# Trump Magically Turns NFL Games Into Anti-Trump Rallies **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 24, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216 "2017-09-24T20:34:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/241 "2017-09-26T16:12:31Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Great big fan of it. But it doesn’t apply here, and that is what has sailed right over your heads. > > The First Amendment prohibits the Federal government from stifling free speech: > > The 14th makes that applicable to state and local governments. > > However, this is private enterprise, not government. If I own a team in the NFL (or any other professional organization), I have the right to demand that players and anyone else representing that team do not act in a manner that disgraces the team or the league. If they do so, I fire them. Period. > > But it won’t happen because the league and the owners are all gutless. Well, perhaps after they lose enough money because of the stupid antics of the players, they might start firing them. We can only hope. And yet, the President, his press secretary, and at least 2 Cabinet members are attempting to stifle free speech. > [@Clothahump](#): > > If they were being treated unfairly by police, they would have a legitimate beef. But they don’t. So yeah - shut up, play ball and enjoy the money. You mean, like the NFL player that felt unfairly targeted by police in Vegas after a shooting in a nightclub just a couple months ago? Shut up and…well, just shut up. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/242 "2017-09-26T16:13:57Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > But it won’t happen because the league and the owners are all gutless. Well, perhaps after they lose enough money because of the stupid antics of the players, they might start firing them. We can only hope. Another way to look at it is that they are showing tremendous amount of intestinal fortitude and solidarity. Despite holding a variety of views on the subject they are united in standing up to that incompetent orange douchebag. Seems the Great Orange Menace is capable of uniting the country after all. Majority of people across the spectrum are coming together in their loathing of the GOM. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/243 "2017-09-26T16:16:55Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Most people who care about civil rights still stand for the national anthem. And Trump created (on purpose) the situation that separates these people from those who don’t. > > Trump is a master manipulator. This was a brilliant stroke. But yes, you (plural) keep circle-jerking the “Trump is de stoopid” meme. See how far it will get you. Sorry, not getting it here. In what way does Trump benefit from making large portions of the population become permanently disgusted with him? ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/244 "2017-09-26T16:19:01Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Sorry, not getting it here. In what way does Trump benefit from making large portions of the population become permanently disgusted with him? No, you don’t get it. Just like you didn’t get it for the whole period of the presidential campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/245 "2017-09-26T16:22:06Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Most people who care about civil rights still stand for the national anthem. And Trump created (on purpose) the situation that separates these people from those who don’t. > > Trump is a master manipulator. This was a brilliant stroke. But yes, you (plural) keep circle-jerking the “Trump is de stoopid” meme. See how far it will get you. Wait a minute… I thought being divisive was bad? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/246 "2017-09-26T16:22:17Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Most people who care about civil rights still stand for the national anthem. And Trump created (on purpose) the situation that separates these people from those who don’t. > > Trump is a master manipulator. This was a brilliant stroke. But yes, you (plural) keep circle-jerking the “Trump is de stoopid” meme. See how far it will get you. If you stick your tongue just a little deeper up Trump’s ass, you’ll actually be licking Putin’s ass with him. See how far that will get you. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/247 "2017-09-26T16:22:41Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > No, you don’t get it. Just like you didn’t get it for the whole period of the presidential campaign. Period is right. It’s a bloody mess. ---
**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/248 "2017-09-26T16:26:43Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > What a great trick by Trump. In a couple of tweets, he created a situation and a separation that, for most of the country, is about as stark as it can be. If you stand for the national anthem, you’re with Trump. Now, look at the huge majority of the country, and tell me whether they stand for the national anthem or not. > > It’s hilarious to see the political junkies with enormous blinders on this forum try to convince themselves that this was some kind of a blunder by Trump. You can stand for the anthem and advocate for those who don’t at the same time, that’s why people linked arms. I’ll continue to stand and continue to think that Trump is a few cards short of a full deck. