# Trump Magically Turns NFL Games Into Anti-Trump Rallies **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 24, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216 "2017-09-24T20:34:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/1 "2017-09-24T20:34:51Z")
Trump called for teams to fire players who kneel during the playing of the national anthem and the players and owners (so far) told him to shove it. The act of attending or watching an NFL game is now an anti-Trump statement. \*\*BREAKING: ONE MILLION ATTEND ANTI-TRUMP RALLIES IN NFL STADIUMS SUNDAY. SIMILAR RALLIES SCHEDULED WEEKLY THROUGH FEBRUARY. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/2 "2017-09-24T21:08:32Z")
More of a rant than anything else. Moving from Elections to the Pit. [/moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/3 "2017-09-24T21:15:49Z")
> [@ThisIsTheEnd](#): > > The act of attending or watching an NFL game is now an anti-Trump statement. Aye, and I guarantee that more people like football waaaaaaay more than the number of people who’ll stand firm with Trump on this want to stand firm on this. Trump picked a fight that he can’t win. I mean, wait until it get’s characterized as “Trump is trying to destroy the NFL and football”; how do you think that will play in flyover country? ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/4 "2017-09-24T21:16:53Z")
Even Bob Kraft (who notoriously wrote a personal letter to Trump voicing support during the campaign) has slammed Trump’s remarks. ---
**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/5 "2017-09-24T21:27:26Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > More of a rant than anything else. > > Moving from Elections to the Pit. > > [/moderating] Lol. rant verb 1. speak or shout at length in a wild, impassioned way. prop·o·si·tion noun 1. a statement or assertion that expresses a judgment or opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/6 "2017-09-24T21:30:01Z")
I found this in a side blurb while looking at football scores (my Bucs lost), so I’m not sure how to link to it, but I’ll try: > **[NFL Scores, 2024 Season - ESPN](https://www.espn.com/nfl/scoreboard)** > > Live scores for every 2024 NFL season game on ESPN. Includes box scores, video highlights, play breakdowns and updated odds. No guarantee it’ll show up, tho so here it is: From Mike Rodak, ESPN Staff Writer: > [@](#): > > Asked what led to him kneeling during national anthem Sunday, Bills RB LeSean McCoy said, “Well, the flag, the national anthem means a lot to me, to my teammates. We had a long meeting Saturday night and I was very bothered by the comments of our president, of this country. As a president, you’re supposed to lead and you’re supposed to bring us together. You’re supposed to lead this country. I can’t stand and support something where our leader of this country is just acting like a jerk. Angry and upset about NFL players protesting in a peaceful manner. I won’t go to different areas and subjects but in this country, a lot of different things are going on. People protesting in a violent way. If a guy wants to take a knee, or wants to express himself in any different manner, he has that right. And the biggest thing is that it’s in a peaceful manner. So that really bothered me. And I think us as a group, as a team, we want to display that, hey, we come together as a team and show that to the world that no matter how different each other person are, we can come together. Simple as that.” So yeah, at this point, it’s about protesting the POTUS. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/7 "2017-09-24T21:31:32Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Aye, and I guarantee that more people like football waaaaaaay more than the number of people who’ll stand firm with Trump on this want to stand firm on this. > > Trump picked a fight that he can’t win. > > I mean, wait until it get’s characterized as “Trump is trying to destroy the NFL and football”\ Dang. Finally an initiative I could support him on. Makes me feel dirty. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/8 "2017-09-24T21:39:23Z")
The other factor, I just mentioned in another thread is the billions of dollars Fox pays to get the rights to show the NFL. The sponsors who pay them for commercial time aren’t going to like Fox News dumping on the league and supporting the boycotters very much. I wonder if the is the straw that breaks the back, you know because rights to protest is so critical 😉 ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/9 "2017-09-24T21:41:59Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > Even Bob Kraft (who notoriously wrote a personal letter to Trump voicing support during the campaign) has slammed Trump’s remarks. About a dozen players of Kraft’s team, the Patriots, took a knee during the national anthem today, while the rest of the team linked arms. I believe I heard quite a lot of booing immediately following the anthem, but it didn’t appear that any fans stormed out in counter-protest. I would have liked to see the Pats carry their protest further by finally losing to the Texans, but whatever. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/10 "2017-09-24T21:43:57Z")
