Trump may not submit a budget next year

Kind of like Obama’s presidency where everything bad was the fault of GW Bush.

Name a few?

Oh my goodness. I didn’t join until 2010.

I’ll behave myself then.

In your world, Bush left the economy in fantastic shape, and there was never any war in Iraq.

Unemployment is now at 4.6%.

Yes…When the economy is hemorrhaging 900,000 jobs per month when you take office, it is your predecessor’s fault!

2009, actually.

No. Really Congress just eliminates big changes in policy and tinkers with 5% of what’s left. The vast majority gets enacted with little controversy.

He wasn’t actually executed, or anything.

Frankly, I didn’t even know until now that he had been Uploaded to the Cloud .

Too soon?

I do find the time frame stated in the law to be rather odd. Sure, Congress might want to have a budget proposal when their term starts but if you know a president will be inaugurated on the 20th every four years then why not set the time frame accordingly so it would never overlap a transition between two presidents.

And yeah, what Saint Cad said about Congress ignoring a budget proposal. Congress has to make the appropriations. I can see a president making requests about his/her priorities, but it should ultimately be up to Congress to put together the budget.

The Heaviside Layer. :frowning:

The real question is when Trump fails to submit a budget and the House impeaches him, do the Democrats in the Senate filibuster the trial?

Why filibuster? 2/3 are needed to convict.
The Dems just need to vote to acquit.

Here’s an idea. Hows about waiting until Trump actually does, or doesn’t do, something before cranking up the outrage machine? Or at least wait until he clearly makes an announcement to do, or not do, something. As running coach noted earlier, this is just a rumor from unnamed “sources”. Take some advice from this poster. She seems to have a pretty good head on her shoulders. :wink: I have a sneaking suspicion there will be plenty of opportunity for well grounded outrage in the months to come.

He’s already told us exactly what he plans to do and his cabinet nominations so far indicate that he is not joking. Why wait? He who hesitates is lost.

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Reeder was banned for obsessively posting Pit threads about GW Bush. With only a couple anti-Trump threads on the front page, you’re not in his league just yet.

You may want to pace yourself, however. It’s going to be a long four years.:wink:

Thanks for the correction. I looked at the date of the post on the In Memoriam thread.

I’ll be in a padded room under i.v. sedation long before that.

I’m worried Trump’s laziness just means Paul Ryan gets to write his budget as he wants, and then budget reconciliation is pushed through.

Supply side tax cuts
Turn medicare into a voucher program
Turn medicaid into a block grant program

Bad times ahead. However who knows if the GOP can get enough votes to pass medicare vouchers.

Does the senate need 51 votes to pass something via reconciliation, or can they pass it with 50 votes plus the VP as a tie breaker? I think at least 2 GOP senators have said they wouldn’t support medicare vouchers.

However the GOP will probably pick up senate seats in 2018.

And let me guess; after that it’ll be “wait until we see the results” And then wait a little more, and wait a little more, and oops now it’s too late to talk about the issue, it’s all over.

Continuing resolutions can add new appropriations items, but usually not huge multiple $10 billion+ items. An example is the Iraq Train and Equip Fund passed in the FY 2015 National Defense Appropriations Act (NDAA) that added a new $1.6 billion appropriation for contracts to provide training, equipment, supplies, and services to any armed force recognized as having a national security mission from the government of Iraq. This was a completely new appropriation.

But, the whole intended purpose behind continuing resolutions was to serve as a stop-gap fix that largely just copies and pastes all of the budget appropriations from the last budget until a new, comprehensive one can be drafted and passed. Continuing resolutions are often times passed in chunks these days, grouped together a few budget sections at a time, with defense usually given its own bill. This is definitely not efficient and would make it difficult to fund and enact a comprehensive agenda outside of doing something here and there. More importantly, continuing resolutions play havoc with federal agencies and their individual budgets since a regular budget provides clarity and predictability for a full fiscal year while continuing resolutions often times last a lot shorter and often times do not take into account changing circumstances for an agency from year to year that can affect their budget. The best example of this is going to be with DHS and any expectation that they vastly increase the workload and personnel for immigration related functions without a full year’s budget to be able to use in their planning and management.

I keep expecting Trump to declare that he has tiger blood.