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/249 "2017-09-26T16:29:18Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > No, you don’t get it. Just like you didn’t get it for the whole period of the presidential campaign. Trump barely won a Presidential campaign, therefore everything he does is MASTER MANIPULATION! No wall? MASTER MANIPULATION! Rocket Man? MASTER MANIPULATION! Grab 'em by the pussy? MASTER MANIPULATION! Props to you for your consistency! ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/250 "2017-09-26T16:35:23Z")
> [@Tee](#): > > You can stand for the anthem and advocate for those who don’t at the same time, that’s why people linked arms. I’ll continue to stand and continue to think that Trump is a few cards short of a full deck. You (again, plural) think that the SDMB echo chamber is in any way reflective of the country. It isn’t. If you haven’t learned that from the 2016 election, you never will. Trump, whether intuitively or intellectually, has his finger on the pulse of the country more often than not. And bringing up this issue was one of the most effective ways for him to make his opposition seem like a tiny minority in the standing-up-for-the-anthem country. As I said, a brilliant stroke. See how Democrats are playing along with it by kneeling in Congress. Perfect. As with most of Trump’s brilliant strokes, it will only become obvious to you what it was in the future. At the time it is always a “blunder” for the political junkies. And they are always wrong. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/251 "2017-09-26T16:37:59Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Most people who care about civil rights still stand for the national anthem. And Trump created (on purpose) the situation that separates these people from those who don’t. I believe he did. He is intentionally creating and exacerbating divides in the American populace. And I think that’s evil. I don’t demand that kind of loyalty from my family, much less an abstract notion like my country. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/252 "2017-09-26T16:38:21Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > You (again, plural) think that the SDMB echo chamber is in any way reflective of the country. It isn’t. If you haven’t learned that from the 2016 election, you never will. Trump, whether intuitively or intellectually, has his finger on the pulse of the country more often than not. And bringing up this issue was one of the most effective ways for him to make his opposition seem like a tiny minority in the standing-up-for-the-anthem country. As I said, a brilliant stroke. See how Democrats are playing along with it by kneeling in Congress. Perfect. > > As with most of Trump’s brilliant strokes, it will only become obvious to you what it was in the future. At the time it is always a “blunder” for the political junkies. And they are always wrong. Jesus. No matter how much you kiss Donald’s butt, he isn’t going to ask you to the prom. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/253 "2017-09-26T16:38:57Z")
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/254 "2017-09-26T16:40:12Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Most people who care about civil rights still stand for the national anthem. And Trump created (on purpose) the situation that separates these people from those who don’t. You mean “those who care about it in a childish, reflexive, jingoistic way” and “those who care about it in a mature, responsible, truly patriotic way”, I hope. Do you? ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/255 "2017-09-26T16:42:27Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I believe he did. He is intentionally creating and exacerbating divides in the American populace. And I think that’s evil. I don’t demand that kind of loyalty from my family, much less an abstract notion like my country. There was always a divide between those who would stand for the national anthem and those who wouldn’t. Pointing at the divide is not creating it. It is (arguably) exacerbating it. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/256 "2017-09-26T16:43:53Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > As with most of Trump’s brilliant strokes, it will only become obvious to you what it was in the future. At the time it is always a “blunder” for the political junkies. And they are always wrong. Neither Trump, nor you, would recognize a “brilliant stroke” if it stuck its dick in your ear and fuck-started your brain. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/257 "2017-09-26T16:47:17Z")
Skull fucking is allowed in the pit? This is a cozy place. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/258 "2017-09-26T16:50:28Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Neither Trump, nor you, would recognize a “brilliant stroke” if it stuck its dick in your ear and fuck-started your brain. Now maybe comrade troll will run back between **Bone** ’s legs in Elections to be protected from the bad words down here. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/259 "2017-09-26T16:50:33Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > There was always a divide between those who would stand for the national anthem and those who wouldn’t. Pointing at the divide is not creating it. It is (arguably) exacerbating it. Exactly. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/260 "2017-09-26T16:51:24Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > There was always a divide between those who would stand for the national anthem and those who wouldn’t. P\*\*ointing at the divide is not creating it. \*\*It is (arguably) exacerbating it. I have always stood for the National Anthem. I don’t think I will anymore. Trump has pushed me across the divide. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216.md?page=14)