# Trump Might Have Called for the Termination of the Constitution **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 3, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-might-have-called-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990 "2022-12-03T23:31:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-might-have-called-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990/181 "2022-12-06T16:19:04Z")
To me, that’s the REAL problem. The Republicans, as individuals and as a party, won’t repudiate the guy who won a presidential election. This is what used to be called cowardice, back when that was a concept. We’re supposed to have some bedrock principles and value. Trump doesn’t (well, he has one—promote Donald Trump). Trump is dangerous, but wouldn’t be if his party made it clear that beyond-the-pale words and actions made him persona non grata. The bit about the Constitution in this particular statement doesn’t worry me. January 6th, and the incredible lack of reaction thereto, did and does. The bit about election fraud in this particular statement, which is unambiguous, did and does. Mind you, Trump probably by now believes his own lie there, but it would be nice if his fellow Republicans at least said “poor Trump; he’s gone round the bend. Of course we can no longer have him in a leadership role in the party, though we wish him well” or something. ---
**Author:** ![Rhodes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhodes/32/273_2.png) [@Rhodes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhodes)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-might-have-called-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990/182 "2022-12-06T16:28:31Z")
Some Republicans are finally sick of it. From the thread about the Trump campaign: > [@The Donald Trump 2024 Campaign Thread (Primary Edition)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/267): > > _The National Review_ comes out with the most effective anti-Trump message of this campaign season: > > [Trump & 2020: Aren’t You All Tired of This Crap? | National Review](https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/arent-you-all-tired-of-this-crap/) According to the media bias charts, _The National Review_ is right-biased on par with OANN and Newsmax. ---
**Author:** ![Kelby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a587f6/32.png) [@Kelby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kelby)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-might-have-called-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990/183 "2022-12-06T19:19:02Z")
> [@The Donald Trump 2024 Campaign Thread (Primary Edition)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/267): > > Some Republicans are finally sick of it. From the thread about the Trump campaign: > > > [@The Donald Trump 2024 Campaign Thread (Primary Edition)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/267): > > > > _The National Review_ comes out with the most effective anti-Trump message of this campaign season: > > > > [Trump & 2020: Aren’t You All Tired of This Crap? | National Review](https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/arent-you-all-tired-of-this-crap/) > > According to the media bias charts, _The National Review_ is right-biased on par with OANN and Newsmax. Must be a relief for many of the right wing bubble writers to not have to defend Trump’s nonsense any more. Kinda like the drunk giving up the bottle. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-might-have-called-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990/184 "2022-12-06T19:27:32Z")
> [@Kelby](#): > > Must be a relief for many of the right wing bubble writers to not have to defend Trump’s nonsense any more. Kinda like the drunk giving up the bottle. Maybe some of the journalists(?) of these outlets had sold their souls and are relieved now to be able to express what they really thought all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-might-have-called-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990/185 "2022-12-06T19:32:26Z")
> [@Rhodes](#): > > According to the media bias charts, _The National Review_ is right-biased on par with OANN and Newsmax. _The National Review_ doesn’t pretend to be news media. It is purely right-wing opinion pieces. (Similar to _The Nation_ or _Mother Jones_, albeit different politics.) But they were never on the Trump train. They’re wrong within normal parameters. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-might-have-called-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990/186 "2022-12-06T19:44:19Z")
> [@Kelby](#): > > Must be a relief for many of the right wing bubble writers to not have to defend Trump’s nonsense any more. As for the rest… I wonder if it’s ever occurred to the remaining Trump sycophants that shortly they will be defending a man who appears at a press conference with his underpants on his head ranting about how the shape-shifting aliens are beaming rays into his head, and closing off by shouting the N word over and over again. I mean, that’s where it’s heading at this point, and if they want to try to parse that future press conference into “What he really meant” or “but but Biden is worse”, then good luck to them. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-might-have-called-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990/187 "2022-12-06T20:06:46Z")
Just for the record - > **[McConnell criticizes Trump's comments on the Constitution | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/06/politics/mcconnell-trump-constitution/index.html)** > > Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell criticized former President Donald Trump's comments in a post on Truth Social earlier this week that called for the "termination" of the Constitution. But most are pointing out the Constitution is Important, but saying very very little about Trump by name. I mean after all, their own power comes from the Constitution, and they fully intend to be in power long after Trump is done as a force. Which is honestly where they expected to be during Trump’s 4/8 years in their original calculations - “if he would only just rally the rubes and let us rule.” being the unspoken objective during his time. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-might-have-called-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990/188 "2022-12-06T20:09:36Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > Just for the record From that link, however: > McConnell would not say if he would support Trump if he gets the Republican nomination ---
