# Trump not unveiling Obama portrait **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 19, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-not-unveiling-obama-portrait/854134 "2020-05-19T19:23:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-not-unveiling-obama-portrait/854134/61 "2020-05-21T03:48:03Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Another factor is the [Three Felonies a Day](https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594035229) problem. There are so many laws, and so many opportunities for a high administration appointee to break them, that every incoming administration can potentially lock up the one before. And so, instead of holding criminals responsible for their crimes, they should be excused. I’m still going with, “Nah.” ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-not-unveiling-obama-portrait/854134/62 "2020-05-21T05:03:18Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > This makes me wonder whether Biden, if he were elected, would invite Trump for an unveiling ceremony. > > And speaking of which, just what would Trump’s portrait look like? Would it depict him sitting on a throne or wearing an ermine robe? > > Or would he go for something like this: > > [Trump posted a picture of himself as Rocky. No one knows what to make of it | Donald Trump | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/27/donald-trump-rocky-picture-twitter) I think we all know what his portrait would be: [https://images.app.goo.gl/Pm9F3Ad3oujK2LQEA](https://images.app.goo.gl/Pm9F3Ad3oujK2LQEA) ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-not-unveiling-obama-portrait/854134/63 "2020-05-21T06:23:02Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > At some point, don’t we have to say that this is NOT acceptable? Yes, it’s called an election. Myself thought it was bleedingly obvious in 2016 but next available opportunity would do in a pinch. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-not-unveiling-obama-portrait/854134/64 "2020-05-21T13:23:11Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Alleged war criminals. I didn’t support them so I don’t have to pretend. War criminals. > [@](#): > > I think they had ample opportunity to defend themselves at news conferences while in office. And Republicans would never lie. Too moral, too upright. > [@](#): > > …so there is a good chance they could have gone to prison until freed by Donald Trump. You just argued that they shouldn’t be held accountable for their actions because they…might be held accountable for actions. > [@](#): > > On the other hand, the case you propose seems to have little jury appeal. Unimportant. > [@](#): > > The prospect of living in a country where losing an election results in prosecution has little appeal to me. First, I don’t care what has little appeal to you. It’s not about you. You do not matter. Second, it’s not losing elections that should result in prosecution, it’s committing crimes. I don’t even understand why you jumped from “prosecuting war crimes” to “prosecuting political opposition”. Is this projection on your part? > [@](#): > > Whether it would make life better in Afghanistan is admittedly an open question. I think no. I think yes. Or maybe I think maybe. Or maybe I think that’s not relevant. > [@](#): > > As far the idea of living in a country where one party, the Democrats, locks up those they defeated, while the Republicans don’t do it – that sounds highly unlikely. But, if it does happen, I may change back to being a Republican. Okay. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-not-unveiling-obama-portrait/854134/65 "2020-05-21T14:48:06Z")
nm (wrong thread) ---
**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-not-unveiling-obama-portrait/854134/66 "2020-05-21T19:09:00Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > “Obama would also not be interested in attending such an event, according to the report, which cited people familiar with the matter.” …because Trump is an unprecedented piece of shit. This situation has arisen with no other so-called President than Trump, because Trump is a piece of shit. Trump is not a piece of shit. He is an entire shit. He is the grand daddy of all shit. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-not-unveiling-obama-portrait/854134/67 "2020-05-21T23:44:30Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I myself would be happy to live in a country with neither political prisoners nor hellish penitentiaries. > > If what you fantasize had come to pass, I can’t see myself having changed my registration from Republican to Democratic in 2016. No one said anything about political prisoners. They’re talking about criminals convicted of crimes in a court of law serving their time. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-not-unveiling-obama-portrait/854134/68 "2020-05-21T23:58:15Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > They’re talking about criminals convicted of crimes in a court of law serving their time. I made a mistake in bringing this up. If locking up Trump becomes a big internet theme, Trump will get hundreds of thousands of votes from people who don’t like Donald but don’t want him jailed. I am nostalgic for no drama Obama. