# Trump Magically Turns NFL Games Into Anti-Trump Rallies **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 24, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216 "2017-09-24T20:34:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![4d3fect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/4d3fect/32/9728_2.png) [@4d3fect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/4d3fect)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/21 "2017-09-24T22:46:34Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Clearly the NFL needs a team composed entirely of [del]good conservative[/del] terrorized Trumpists, who will never ever protest something unless the potato-in-chief does. And who, having been selected for their cravenness, not their gridiron skills, will also never ever win. Thought he was a yam? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/22 "2017-09-24T22:57:08Z")
So I’m watched Fox for a while to see how they were covering this. First, I want to note that the crazy right wing cheerleading happens much more strongly during Fox and Friends in the AM and during the evening commentator shows. The afternoon news tends to be more straightforward. And I have to give them props for not over focusing. I saw evenly lengthed segments on Puerto Rico hurricane recovery, the Nashville shooting, the rescue efforts in Mexico City, North Korea and the NFL thing. One thing I’ve noticed about Fox is they don’t come blasting out of the gate with their unique spin, they start slow and sort of workshop their angle to see how well it sells. They were not ignoring the NFL story and on the surface they were being fairly even-handed. But they did put a lot of weight behind the story of the one player that stood and the fact that he was a veteran of the Afghanistan war. Then they interviewed a fan who said he was against the protests because he was a veteran -although he seemed pretty lukewarm on the issue and wasn’t about to stop watching games. So look for the Fox commentators to spin this as " if you disrespect the national anthem you are disrespecting our veterans." It’s the kind of total false equivalency they are known for. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/23 "2017-09-24T23:30:17Z")
Trump has miscalculated badly. (Or more realistically: his habitual trust in his “instincts” has led him into serious trouble.) Trump assumed the team owners would put those defiant blacks in their place–and the glory would redound to Trump. The adulation he’d receive at rallies would put past displays of adoration to shame! But that didn’t happen. And the thing is: he won’t let it go. He is going to double down. He will enlist _Fox & Friends_ and _The National Enquirer_ to vilify the players, and scold the owners as being cowards, and threaten boycotts…but it will only convince more players to take the knee and more owners to come out on the field and take the knee with them. (Already the owners of the Rams and of the Chargers, at least, have expressed solidarity with the players.) Trump will come out of this looking like an ineffectual weakling. It’s his worst nightmare. (Will he try to compensate by ordering the bombing of North Korea? That’s the danger, here.) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/24 "2017-09-24T23:34:44Z")
This is a fight Trump can win: after all, the last time Trump took on the NFL, he won 3 whole dollars! ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/25 "2017-09-24T23:44:48Z")
How can Trump call on his base to boycott the NFL? What ELSE do they have to bring a glimmer of joy into their putrid lives? Okay, NASCAR. But I can’t see them taking up competitive chess or getting into Renaissance art or learning the cello… ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/26 "2017-09-24T23:49:59Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > How can Trump call on his base to boycott the NFL? What ELSE do they have to bring a glimmer of joy into their putrid lives? Okay, NASCAR. But I can’t see them taking up competitive chess or getting into Renaissance art or learning the cello… Hey, them Southern boys LOVE their flag. It’s usually the traitor flag, but the LOVE IT! ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/27 "2017-09-24T23:58:24Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > How can Trump call on his base to boycott the NFL? What ELSE do they have to bring a glimmer of joy into their putrid lives? Okay, NASCAR. But I can’t see them taking up competitive chess or getting into Renaissance art or learning the cello… Wait until he hears about NASCAR’s socialist agenda; Every race, including: organizers, owners, sponsors, teams and drivers run almost exclusively left. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/28 "2017-09-24T23:59:51Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > How can Trump call on his base to boycott the NFL? What ELSE do they have to bring a glimmer of joy into their putrid lives? Okay, NASCAR. But I can’t see them taking up competitive chess or getting into Renaissance art or learning the cello… Dude, have you tried to watch NASCAR lately? I was a fan for decades but I walked away when the latest format change happened and I know I wasn’t alone. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/29 "2017-09-25T00:02:13Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > How can Trump call on his base to boycott the NFL? What ELSE do they have to bring a glimmer of joy into their putrid lives? Okay, NASCAR. But I can’t see them taking up competitive chess or getting into Renaissance art or learning the cello… I had a cheese and onion enchilada tonight. Seemed to fill my putrid life up just fine. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/30 "2017-09-25T00:02:33Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Dude, have you tried to watch NASCAR lately? I was a fan for decades but I walked away when the latest format change happened and I know I wasn’t alone. Enlighten us cycling fans. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/31 "2017-09-25T00:11:36Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > I had a cheese and onion enchilada tonight. Seemed to fill my putrid life up just fine. Did you remember to take your statins, and opioids? ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/32 "2017-09-25T00:24:01Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Trump has miscalculated badly. (Or more realistically: his habitual trust in his “instincts” has led him into serious trouble.) How many times have we heard this? Trump’s base eats this shit up. This won’t hurt him just like the other dozen times something like this happened and it didn’t hurt him. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/33 "2017-09-25T00:27:39Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Did you remember to take your statins, and opioids? No, because I ran outa japaleno slices…☹ ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/34 "2017-09-25T00:35:00Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Wait until he hears about NASCAR’s socialist agenda; Every race, including: organizers, owners, sponsors, teams and drivers run almost exclusively left. > **[NASCAR owners side with Trump, take firm stance against anthem protests](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2017/09/24/nascar-owners-trump-protests-response-petty-ganassi-childress/698122001/)** > > Richard Petty and Richard Childress among the team owners that were adamant employees should stand for the national anthem. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/35 "2017-09-25T00:36:09Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > I had a cheese and onion enchilada tonight. Seemed to fill my putrid life up just fine. Hope you enjoyed dinner! And I trust you had a nice side of frijoles and rice…a single enchilada makes for a meager meal! ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/36 "2017-09-25T00:37:16Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Trump has miscalculated badly. (Or more realistically: his habitual trust in his “instincts” has led him into serious trouble.) Apparently Trump-haters are not yet tired of constantly being wrong. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/37 "2017-09-25T00:42:10Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > How can Trump call on his base to boycott the NFL? What ELSE do they have to bring a glimmer of joy into their putrid lives? Okay, NASCAR. But I can’t see them taking up competitive chess or getting into Renaissance art or learning the cello… [Both Richard Childress and \ Richard Petty come down hard against the protests, threaten firing any NASCAR employees who do so.](https://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2017/9/24/16358654/nascar-team-owners-richard-petty-richard-childress-stand-national-anthem-president-donald-trump) Petty: > [@](#): > > “Anybody that don’t stand up for that ought to be out of the country. Period,” Petty said, via USA Today. “If they don’t appreciate where they’re at … what got them where they’re at? The United States.” Childress: > [@](#): > > “Get you a ride on a Greyhound bus when the national anthem is over,’’ Childress said. “Anybody that works for me should respect the country we live in. So many people gave their lives for it. This is America.’’ ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/38 "2017-09-25T00:45:34Z")
I can almost see the General Lee burning rubber and hear the horn blowing. God its wonderful… ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/39 "2017-09-25T00:58:12Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Did you remember to take your statins, and opioids? Hang on. You get drugs if you support Trump? I missed the memo. Explains a lot though. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216/40 "2017-09-25T01:07:26Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Apparently Trump-haters are not yet tired of constantly being wrong. Obviously neither are you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-magically-turns-nfl-games-into-anti-trump-rallies/797216.md?page=3)