**Author:** ![Kelby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a587f6/32.png) [@Kelby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kelby)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-might-have-called-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990/189 "2022-12-06T20:11:20Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > [@Kelby](#): > > > > Must be a relief for many of the right wing bubble writers to not have to defend Trump’s nonsense any more. > > As for the rest… I wonder if it’s ever occurred to the remaining Trump sycophants that shortly they will be defending a man who appears at a press conference with his underpants on his head ranting about how the shape-shifting aliens are beaming rays into his head, and closing off by shouting the N word over and over again. > > I mean, that’s where it’s heading at this point, and if they want to try to parse that future press conference into “What he really meant” or “but but Biden is worse”, then good luck to them. Many are so far down the garden path with Trump they’ve completely lost any sense of objectivity. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-might-have-called-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990/190 "2022-12-06T21:44:43Z")
> [@Rhodes](#): > > According to the media bias charts, _The National Review_ is right-biased on par with OANN and Newsmax. _The National Review_ was founded by and follows the precepts of William F. Buckley, Jr. and is very much in the mold of the traditional Conservative movement which includes free trade, respecting personal freedoms versus “states rights”, and open immigration policy. It is pretty much the anathema of Trumpy autocracy. Republicans may be very gingerly trying to distance themselves from Donald Trump, but many of them are very openly adopting Trump-like political stances, rhetoric, and attitudes toward elections and the democratic process. This is not going away even if Trump himself fades into the orange shag carpet of a shitty hotel he bought and drove into bankruptcy. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-might-have-called-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990/191 "2022-12-06T21:52:55Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > From that link, however: > > > McConnell would not say if he would support Trump if he gets the Republican nomination Of course not. McConnell is a savvy politician. I suspect that he strongly dislikes Trump, and wishes that Trump would just ride off into the sunset. But, McConnell doubtlessly realizes that, at this point in time, he needs Trump’s supporters (and, by extension, Trump) in order to maintain, and increase, both his (McConnell’s) personal power, and the power of the GOP. Unless and until his political calculus indicates to him that overtly opposing Trump won’t jeopardize the above, he will not say nor do anything that would pit him against Trump. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-might-have-called-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990/192 "2022-12-06T22:06:36Z")
> [@Rhodes](#): > > According to the media bias charts, _The National Review_ is right-biased on par with OANN and Newsmax. The _National Review_ has _never_ approved of Trump or anything he did. That they delivered an anti-Trump message isn’t at all surprising. They’ve been doing that for the past six years. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-might-have-called-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990/193 "2022-12-06T22:11:15Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > > [@thorny\_locust](#): > > > > > McConnell would not say if he would support Trump if he gets the Republican nomination > > Of course not. McConnell is a savvy politician. He took an oath to uphold the Constitution. Not an oath to stay in office by any means that he thinks will work. Many of the Republicans who took that oath are currently in violation of it. The fact that this is true, and that there are some voters who don’t care or are in favor of this, doesn’t excuse McConnell, or anyone else violating that oath, one bit. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-might-have-called-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990/194 "2022-12-06T22:15:31Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Unless and until his political calculus indicates to him that overtly opposing Trump won’t jeopardize the above, he will not say nor do anything that would pit him against Trump. The people elected McConnell to be their leader; he must follow them. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-might-have-called-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990/195 "2022-12-06T22:26:53Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > Many of the Republicans who took that oath are currently in violation of it. The fact that this is true, and that there are some voters who don’t care or are in favor of this, doesn’t excuse McConnell, or anyone else violating that oath, one bit. To be clear, I wasn’t trying to excuse McConnell (whom I feel is pretty loathsome, and who is “political” in the most cynical sense of the word); I was simply explaining why it should come as no surprise at all that he refused to take a stand on supporting Trump as a potential presidential nominee. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-might-have-called-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990/196 "2022-12-06T22:38:37Z")
Oh, yeah. I wasn’t surprised. McConnell’s made it clear for years that his seat’s more important to him than the good of the nation. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-might-have-called-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990/197 "2022-12-12T16:31:22Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > Which is honestly where they expected to be during Trump’s 4/8 years in their original calculations - “if he would only just rally the rubes and let us rule.” being the unspoken objective during his time. I still think they expected him to succumb to one hamberder too many and leave Pence in the big chair. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-might-have-called-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990/198 "2022-12-12T16:37:17Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > I still think they expected him to succumb to one hamberder too many and leave Pence in the big chair Obviously, I know what you mean but I think you and I are remembering things a bit differently: [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En0VHuOXIAAovoE?format=jpg&name=900x900](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En0VHuOXIAAovoE?format=jpg&name=900x900) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-might-have-called-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990/199 "2022-12-12T17:49:25Z")
I salute the person who set this up, making Trump look like a little boy at the kid’s table. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-might-have-called-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990/200 "2022-12-12T17:58:31Z")
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