# Trump makes major announcement December 15. What is it? {Just digital trading cards of Trump} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 14, 2022, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531 "2022-12-14T20:28:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531/503 "2022-12-22T19:40:19Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Didn’t elections to determine the electors only start in the 1820s? Varied from state to state but there were states from the very beginning where voters chose electors directly, though it could vary in whether the electors were chosen in statewide ballots or within districts. And that did indeed change to several state choosing to have their legislatures choose electors as political parties formed and took control of state legislatures but this wasn’t the case for all states. That said, electors didn’t always state their intent or directly state their preferred political party, so “popular vote” for POTUS is a difficult concept for those first few elections. But by ~1800 or so and definitely by the 1820s, it was pretty clear how electors would go, for the states where electors were directly elected, a vote for a particular elector was more or less a vote for that POTUS candidate. There were some states that held out and still had their legislatures choose electors until just about the Civil War but certainly after that point, popular vote was used and morphed into the current system where most people don’t even know who the electors for their state are. But (yet again), record keeping back then wasn’t great in every state, so some early vote tallies have been lost to history. So, definitely vote totals for Washington, in particular, would definitely be nebulous, but less so for Adams and Jefferson and very much less so after, at least in states where electors were chosen by popular vote. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531/504 "2022-12-22T19:47:56Z")
Thanks for the info. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531/505 "2022-12-22T20:10:33Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > They appear to be AI generated using by combining various background, outfits, and accessories. It’s not like they were individually created. And it appears they may have been created using unauthorized/“stolen” images. > **[Trump is accused of using copyrighted images in his NFT collection](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-accused-using-copyrighted-images-155732599.html)** > > Eagle-eyed social media users noticed that some of the designs appear to be little more than Mr Trump’s head edited onto images found on the websites of small apparel businesses, stock images or even outfits sold on Amazon and Walmart [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/dEk8Hb_v0xE/maxresdefault.jpg "It Looks Like Trump STOLE The Images For His NFT Trading Cards") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEk8Hb_v0xE) ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531/506 "2022-12-22T21:13:47Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > … they may have been created using unauthorized/“stolen” images. I’m shocked. Just shocked. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531/507 "2022-12-24T22:05:44Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > the artist taking the piss on “tiny hands” Trump The artist is a Russian hooker? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531/508 "2022-12-25T01:28:44Z")
[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-s-trading-cards-have-lost-this-much-value-in-one-week/ar-AA15Dtl8?ocid=winpstoreapp&cvid=587db229f62b4cd0acc773e8b456e471](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-s-trading-cards-have-lost-this-much-value-in-one-week/ar-AA15Dtl8?ocid=winpstoreapp&cvid=587db229f62b4cd0acc773e8b456e471) > Donald Trump’s digital trading cards have lost 72 percent of their value in the last week after prices initially soared online, according to figures from the OpenSea website which tracks the sale of non-fungible tokens (NFTs). Boo. Fucking. Hoo. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531/509 "2022-12-25T01:42:55Z")
As long as Trump got his when the value was at its peak, his job here is done. As for Trump’s dipshit suckers, boo fucking hoo sums it up well. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531/510 "2022-12-25T01:45:39Z")
And yet, “In total each card has still gained significant value since they were first sold, with their cost increasing by 182 percent since they were made available.” How is this whole thing not nuts? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531/511 "2022-12-25T02:34:55Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > How is this whole thing not nuts? It is, but that’s the world we are living in now. Ain’t that something. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531/512 "2022-12-25T04:42:08Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Donald Trump’s digital trading cards have lost 72 percent of their value in the last week after prices initially soared online, according to figures from the OpenSea website which tracks the sale of non-fungible tokens (NFTs). The Dump. Suckers have been fleeced. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531/513 "2022-12-25T14:52:17Z")
And now we know: > **[Trump says million-dollar NFT 'trading cards' of him as a superhero were...](https://news.yahoo.com/trump-says-million-dollar-nft-200156977.html)** > > "You know, it's sort of comic book art when you think of it, but they showed me the art and I said, gee, I always wanted to have a 30-inch waist," Trump said. > [@](#): > > - Donald Trump sells out NFT trading cards in hours but says it’s not about the money, Newsweek reports. > - Trump told a conservative network the NFTs were “art” and “sorta cute” after selling them for $99 each. A saying that probably goes back a hundred years: when a buddy tells you that it’s “not about the money. It’s the principle of the thing …” It’s about the money. But … y’know … I’m glad the truth has finally come out 😉 ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531/514 "2022-12-25T15:06:24Z")
What’s next, digital bicycles so you can put your digital cards in the digital spokes? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531/515 "2022-12-25T15:10:56Z")
You mean Pelatons? ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531/516 "2022-12-25T17:17:27Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Donald Trump’s digital trading cards have lost 72 percent of their value in the last week after prices initially soared online, according to figures from the OpenSea website which tracks the sale of non-fungible tokens (NFTs). I’m not sure the price really matters to many of his followers. They may have bought them for things like the satisfaction of owning part of a collection, supporting Trump, bragging rights to their fellow Trumpers, etc. They may have no plans to ever sell. It’s like how people buy Franklin Mint plates or old beer cans for the enjoyment of having the items rather than a future cash windfall. I wouldn’t be surprised if the people expecting an investment were not even Trump supporters. They may have bought in with the hope of a big payday and not cared anything about Trump. It might be like how someone got into the Beanie Baby market with the hope of making big profits rather than any love for the stuffed animals themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531/517 "2022-12-25T17:37:08Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > It might be like how someone got into the Beanie Baby market with the hope of making big profits rather than any love for the stuffed animals themselves. Next you’re going to tell me that my vast collection of Beanie Babies in my garage are not worth a fortune. I’m planning on retiring soon on the funds. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531/518 "2022-12-25T17:39:17Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > It’s like how people buy Franklin Mint plates or old beer cans for the enjoyment of having the items rather than a future cash windfall. I’ve spotted a flaw in the logic of applying the enjoyment of ownership of a physical object to NFTs. Not that it has stopped any of the rubes in NFT schemes. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531/519 "2022-12-25T18:04:53Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Next you’re going to tell me that my vast collection of Beanie Babies in my garage are not worth a fortune. I’m planning on retiring soon on the funds. You might like this 8 minute documentary a guy did on his family and their Beanie Baby obsession. It was made for a university class, but he did a good job. Bankrupted by Beanie Babies [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/PgDsyj5eLmo/hqdefault.jpg "Bankrupt By Beanies") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgDsyj5eLmo) ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531/520 "2022-12-26T13:24:33Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > What’s next, digital bicycles so you can put your digital cards in the digital spokes? …and the sound they make is “suckersuckersuckerscuker”. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531/521 "2022-12-26T15:37:47Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > > [@BobLibDem](#): > > > > What’s next, digital bicycles so you can put your digital cards in the digital spokes? > > …and the sound they make is “suckersuckersuckerscuker” I’ve actually heard one of these rolling by. It got a puncture, and then went “chumpchumpchumpchumpchumpchump.” ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531/522 "2022-12-26T15:54:14Z")
As a single piece of anecdata, a friend of mine claimed, to a roomful of MAGA, that he bought a Trump NFT for shits and giggles… and they all thought he was a fool for wasting his money. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531.md?page=25) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-makes-major-announcement-december-15-what-is-it-just-digital-trading-cards-of-trump/976531.md?page=27)