33Z")
Please do. I tried to pull it because I knew what was going to happen. There is no reasoning with either side. Thanks for doing me a favor. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/129 "2020-10-22T13:59:28Z")
Dude, I literally agreed that one of your statements was factually correct. I agreed with you, and you’re still acting this way? What ever happened to the ideal of the rugged individual, able to meet all challenges, of traditional conservative masculinity? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/130 "2020-10-22T14:02:50Z")
Anyway, for the audience reading, the OP started with the flimsiest of premises, couldn’t sustain it, and fled his own thread, asking it to be locked behind him, whining the entire time. Modern conservatism in a nutshell. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/131 "2020-10-22T14:05:11Z")
Y’know, Nermie - trolling _is_ free. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/132 "2020-10-22T14:14:19Z")
My bad on previous post. (probably shouldn’t discourage folks from financially helping this site out) ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/133 "2020-10-22T15:35:35Z")
I am tired of this is all. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/134 "2020-10-22T15:36:33Z")
So are we. So very tired of the idiocy. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/135 "2020-10-22T15:44:58Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > I am tired of this is all. Don’t start what you can’t finish. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/136 "2020-10-22T15:45:04Z")
Exactly. You made a bad choice and have to constantly defend your selection. Having had to dealt with emotionally deranged people, I understand how you feel. But you don’t have to allow Trump to do this to you! That’s the thing - he’s the one abusing you with lies, not us. You can just decide ‘fuck this guy, I’m done with this abuse’. Or you can blame us. Your choice. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/137 "2020-10-22T15:46:14Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > Please do. I tried to pull it because I knew what was going to happen. There is no reasoning with either side. Thanks for doing me a favor. You haven’t actually _tried_ reasoning. You made a questionable assertion, backed it up with several lies and vague claims you declined to substantiate, and then claimed victory. All that wins you is a prize for pigeon chess. If you’re tired of it, stop doing it. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/138 "2020-10-22T15:46:17Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > I am tired of this is all. That’s because you’re weak. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/139 "2020-10-22T15:47:45Z")
I’m just some mook who wandered into the thread, but in my considered opinion you ( **eenerms** ) are really terrible at formulating and supporting an argument. The many typos don’t exactly help either. Maybe you should leave the pro-Trump cheerleading to someone more capable. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404/140 "2020-10-22T15:49:08Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > I’m just some mook who wandered into the thread, but in my considered opinion you (eenerms) are really terrible at formulating and supporting argument. Maybe you should leave the pro-Trump cheerleading to someone more capable. He would, but pretty much everyone who supports Trump is this inept. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-lies-he-s-the-devil-biden-lies-it-oh-that-s-just-old-joe/923404.md?page=8)