# Trump or Palin?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 22, 2016, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770 "2016-11-22T22:43:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770/21 "2016-11-23T14:24:56Z")

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One upside of Palin. Watching Kellyanne Conway, Scottie Nells Hughes and the other Trump spokesidiots try to explain the word [del]salad[/del] blender meal she spews.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770/22 "2016-11-23T14:37:56Z")

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Trump or Palin?

Firing squad or gas chamber?

Tough choices.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770/23 "2016-11-23T15:19:45Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> 50 mile wide meteor from space.
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> Just fucking put us out of our misery as a species if it ever came to that. Anything we’d do afterwards would simply be like shuffling the shuffleboard discs around on the deck of the Lusitania.

And – [/Thread]

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770/24 "2016-11-23T15:21:52Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> And – [/Thread]

Yes, that would end the thread.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770/25 "2016-11-23T15:22:15Z")

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> [@iamthewalrus\_3](#):
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> Palin.
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> She’d be out of her depth, but she’d know it.

Yes. Absolutely no question about it.

Either one would be a laughingstock. In either case the best you could hope for is for right-wing filth to run the country while the nominal Potus snoozes. Palin might be polishing herself for a mere million-dollar celebrity job while Trump tries to pilfer _billions_ of dollars, but the loss of a few extra billions of taxpayer money is irrelevant in tragedies of this scope.

The big disadvantage of Trump stems from his arrogance, insecurities and sociopathy. There is a real danger that Vladimir Putin or some other dictator(s) will gull him into acting against the West’s interests on the world stage. Even worse, he may awaken to his blunders, over-correct and precipitate a major war. Some Americans think of the Trump Presidency as a relatively harmless experiment — after 4 years America will come to its senses — but the downside risk is much MUCH greater than that.

> [@asahi](#):
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> … I would point out that Trump has one significant advantage over Palin and that is that he is mentally tougher…  
> Of course, some might argue that Palin’s lack of grit in this particular circumstance is a blessing and not a course, and I’m open to that line of argument.

Perhaps he is “tougher” in some sense: Saddam, Putin, etc. were/are very tough. I think your final sentence sums up best.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770/26 "2016-11-23T15:32:41Z")

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Palin would be the puppet of the republican congress, whereas Trump would be a co-conspirator most of the time but not an absolute puppet.

As imbecilic and hateful as the republican congress is, it is not as dangerous as Trump.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770/27 "2016-11-23T15:34:55Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> that dinosaurs and humans co-existed.

Wow, for a board that’s full of the smartest and hippest people on the planet there sure are a lot of stupids. Human and dinosaurs did and do co-exist. Ever heard of a thing called birds? Evolution, look it up sometime.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770/28 "2016-11-23T15:37:35Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Palin.
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> She’s a very dum bulb, but she managed to observe (more or less) ordinary political norms in Alaska and get elected as governor.
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> In any real comparison between politicians, she’s toast, but next to Trump she’s Margaret Thatcher.

A thousand times this.

Palin is at least a politician, and for all her weaknesses appears to have some degree of interest in improving the lot of her constituents. Trump has no interest at all in helping people or making things better.

Palin is a doofus, but she’s grow into the job and understand where she needed to get advice. Trump is a dangerous fool who might start a nuclear war.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770/29 "2016-11-23T16:07:41Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Wow, for a board that’s full of the smartest and hippest people on the planet there sure are a lot of stupids. Human and dinosaurs did and do co-exist. Ever heard of a thing called birds? Evolution, look it up sometime.

Before _you_ try to understand evolution, you should practice with a simple dictionary. If you think birds are dinosaurs, do you also think humans are fish? Do you think animals are slime molds, or even bacteria? After you answer these questions with the aid of a dictionary, reread the Wiki article on evolution with your eyes open.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770/30 "2016-11-23T16:14:17Z")

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> [@clairobscur](#):
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> Reading so many people writing “I’d rather have Palin than the current POTUS” feels quite surreal.

So true. So true. Trump feels so sad; so sad. Believe me!  
[Trump wiping tears away with his tiny little hands]

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770/31 "2016-11-23T16:19:26Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Wow, for a board that’s full of the smartest and hippest people on the planet there sure are a lot of stupids. Human and dinosaurs did and do co-exist. Ever heard of a thing called birds? Evolution, look it up sometime.

What about the Jesus Christ lizard, humans coexisted with that and that is both proof of Christianity and a living dinosaur.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770/32 "2016-11-23T16:25:06Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> **Trump or Palin?**

That’s One Sorry Kickball Team, Harry…

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770/33 "2016-11-23T16:36:58Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Wow, for a board that’s full of the smartest and hippest people on the planet there sure are a lot of stupids. Human and dinosaurs did and do co-exist. Ever heard of a thing called birds? Evolution, look it up sometime.

If you think Palin is a rock bottom moron, it could be worse. Imagine Trump vs. Drunky Smurf.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770/34 "2016-11-23T17:23:42Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> [Link to previous thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=787080).

Or [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=765324)

I find it interesting that the reality of the Trump presidency has apparently reversed the polled opinion from a year ago

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770/35 "2016-11-23T17:50:13Z")

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I’m going to swim against the very shallow stream here and pick Trump.

Let me begin by saying that neither one can be trusted to shovel shit from one place to another.

But Trump seems easily influenced by his betters and allowing them to inform his (lack of) knowledge/policy/positions. I have not seen anything in Palin that would lead me to think she has the capacity to realize she’s an idiot and allow others to do the thinking for her. She’ll dig in her cheap discount barn heels and burn the place down before admitting she’s out of her depth.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770/36 "2016-11-23T19:58:24Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Palin.
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> She’s a very dum bulb, but she managed to observe (more or less) ordinary political norms in Alaska and get elected as governor.
> 
> In any real comparison between politicians, she’s toast, but next to Trump she’s Margaret Thatcher.

This in all its glory. I agree.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770/37 "2016-11-23T19:59:30Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> Palin.
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> Both are unqualified morons. But Palin isn’t a sociopathic narcissist with authoritarian tendencies and dripping with revenge fantasies.
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> Also the level of crime and corruption under Palin would be far less.

This too.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770/38 "2016-11-23T20:22:00Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> But Trump seems easily influenced by his betters and allowing them to inform his (lack of) knowledge/policy/positions. I have not seen anything in Palin that would lead me to think she has the capacity to realize she’s an idiot and allow others to do the thinking for her. She’ll dig in her cheap discount barn heels and burn the place down before admitting she’s out of her depth.

I also vote Trump, but for different reasons: before running for POTUS (which I maintained for some time was just him trolling GOP primary voters by getting them to support the craziest shit he could think of) he was a moderate guy. Not ideal, of course, but he didn’t seem crazy back then.

Palin is either a true believer (terrifying) or just a less successful version of Trump.

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770/39 "2016-11-24T01:46:13Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> 50 mile wide meteor from space…

On a related topic, just how embarrassing would it be for our species if aliens (the space kind) showed up to say hello and learn of our culture during the next 4 years? I think I would direct them to the dolphins as the most advanced life form on the planet.

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-or-palin/772770/40 "2016-11-24T23:05:44Z")

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