# Trump nominates Jeff Sessions for AG

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 18, 2016, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-nominates-jeff-sessions-for-ag/772327 "2016-11-18T15:27:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-nominates-jeff-sessions-for-ag/772327/61 "2016-11-28T21:45:26Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> The Fugitive Slave Act was an act of Congress. It did not “ignore,” states’ rights because the very concept of “states’ rights,” refers to the powers that are NOT granted to the federal government in the federal constitution.

No; in \*real life \*“states rights” refers to “the right wing has the right to do as it pleases and force everyone else to go along, everyone else doesn’t”. Everything else is handwaving.

The Fugitive Slave Act was exactly that; the slave states demanding that other states not only tolerate slavery, but enforce slavery for them as well as force free black people into slavery.

And when they lost the power to do that kind of thing? Why, other states doing things _their_ way was so intolerable the South started a civil war over it. And created a Confederacy that forbade states to reject slavery; so much for their love of “states rights”.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-nominates-jeff-sessions-for-ag/772327/62 "2016-11-29T06:27:47Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> The Fugitive Slave Act was exactly that; the slave states demanding that other states not only tolerate slavery, but enforce slavery for them as well as force free black people into slavery.
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> And when they lost the power to do that kind of thing? Why, other states doing things _their_ way was so intolerable the South started a civil war over it. And created a Confederacy that forbade states to reject slavery; so much for their love of “states rights”.

Except as Bricker and I both pointed out, that version of history is wrong. The first Fugitive Slave Law was passed in 1793 and allowed slaveowners to seize their slaves in free states in accordance with the US Constitution. The fugitive slave law you are discussing was a counter to personal liberty laws (basically laws allowing people to ignore the Constitution) and so it required people to follow the law.

As distasteful as it may seem, anyone who believes that the Fugitive Slave Laws should not have been obeyed despite the Constitution and Federal Law are themselves guilty of the same argument the South used in defense of States’ Rights.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-nominates-jeff-sessions-for-ag/772327/63 "2016-11-29T07:12:53Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> As distasteful as it may seem, anyone who believes that the Fugitive Slave Laws should not have been obeyed despite the Constitution and Federal Law are themselves guilty of the same argument the South used in defense of States’ Rights.

Yeah, because opposing grabbing people and enslaving them is _exactly_ the same as waging a war so you can enslave them. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-nominates-jeff-sessions-for-ag/772327/64 "2016-11-29T07:16:28Z")

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Damn, but you’re fun to hang with, **Der**. If somebody parked a garbage truck next to you for an hour, it would kill itself.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-nominates-jeff-sessions-for-ag/772327/65 "2016-11-29T07:36:09Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Damn, but you’re fun to hang with, **Der**. If somebody parked a garbage truck next to you for an hour, it would kill itself.

I’m depressed and hopeless, both personally and for the nation. Pretty much everything I value is going to be destroyed, or worse. Of course I’m not much fun right now.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-nominates-jeff-sessions-for-ag/772327/66 "2016-11-29T07:47:42Z")

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I love they way you dial it up to 11. Destroyed, “or worse”. Don’t change, **DT**. We love you just the way you are.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-nominates-jeff-sessions-for-ag/772327/67 "2016-11-29T07:56:01Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I love they way you dial it up to 11. Destroyed, “or worse”.

We’re putting white nationalists led by an egomaniac into power, and you think that things worse than mere destruction is “dialing it up to 11”? That’s naive.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-nominates-jeff-sessions-for-ag/772327/68 "2016-11-29T14:26:56Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> We’re putting white nationalists led by an egomaniac into power, and you think that things worse than mere destruction is “dialing it up to 11”? That’s naive.

Wait, I thought Clinton LOST the electoral vote.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-nominates-jeff-sessions-for-ag/772327/69 "2016-11-29T15:26:50Z")

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Ooh. Snap.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-nominates-jeff-sessions-for-ag/772327/70 "2016-11-29T22:25:36Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Wait, I thought Clinton LOST the electoral vote.