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-not-unveiling-obama-portrait/854134/69 "2020-05-22T00:02:48Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > I have great respect for the office of the President of the United States. There are a lot of Trumpanistas that think he is mistreated and that the office should be respected. However, this whole episode shows that HE DOESN’T EVEN RESPECT THE OFFICE HIMSELF. Their respect for the office is highly dependent on who the occupant is. They don’t respect the presidency equally. Trump voters see the world through a tribal lens. James Carville said it right on election night 2016: the people who voted for Trump don’t want to be united; they want the world to live by its terms. Part of their contempt for Obama, beyond his ethnicity, was his worldview of inclusion - a worldview that embraces the idea that America’s not just a country for white Christians, but also Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Muslims, gays, immigrants, women, and others. > [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > I would hope that the next president would again return respect to the office. I do not like the man, but he was legally elected and has held the office. He will get a portrait, and it will be revealed with respect. After that, I hope some kid draws a mustache on it with a sharpie. Respecting the office means prosecuting all of the criminals who are part of this corrupt cabal. Otherwise, the message going forward will be that criminals who occupy the white house will invariably be exonerated by virtue of political tradition which says “We don’t prosecute our political rivals.” That’s the sticky wicket we’re in now. We’re forced to confront the assault on our democracy, but confronting that assault means prosecuting political rivals. The apolitical among us might assume that Democrats are just trying to get even. Damned if we do, damned if we don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-not-unveiling-obama-portrait/854134/70 "2020-05-22T09:55:03Z")
I can only hope his successor unveils _his_ protrait and lets _me_ paint it. Like [that](https://schumanchu.eu/html/l/l_00091donnie~amin.html), if I may attempt to be so tasteless as he is. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-not-unveiling-obama-portrait/854134/71 "2020-05-22T20:39:20Z")
> [@TimfromNapa](#): > > Trump is not a piece of shit. He is an entire shit. He is the grand daddy of all shit. This hard to argue with. But he’s also smaller pieces. “Donald Trump: Piece Of Shit” is a true statement, as well as your’s is, too. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-not-unveiling-obama-portrait/854134/72 "2020-05-23T01:33:48Z")
This got me looking at past portraits of Presidents. For Bush I, it is below. Looked at several sites, trying to find out who those generals are, I assume they are generals, in the background painting. One would think that would be part of the description of an offical portrait of a President. In any case, was not a big fan of Obama’s portrait, just seemed a little too cutting edge. Not serious enough. But after seeing some of the other President’s portraits, Obama’s portrait is, sorry, growing on me. > **[George H. W. Bush](https://www.whitehousehistory.org/photos/george-h-w-bush)** > > This painting by Herbert E. Abrams is President George H. W. Bush's official portrait. He served as president from January 20, 1989 until January 20, 1993. This portrait was officially unveiled at the White... ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-not-unveiling-obama-portrait/854134/73 "2020-05-23T11:53:23Z")
I was not a fan of Obama’s portrait either – agreed that it was too edgy. ---
**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-not-unveiling-obama-portrait/854134/74 "2020-05-23T16:10:35Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > This got me looking at past portraits of Presidents. For Bush I, it is below. Looked at several sites, trying to find out who those generals are, I assume they are generals, in the background painting. One would think that would be part of the description of an offical portrait of a President. > > In any case, was not a big fan of Obama’s portrait, just seemed a little too cutting edge. Not serious enough. But after seeing some of the other President’s portraits, Obama’s portrait is, sorry, growing on me. > > [https://www.whitehousehistory.org/photos/george-h-w-bush](https://www.whitehousehistory.org/photos/george-h-w-bush) The painting in the background is [\*The Peacemakers \*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Peacemakers)by George P.A. Healy. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-not-unveiling-obama-portrait/854134/75 "2020-05-23T18:33:27Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I was not a fan of Obama’s portrait either – agreed that it was too edgy. Looks just like him, though. I’d hang it in my home. ETA: assuming he’d sign it. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-not-unveiling-obama-portrait/854134/76 "2020-05-23T20:55:26Z")
> [@SingleMalt](#): > > The painting in the background is [\*The Peacemakers \*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Peacemakers)by George P.A. Healy. Thanks. I thought it was Grant. You would think in the official sites about the portrait there would be an explanation. Just like the official description of Obama’s portrait should be- “No, he is not sitting in the outfield of Wrigley Field.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-not-unveiling-obama-portrait/854134.md?page=3)