And right now, CNN is the “All NFL protests, all the time” channel even though (among other things), 3 1/2 million American citizens are without utilities in Puerto Rico, some nut walked into a church in the Nashville area and shot 7 people, and, well, North Korea. :o HELLO THERE! :smack: ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/11 "2017-09-24T21:47:18Z")
Clearly the NFL needs a team composed entirely of [del]good conservative[/del] terrorized Trumpists, who will never ever protest something unless the potato-in-chief does. And who, having been selected for their cravenness, not their gridiron skills, will also never ever win. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/12 "2017-09-24T22:08:16Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > And right now, CNN is the “All NFL protests, all the time” channel even though (among other things), 3 1/2 million American citizens are without utilities in Puerto Rico, some nut walked into a church in the Nashville area and shot 7 people, and, well, North Korea. :o > > HELLO THERE! :smack: Well, at least MSNBC has their priorities straight— they are concentrating all their airtime on the revelation that Jared Kushner set up an email account on a private server and used that account to conduct official business — or something. :smack::smack: ---
**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/13 "2017-09-24T22:11:18Z")
> [@ThisIsTheEnd](#): > > Trump called for teams to fire players who kneel during the playing of the national anthem and the players and owners (so far) told him to shove it. > > The act of attending or watching an NFL game is now an anti-Trump statement. > > \*\*BREAKING: ONE MILLION ATTEND ANTI-TRUMP RALLIES IN NFL STADIUMS SUNDAY. SIMILAR RALLIES SCHEDULED WEEKLY THROUGH FEBRUARY. > \*\* So if one million are protesting Trump by attending does that mean that the other 320+ million Americans are siding with Trump because they do not attend an NFL game? :dubious: To paraphrase Freud, sometimes a football game is just a football game. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/14 "2017-09-24T22:12:06Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > I would have liked to see the Pats carry their protest further by finally losing to the Texans, but whatever. 🙂 Perhaps the refs decided to protest by forgetting there were two teams to call penalties against 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/15 "2017-09-24T22:16:38Z")
Basic math. People who wanted to watch football no matter what will watch it. SOME people who were watching will be put off by this shit and quit watching. There might also be another group that did not watch football but NOW will because “yeah, fuck Trump/whatever”. IMO that second group WAY outnumbers the third one. Now, whether those numbers make any sigificant difference is a whole nother issue. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/16 "2017-09-24T22:21:45Z")
Jerry Jones has sided with Trump. I will be watching tomorrow night’s pre game and game closely. Most likely it will be my last game as a Cowboys fan. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/17 "2017-09-24T22:21:52Z")
> [@ThisIsTheEnd](#): > > Lol. > > rant > verb > 1. > speak or shout at length in a wild, impassioned way. > > prop·o·si·tion > noun > 1. > a statement or assertion that expresses a judgment or opinion. **Nonsense** : A statement completely devoid of logic and/or divorced from reality. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/18 "2017-09-24T22:28:09Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > And right now, CNN is the “All NFL protests, all the time” channel even though (among other things), 3 1/2 million American citizens are without utilities in Puerto Rico, some nut walked into a church in the Nashville area and shot 7 people, and, well, North Korea. Don’t blame CNN for reporting the news. President Trump looked over all the problems in this country and the rest of the world and decided this was the perfect opportunity to complain that he doesn’t like what some professional athletes are doing and make that his issue of the week. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/19 "2017-09-24T22:28:45Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Well, at least MSNBC has their priorities straight— they are concentrating all their airtime on the revelation that Jared Kushner set up an email account on a private server and used that account to conduct official business — or something. :smack::smack: Lock him up! ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/20 "2017-09-24T22:36:52Z")
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