# Trump Pit Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 14, 2016, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959 "2016-03-14T09:23:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/201 "2016-03-21T03:25:06Z")
Hey, if the Democrats are going to put up their worst candidate in recent memory it’s really decent of the Republicans to do likewise. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/202 "2016-03-21T03:36:33Z")
> [@jerry\_smissingfinger](#): > > Here is the U.S “leader of the free world” and we can not even be professional and allow the democratic process to take place without all this chaos. 😕 But chaos is an intrinsic **part** of the “democratic process”. Do we as a nation think less of other democracies when they have noisy public disputes over political candidates and issues? Personally, I know I don’t. On the contrary, if I see a bunch of racist assholes yelling for attention in another country, I’m relieved to see that protesters are publicly challenging their views, as in the case of last year’s [Sweden protests](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/racist-advert-for-far-right-sweden-democrats-on-stockholm-metro-prompts-huge-protest-10438016.html). (And also as in that case, that doesn’t mean that I necessarily approve of protesters breaking laws. But that’s not the same as condemning the “chaos” of direct public protest altogether, which seems to be your position.) **Behaving in a “professional” manner is supposed to be the job of the candidates, not the voters.** ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/203 "2016-03-21T04:27:47Z")
> [@jerry\_smissingfinger](#): > > \*\*Pretty much do based on your responses. People like me enrage you because we may question you or have a different point of view. You were phishing for conflict is my guess. So you took offense to the video and article I posted, so did I. > > Here is the U.S “leader of the free world” and we can not even be professional and allow the democratic process to take place without all this chaos. What message is that sending to the rest of the world? Instability and weakness should be the words in your head right now.\*\* So your objection to peaceful protests is that they make us weaker in the eyes of the world? Interesting perspective. I’m under the impression that peaceful protest is one of the things that people actually like about American politics. Try and imagine where the Civil Rights movement would be without them, for example. > [@](#): > > **I wonder how many folks stuck on that highway trying to carry on with their lives would agree with the system you support?** Yes, yes, it was annoying I am certain. And I know from traffic, what with the Bay Area and LA as my proving grounds. Trump supporters behind the blockages were probably royally ticked. Everyone else - who knows. It did make the news and it did make the point that people are not happy with Trump. > [@](#): > > **Go to the polls and vote, there is your answer** True that. If civil disobedience isn’t your thing, then apparently your path is clear. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/204 "2016-03-21T04:40:19Z")
> [@jerry\_smissingfinger](#): > > Pretty much do based on your responses. People like me enrage you because we may question you or have a different point of view. Entirely incorrect in every single particular. > [@](#): > > You were phishing for conflict is my guess. Also wrong. > [@](#): > > So you took offense to the video and article I posted, so did I. Nope. You’re doing even worse than my NCAA tournament bracket right now, and that’s saying something. > [@](#): > > Here is the U.S “leader of the free world” and we can not even be professional and allow the democratic process to take place without all this chaos. What message is that sending to the rest of the world? Instability and weakness should be the words in your head right now. This is…fascinating. Bizarre and arguably inane…but definitely fascinating. Do go on. > [@](#): > > I wonder how many folks stuck on that highway trying to carry on with their lives would agree with the system you support? “The system I support?” Peaceful assembly, protest, and civil disobedience? Or the legal system, which allows protesters to be removed when they break the law–which they were–and charged if necessary–which they were? Do you not agree with my support of the legal system and rule of law? Honestly, I haven’t the faintest idea what you’re on about here. ---
**Author:** ![jerry\_smissingfinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e56c9b/32.png) [@jerry\_smissingfinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jerry_smissingfinger)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/205 "2016-03-21T15:41:10Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > So your objection to peaceful protests is that they make us weaker in the eyes of the world? Interesting perspective. I’m under the impression that peaceful protest is one of the things that people actually like about American politics. Try and imagine where the Civil Rights movement would be without them, for example. > \*Right on, but I don’t believe I said anything about peaceful protest(two different things) I am certainly not against civil disobedience as I agree that this is how progress is made. The civil rights movement is a perfect example of that. In fact I have been involved in some civil disobedience protesting for Veterans rights / VA issues in DC so I have been on both sides. Still fighting that one and will continue to do so. > > I also went down to check out an Occupy movement and do some video. I happened to run into a lady who offered me a job to head to Denver with the movement without knowing anything about me, paid protester if you will. We all know that people with Ill intention are supporting these movements and that’s unfortunate for the rest.\* > Yes, yes, it was annoying I am certain. And I know from traffic, what with the Bay Area and LA as my proving grounds. Trump supporters behind the blockages were probably royally ticked. Everyone else - who knows. It did make the news and it did make the point that people are not happy with Trump. > \*S.W.A.T gassed , shot rubber bullets and launched flash grenades at protester in St. Louis when protesters shut down interstate 70. It was applauded by the media and residence. Glad AZ police did not choose that route. Just saying that if shutting down an interstate is going to be a technique the residence will not sympathize with them. > \* > _I believe most of these protest are having a reverse effect. Trump is certainly enjoying the extra press coverage and using it to his advantage. This is taking away from any of the candidates messages. All we hear about anymore is the last clash between protesters and dirty laundry_ > True that. If civil disobedience isn’t your thing, then apparently your path is clear. \*In summary I do support movements of civil disobedience. Do your thing if that’s your calling, I certainly have. \* ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/206 "2016-03-21T16:09:56Z")
Dude, multi-quoting is not that hard. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/207 "2016-03-21T16:35:04Z")