I’m sure that’s supposed to be an insult, but I don’t get it.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-nominates-jeff-sessions-for-ag/772327/71 "2016-11-30T01:17:02Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> I’m sure that’s supposed to be an insult, but I don’t get it.

You have to randomly insert “Benghazi”, “emails”, “Whitewater”, and “Vince Foster” into the sentence. Think of MadLibs (except that you can’t use Lib, so let’s call them MadCons - bonus points for “Islamic Terrorism”(r), “illegal immigrants”, and “activist judge”).

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-nominates-jeff-sessions-for-ag/772327/72 "2016-11-30T01:25:18Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> I’m sure that’s supposed to be an insult, but I don’t get it.

He was pretending Clinton and not Trump was the egomaniac to whom you were referring. It’s a variation on “I know you are but what am I?” This is humour, conservative-style.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-nominates-jeff-sessions-for-ag/772327/73 "2016-12-01T16:13:46Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> his thing is to butter you up before he screws you.

You mean like Brando in Last Tango in Paris?

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-nominates-jeff-sessions-for-ag/772327/74 "2016-12-01T16:25:29Z")

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It is kinda telling that the Trumpies have resorted to the exact tactic the Soviets used in the cold war - accusing your enemy of doing exactly what you’re doing.

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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-nominates-jeff-sessions-for-ag/772327/75 "2016-12-01T16:36:41Z")

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Republicans have been doing that for decades though…

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**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-nominates-jeff-sessions-for-ag/772327/76 "2017-02-09T16:28:45Z")

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Okay, now Jeff sessions has been confirmed. He’s AG. Is he actually going to look up for the rights fall Americans? Let’s find out!

Or, is he just going to make life more difficult for everybody?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-nominates-jeff-sessions-for-ag/772327/77 "2017-02-09T16:34:21Z")

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> [@Airbeck](#):
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> Republicans have been doing that for decades though…

Just like when they were spouting cherry picked Bible verses and screaming about The gay Agenda…

and getting busted trying to play Hide The Weenie in the boy’s bathroom? 🆒

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-nominates-jeff-sessions-for-ag/772327/78 "2017-02-09T16:40:57Z")

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> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#):
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> Okay, now Jeff sessions has been confirmed. He’s AG. Is he actually going to look up for the rights fall Americans? Let’s find out!

For all real Americans ('Muricans), yeah.

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> Or, is he just going to make life more difficult for everybody?

Everybody who isn’t a real 'Murican, you mean?

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-nominates-jeff-sessions-for-ag/772327/79 "2017-06-07T00:56:17Z")

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And already Sessions has offered to resign:

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> As the White House braces for former FBI Director James Comey’s testimony Thursday, sources tell ABC News the relationship between President Donald Trump and Attorney General Jeff Sessions has become so tense that Sessions at one point recently even suggested he could resign.
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> The friction between the two men stems from the attorney general’s abrupt decision in March to recuse himself from anything related to the Russia investigation – a decision the president only learned about minutes before Sessions announced it publicly. Multiple sources say the recusal is one of the top disappointments of his presidency so far and one the president has remained fixated on.

> **[Attorney General Jeff Sessions suggested he could resign amid rising tension...](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/attorney-general-jeff-sessions-suggested-resign-amid-rising/story?id=47875090)**
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> The relationship between the two is tense, sources say.

Surely if President Trump does someone the high honor of appointing him Attorney General the least he could do is to make any investigations of the President go away!!!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-nominates-jeff-sessions-for-ag/772327/80 "2017-06-07T01:04:37Z")

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Here’s hoping he gets hung by his [“Buster Browns”.](https://www.google.com/search?q=hang+him+by+his+buster+browns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjCxOnLxKrUAhWjjVQKHV9gAiQQ_AUICigB&biw=1600&bih=770#imgrc=iT6XAm3XZwMV6M:)

Two bits sez he turns State’s Evidence against the Trumpster, along with everyone else The Prick has fired.

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