# Trump pays large fine for data breach **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 26, 2016, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905 "2016-09-26T02:55:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905/1 "2016-09-26T02:55:51Z")
[https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.nydailynews.com/amp/news/politics/trump-hotels-fined-50g-credit-card-hack-warning-flub-article-1.2803639%3F0p19G%3De&ved=0ahUKEwjo\_Zzhg6zPAhUCXz4KHQ8CDN0QFgghMAI&usg=AFQjCNGiDoSvoK4RM2HVCGsZrNkL-EgPqA&sig2=59qMDCaCZP3N5DbRhNFGEg](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.nydailynews.com/amp/news/politics/trump-hotels-fined-50g-credit-card-hack-warning-flub-article-1.2803639%3F0p19G%3De&ved=0ahUKEwjo_Zzhg6zPAhUCXz4KHQ8CDN0QFgghMAI&usg=AFQjCNGiDoSvoK4RM2HVCGsZrNkL-EgPqA&sig2=59qMDCaCZP3N5DbRhNFGEg) Trump just paid a $50k fine because of lying to his customers about data breaches at his hotels. What’s with th double standard here? This basically got zero coverage, but the media talked about Hillary’s emails for years. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905/2 "2016-09-26T03:47:57Z")
Clinton’s email scandal is supposedly about national security and directly involve her actions. This is something done by some underling that Trump wouldn’t have been directly involved with and it’s purely financial. What I do find disturbing is that the mainstream media is not giving more attention to Trump’s connections to Putin and Russian money, and his advisers ties to Russia. Seem’s to me that having your President in debt for $100s of millions to foreign interests would be more of a security risk than Clinton being careless with email. ---
**Author:** ![Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pearl_Clutching_Provocateur)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905/3 "2016-09-26T05:20:39Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Clinton’s email scandal is supposedly about national security and directly involve her actions. This is something done by some underling that Trump wouldn’t have been directly involved with and it’s purely financial. > > What I do find disturbing is that the mainstream media is not giving more attention to Trump’s connections to Putin and Russian money, and his advisers ties to Russia. Seem’s to me that having your President in debt for $100s of millions to foreign interests would be more of a security risk than Clinton being careless with email. Is Russia a threat to the USA? Honestly, why are they considered enemies? Is it because they’re white and that makes it politically correct to demonize them? Last time, I check all the attacks on US soil of late have been from the Middle East like that shooting in Washington State. Trump wants to work with Russia to defeat Isis. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905/4 "2016-09-26T06:46:19Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > Is Russia a threat to the USA? Absolutefuckinglutely they are. Never forget that. > [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > Honestly, why are they considered enemies? Probably because in the past they’ve sworn they would bury all of us. (The USA) > [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > Is it because they’re white and that makes it politically correct to demonize them? No, it’s because they have, gawd knows how many, ICBM with nuclear warheads aimed at the USA. > [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > Last time, I check all the attacks on US soil of late have been from the Middle East like that shooting in Washington State. So, because no Russian has shot anyone means what again? > [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > Trump wants to work with Russia to defeat Isis. Only Trump is stupid enough to believe anyone can work with Russia to defeat anything. Russia and the US are backing different entities in that area. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905/5 "2016-09-26T07:02:01Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > Is Russia a threat to the USA? Honestly, why are they considered enemies? Is it because they’re white and that makes it politically correct to demonize them? Last time, I check all the attacks on US soil of late have been from the Middle East like that shooting in Washington State. Trump wants to work with Russia to defeat Isis. If it were anyone but Trump cozying up to Russia, his supporters would be screaming bloody murder. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905/6 "2016-09-26T07:06:09Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > Is Russia a threat to the USA? I never said they were enemies but Russia and especially Putin does not have the best interests of the US population in mind when making decisions. So yeah do you want a President who’s strings are being pulled by overseas ogliarches and autocrats? if so please explain why you are ok with this? ---
**Author:** ![Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pearl_Clutching_Provocateur)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905/7 "2016-09-26T09:31:10Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > If it were anyone but Trump cozying up to Russia, his supporters would be screaming bloody murder. The irony is that what you anti-Russian people are saying is sort of what pro-Iraq war people said. Iraq is our enemy. They’re about to attack us. Our lives are endangered. Hillary may get us into a war with Russia just to show she is strong. Wait, she got us into a war with Iraq.:eek::eek::eek: ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905/8 "2016-09-26T10:08:57Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > The irony is that what you anti-Russian people are saying is sort of what pro-Iraq war people said. No we are not, read my post above, there is a big difference between “Russia is our enemy, we should go to war with them!” and “Russia’s interests conflict with ours, so it would be bad for the US to have a President that was influenced by Russia.” Seriously you don’t get this or have a problem with it? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905/9 "2016-09-26T12:21:44Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > The irony is that what you anti-Russian people are saying is sort of what pro-Iraq war people said. Iraq is our enemy. They’re about to attack us. Our lives are endangered. Hillary may get us into a war with Russia just to show she is strong. > > **Wait, she got us into a war with Iraq.:eek::eek::eek:** So did Pence. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905/10 "2016-09-26T12:42:54Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > The irony is that what you anti-Russian people are saying is sort of what pro-Iraq war people said. Iraq is our enemy. They’re about to attack us. Our lives are endangered. Hillary may get us into a war with Russia just to show she is strong. > > Wait, she got us into a war with Iraq.:eek::eek::eek: Settle down. Clinton’s not going to get us into a war with Russia. Russia, however, may vastly complicate Syria, and by extension the Middle East. You may not know about the proxy wars of the mid-twentieth century, proxy wars between the Soviet Union and the United States that killed tens of thousands of Americans and millions of other people. If you don’t know about these wars, you should learn about them. Russia is absolutely a threat to the United States, as long as Putin or his allies are in power. We want someone in charge of the US who has a level head and a good understanding of history. Be honest, set the provocateur thing aside for a minute: which of the two major candidates do you think is likelier to deal with Russia in a wise fashion? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905/11 "2016-09-26T12:51:23Z")
We have never been at war with Eurasia. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905/12 "2016-09-26T13:01:05Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > The irony is that what you anti-Russian people are saying is sort of what pro-Iraq war people said. Iraq is our enemy. Actually, the better historical analog is that Trump wants to cozy up to Putin the way Reagan sent weapons to Iran and Iraq. No way that could ever turn out poorly, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pearl_Clutching_Provocateur)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905/13 "2016-09-26T15:33:36Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Settle down. Clinton’s not going to get us into a war with Russia. > > Russia, however, may vastly complicate Syria, and by extension the Middle East. You may not know about the proxy wars of the mid-twentieth century, proxy wars between the Soviet Union and the United States that killed tens of thousands of Americans and millions of other people. If you don’t know about these wars, you should learn about them. > > Russia is absolutely a threat to the United States, as long as Putin or his allies are in power. We want someone in charge of the US who has a level head and a good understanding of history. > > Be honest, set the provocateur thing aside for a minute: which of the two major candidates do you think is likelier to deal with Russia in a wise fashion? Middle East, Israel, American interests, yada yada yada. Trillions to fight wars over in the Middle East and not two cents protect our actual borders from actual invaders. I think a lot of Americans like myself wonder what the hell is going on. And then there are those welfare queens known as the socialist Nordic countries who can lavish their citizens with benefits and thumb their nose at the USA while demanding protection from Russia. Maybe it’s time for the USA to think of its citizens first. Make the Scandinavian countries pay for their own defense and stop being leeches. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905/14 "2016-09-26T15:35:07Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > I think a lot of Americans like myself wonder what the hell is going on. I’ve read your post three times, and I’m certainly wondering that. Why didn’t you answer the question I asked? Or is the refusal to give a straight, honest answer actually an answer? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905/15 "2016-09-26T15:35:40Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > …I think a lot of Americans like myself wonder what the hell is going on… We’ve been trying to tell you. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905/16 "2016-09-26T16:17:05Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > Middle East, Israel, American interests, yada yada yada. Trillions to fight wars over in the Middle East and not two cents protect our actual borders from actual invaders. I think a lot of Americans like myself wonder what the hell is going on. > . So you honestly think that zero dollars are being spent on actual border security. That the US doesn’t have any physical fences, patrols or electronic surveillance of the border. And this fact confuses you. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905/17 "2016-09-26T16:25:53Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > Make the Scandinavian countries pay for their own defense and stop being leeches. “We’re going to build them weapons and make them pay for it!” Good plan. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905/18 "2016-09-26T19:13:46Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > Wait, she got us into a war with Iraq.:eek::eek::eek: > [@running\_coach](#): > > So did Pence. And Trump is on record as having voiced support for the Iraq War and now, despite the recorded evidence, denies he ever did so. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905/19 "2016-09-26T19:15:42Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > And Trump is on record as having voiced support for the Iraq War and now, despite the recorded evidence, denies he ever did so. Trump is not used to having His Word questioned. As the leader of a business, whatever he says last is The Truth, and must be followed. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905/20 "2016-09-26T19:26:14Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > We’ve been trying to tell you. Unless its a whoosh, in which case we’ve all been victims of… The Trumpeter Con… 😃 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pays-large-fine-for-data-breach/766905.md?page=2)