# Trump on Golf vacation again

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 4, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-golf-vacation-again/781412 "2017-03-04T18:54:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-golf-vacation-again/781412/1 "2017-03-04T18:54:41Z")

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[Trump is off golfing in Florida again this weekend.](http://people.com/politics/trump-weekends-florida-golf-criticized-obama/) The fourth time in a month he’s gone down to Florida for a nice holiday. Seems that’s what he does now.

Of course, his golf trips now cost the taxpayer a pretty penny. $10 million dollars SO FAR. "

But whatever, right? Presidents have all gone golfing and have taken time off in the past. It’s the total and complete hypocrisy that galls.

[How many times](http://www.snopes.com/trump-obama-golf/) did Trump tweet about how horrible it was that Obama took time off or golfed? 38. 38 bitchy little tweets.

What did Trump say about what HE would do? “I’m going to be working for you. I’m not going to have time to play golf.”

Fucking Hypocrite, lying shitbag tax-dollar spending asshole.

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**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-golf-vacation-again/781412/2 "2017-03-04T19:00:28Z")

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I just went to the White House contact form and logged a complaint. Specifically, I stated that I didn’t feel this was a wise use of taxpayer dollars, and also that I thought the Presidency was essentially a 24/7 job and I really hope that didn’t come to a surprise to Trump.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-golf-vacation-again/781412/3 "2017-03-04T19:07:26Z")

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> I just went to the White House contact form and logged a complaint. Specifically, I stated that I didn’t feel this was a wise use of taxpayer dollars, and also that I thought the Presidency was essentially a 24/7 job and I really hope that didn’t come to a surprise to Trump.

Maybe ask them about the $500 thousand PER DAY that is costs to keep Trump’s estranged wife safely away from him in New York.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-golf-vacation-again/781412/4 "2017-03-04T19:31:31Z")

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> I just went to the White House contact form and logged a complaint. Specifically, I stated that I didn’t feel this was a wise use of taxpayer dollars, and also that I thought the Presidency was essentially a 24/7 job and I really hope that didn’t come to a surprise to Trump.

> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Maybe ask them about the $500 thousand PER DAY that is costs to keep Trump’s estranged wife safely away from him in New York.

This is what he wanted. Free travel, security and restrictions lifted to make more money on future investments (and current ones for the kids!). I wonder how much he’s saving on jet fuel. I still hold on to the hope that once the GOP gets as many pro-religious and anti-muslim bills passed, they declare him unfit and kick him out.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-golf-vacation-again/781412/5 "2017-03-04T20:30:13Z")

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Normally I view criticism of a President for taking time off to be incredibly lame.

But since Trump evidently ragged on Obama over vacation time, he deserves being called out for raging hypocrisy.

Not that his supporters will care.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-golf-vacation-again/781412/6 "2017-03-04T20:35:35Z")

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I’m also pissed off that MY tax dollars, in another country, are being used to [protect the little Trump boys when they go to open their PRIVATE business](http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/trump-brothers-will-travel-in-cocoon-of-u-s-secret-service-during-vancouver-visit), to make money for THEIR own family.

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> “We don’t pay for the Secret Service, that would be the Americans,” said Andre Gerolymatos, co-director of the Terrorism, Risk & Security Studies Program at Simon Fraser University.
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> However, when it comes to added costs, such as overtime for the RCMP — which is responsible for the security of so-called internationally protected persons — or Vancouver police, “we do,” Gerolymatos said.

Fuck them. They should be made to pay the overtime costs for the RCMP out of their own pockets, since this trip was **strictly for a private family business venture to make money for their own family.** Why the fuck should I pay tax money for their benefit?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-golf-vacation-again/781412/7 "2017-03-04T20:36:08Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Normally I view criticism of a President for taking time off to be incredibly lame.
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> But since Trump evidently ragged on Obama over vacation time, he deserves being called out for raging hypocrisy.
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> Not that his supporters will care.

There’s also the fact that:

1. He promised he wouldn’t have time to golf.
2. His current rate of “vacation time” cost will reach 187 million (3.6 million per trip x 52 weeks) in one year against 97 million for Obama over 8 years.

There’s also the loss of productivity time as he prepares to leave on his weekly flights to and from Mar-A-Lago. Granted, that might not be a bad thing.

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**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-golf-vacation-again/781412/8 "2017-03-04T20:43:12Z")

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Hypocrisy is par for the course

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-golf-vacation-again/781412/9 "2017-03-04T20:51:26Z")

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Trump’s fat ass makes his golf pants look YUUUGE.

Someone should let him know.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-golf-vacation-again/781412/10 "2017-03-04T20:52:14Z")

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> [@Trancephalic](#):
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> Hypocrisy is par for the course

You just scored a hole-in-one.