Apparently it is when you’re missing a finger. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/208 "2016-03-21T16:37:55Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Dude, multi-quoting is not that hard. Give him a break. He’s missing significant parts of his brain. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/209 "2016-03-21T16:38:12Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Dude, multi-quoting is not that hard. > [@Kimballkid](#): > > Apparently it is when you’re missing a finger. Look at the username. It’s _only_ a finger. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/210 "2016-03-21T16:51:39Z")
The world needs rebalancing. With a non-Trump president, US public debt will increase to probably $25tn in 5 years. I am looking at a possible disruption in world order if Trump becomes prez. Why should Americans have all the world working for them as cheap labour when unofficial jobless rates there are as high as 25-30% and with so many people on welfare? Concerns against Trump may well prove to be blown out of proportion… He is a smart guy. he can’t directly say he will away some welfare from the unworthy people. He is very intelligent. He will say what works - like about jobs, to appeal to blue collar worker base. From what we have seen in India, I think many would agree that most politicians are good-for-nothing. In USA as well, it could be similar. So Trump insulting them is not a problem IMO. It helps if some of these politicians had smaller egos. Now that Rubio is out, you won’t see him calling little Rubio. He will treat him with respect. Trump is smart. the fear abt racism is unfounded. There is fear mongering going on I think. One or two bad incidents might be there. These stray incidents are also there since immigrants vote democrat. Muslim ban - I oppose. But it’s America’s right. Upto Muslims to abandon Islam if they want to settle in USA if it’s indeed banned. thing is I don’t prefer the status quo - the US being 25% of global GDP and just 4.5% of world population, oil being traded in USD, 88% of global trade happening in USD. Current age of information(android phones , broadband) is the age of equality. There shouldn’t be so much inequality among nations as well. Ideal scenario would be that 1.) the US itself closes the door on Indians/Chinese (trade barriers, visa bans etc) so that they can start to look inwards rather than at the developed world 2.) The crash of the petro dollar coz Muslims don’t like Trump, hopefully they won’t trade oil for dollars anymore. Funny thing is my own brother’s employer has applied for H1B for him (results to be out in June maybe) and yet I support Trump. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/211 "2016-03-21T16:54:00Z")
This forum is way too left leaning to appreciate what Trump actually stands for. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/212 "2016-03-21T16:55:06Z")
We can certainly understand worry being turned to fear, fear into anger, and anger into votes. Any hack pol can do that. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/213 "2016-03-21T16:55:49Z")
Nobody knows what Trump stands for, other than Trump. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/214 "2016-03-21T16:57:22Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > This forum is way too left leaning to appreciate what Trump actually stands for. So explain rather than being smug. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/215 "2016-03-21T17:05:48Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > This forum is way too left leaning to appreciate what Trump actually stands for. Ok, maybe you can be brave enough to take a simple test: Watch this Trump Clip. > **[As Election Year Unfolds, Climate Concern Rises](https://thinc.blog/2016/03/17/as-election-year-unfolds-climate-concern-rises/)** > > Gallup: Americans are taking global warming more seriously than at any time in the past eight years, according to several measures in Gallup’s annual environment poll. Most emblematic is the … Read then what science and even most of the public thinks about the issue: > **[As Election Year Unfolds, Climate Concern Rises](https://thinc.blog/2016/03/17/as-election-year-unfolds-climate-concern-rises/)** > > Gallup: Americans are taking global warming more seriously than at any time in the past eight years, according to several measures in Gallup’s annual environment poll. Most emblematic is the … Unless you are not really seeking truth that is, the facts are that Trump and followers continue to live in a fantasy world, and are willing to play with the future of the world economy by denying science. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/216 "2016-03-21T17:07:53Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > So explain rather than being smug. I tried explaining in the previous post. If there’s one thing that life has taught me, then that is its totally useless to have an ego. So don’t accuse me of being smug pls. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/217 "2016-03-21T17:10:04Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > Apparently it is when you’re missing a finger. Hey, why don’t we all chip in and give him one? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/218 "2016-03-21T17:10:45Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > The world needs rebalancing. With a non-Trump president, US public debt will increase to probably $25tn in 5 years. Under Clinton we had a surplus, and under Obama the deficient has gone down considerably. What makes you think Trump will be successful in managing the budget? Don’t say “because he’s a smart businessman.” I acknowledge he is good at self-promotion, but that’s not a significant part of the President’s job. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/219 "2016-03-21T17:18:09Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Ok, maybe you can be brave enough to take a simple test: > > Watch this Trump Clip. > > [As Election Year Unfolds, Climate Concern Rises – This is Not Cool](http://climatecrocks.com/2016/03/17/as-election-year-unfolds-climate-concern-rises/#comment-81896) > > Read then what science and even most of the public thinks about the issue: > > [As Election Year Unfolds, Climate Concern Rises – This is Not Cool](http://climatecrocks.com/2016/03/17/as-election-year-unfolds-climate-concern-rises/) > > Unless you are not really seeking truth that is, the facts are that Trump and followers continue to live in a fantasy world, and are willing to play with the future of the world economy by denying science. Problem is he looks at things from economic viability point of view. Which is why he agrees with climate change but not with man-made global warming . lol . either Trump is dishonest here or hasn’t done his homework here. You are right on this point imo. I disagree with Trump on this one. I should have mentioned this point in the longer post. China has already been doing very well producing very cheap solar power btw. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/220 "2016-03-21T17:21:44Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > If there’s one thing that life has taught me, then that is its totally useless to have an ego. When your zen journey of ego-rejection leads you to admire Donald Trump, I think you made a serious wrong turn somewhere. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959.md?page=12)