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**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-golf-vacation-again/781412/11 "2017-03-04T20:53:05Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Normally I view criticism of a President for taking time off to be incredibly lame.
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> But since Trump evidently ragged on Obama over vacation time, he deserves being called out for raging hypocrisy.
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> Not that his supporters will care.

Liberals wasted (and are still wasting) enormous amounts of time and effort demonstrating that their political opponents are being hypocrites. This is not useful with people who _don’t mind_ being hypocrites. Not in a “Song of Myself” sort of way, but in the gritty practical way that believing a certain thing yesterday provided a platform to strike at perceived enemies, and believing the opposite today is the most efficient way to do the same.

The golfing tab, as has been pointed out, is the small change of the damage this administration intends to inflict on the country, but it might be the only issue small enough to get in deplorable brains and begin eroding some of his support.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-golf-vacation-again/781412/12 "2017-03-04T21:09:21Z")

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> [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](#):
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> Liberals wasted (and are still wasting) enormous amounts of time and effort demonstrating that their political opponents are being hypocrites. This is not useful with people who _don’t mind_ being hypocrites. Not in a “Song of Myself” sort of way, but in the gritty practical way that believing a certain thing yesterday provided a platform to strike at perceived enemies, and believing the opposite today is the most efficient way to do the same.
> 
> The golfing tab, as has been pointed out, is the small change of the damage this administration intends to inflict on the country, but it might be the only issue small enough to get in deplorable brains and begin eroding some of his support.

I agree with your last sentence, therefore I disagree with your first sentence.

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**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-golf-vacation-again/781412/13 "2017-03-05T00:34:39Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I agree with your last sentence, therefore I disagree with your first sentence.

Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain–never mind.

But actually I don’t think there’s a contradiction there. It’s not that Trump supporters will hate or even understand the concept of hypocrisy–but they will dimly remember that “money spent playing golf=BAD!” and will react reflexively, as they were taught.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-golf-vacation-again/781412/14 "2019-07-24T04:53:06Z")

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Bumping the thread:

[Trump golf count: 198 to date](https://trumpgolfcount.com/)  
Trump golf cost to taxpayers: 106 million to date  
To repeat: Fucking Hypocrite, lying shitbag tax-dollar spending asshole.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-golf-vacation-again/781412/15 "2019-07-24T05:02:16Z")

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I support Trump in his golf playing. He does less harm to the country when he’s on a golf course then he does when he’s in the White House. He should take more time off.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-golf-vacation-again/781412/16 "2019-07-24T05:06:37Z")

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[NBC tracker](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/how-much-time-trump-spending-trump-properties-n753366):

> [@](#):
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> The NBC News digital politics team and the White House unit are tracking Trump’s visits to his properties and golf courses since his inauguration.
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> Days in office: 915  
> Days at Trump properties: 277  
> Days at golf properties: 210

I [made a post](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21732459&postcount=6643) marking Trump’s 200th day spent at one of his golf courses twenty days ago. Trump has spent ten of those past twenty days at Trump golf courses.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-golf-vacation-again/781412/17 "2019-07-24T09:21:48Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I support Trump in his golf playing. He does less harm to the country when he’s on a golf course then he does when he’s in the White House. He should take more time off.

The problem with him golfing so much is that he loves to do so at his own properties thereby enriching himself at the expense of the American taxpayer.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-golf-vacation-again/781412/18 "2019-07-24T11:08:52Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> [Trump is off golfing in Florida again this weekend.](http://people.com/politics/trump-weekends-florida-golf-criticized-obama/)  
> …  
> What did Trump say about what HE would do? “I’m going to be working for you. I’m not going to have time to play golf.”
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> Fucking Hypocrite, lying shitbag tax-dollar spending asshole.

There isn’t a single subject that Trump can be honest about. Not one. He will lie about any fucking thing he can. Needless to say, Republicans love the guy.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-golf-vacation-again/781412/19 "2019-07-24T12:07:18Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> There isn’t a single subject that Trump can be honest about. Not one. He will lie about any fucking thing he can. Needless to say, Republicans love the guy.

He fucking lied about being asked to mediate saying the guy sitting right fucking next to him asked him to mediate and the guy fucking never did. Trump is beyond pathological. He is a disease itself.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-golf-vacation-again/781412/20 "2019-07-24T13:57:39Z")

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Pakistan PM Imran Khan: would enjoy outside intervention in negotiations.

India PM Nahendra Modi: no way, Jose. Never did it, never will.

Khan was the one sitting next to Trump when he lied. Modi was in India, where he denied asking for the Vulgarian’s help within the next hour.

Not to defend Trump, but at least he didn’t lie DIRECTLY IN FRONT of the guy he was lying about. He’s pretty good at lying, that way. Lots of practice.

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