# Trump Pit Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 14, 2016, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959 "2016-03-14T09:23:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/241 "2016-03-21T22:32:22Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Your words before that were just rambling and confusing, even I can tell that. You should take into account that English is my second language, so I guess I will tell my students that they should not bother then to learn proper English considering how superior you are. (“U”? :rolleyes:) (Most of my students were born here anyhow, but their parents speak mostly Spanish; still, they write better that you.) Read again brother. It should make sense. I want people to ditch dollar and look at other means of trade as well (88% of global trade happens in USD today). If they ditch dollar, the dollar loses strength. The US also can help by Anti-immigration policies. That will help countries/people to get disenchanted faster. ---
**Author:** ![jerry\_smissingfinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e56c9b/32.png) [@jerry\_smissingfinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jerry_smissingfinger)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/242 "2016-03-21T22:41:42Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > If you don’t want to be ridiculed, then stay out of the fucking Pit, you wanker. Stop whining about how people are so mean to you. Try to put three fucking coherent words together. Dumbass. > > There’s absolutely nothing lamer than an idiot who comes into the Pit, says moronic things, and then starts crying about how people just want to make fun of him. Nice Sorry to bust up your gangs little hate party there mister moderator. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/243 "2016-03-21T23:03:02Z")
Short timer. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/244 "2016-03-21T23:58:36Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Read again brother. It should make sense. Lots of magical thinking, and for that magic to work you have to ignore a lot of the inhumane reasons why one should not just follow what you propose. Really, why should the Muslims that do think that democracy is an idea that deserves to risk one’s life only gets them the very same countries that advocate for more democracy to close their doors to the people that followed our ideals? The disenchantment you wish is not the one that you will get. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/245 "2016-03-22T00:16:54Z")
> [@jerry\_smissingfinger](#): > > Nice > > Sorry to bust up your gangs little hate party there mister moderator. Again, I expected a vet to have a thicker skin. You keep on being wrong, but apparently it makes you feel better to believe that you’re some sort of martyr. How’s that going for you? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/246 "2016-03-22T00:19:03Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > It should make sense. I agree. And yet… ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/247 "2016-03-22T00:23:09Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > He stands for anti-immigrant nativism, economic protectionism, preserving the kinds of entitlements (SS and Medicare) that benefit middle- and working-class white people, a full-auto aggressive foreign policy, and low taxes on the rich. Have I missed anything? Yes. The [strengthening of libel laws](http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/02/donald-trump-libel-laws-219866)–specifically so people can’t criticize him so much. I usually state it as “reducing freedom of speech” to try and get the anti-PC crowd to give a shit. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/248 "2016-03-22T01:35:52Z")
> [@jerry\_smissingfinger](#): > > Cause that’s what they do here. > > Tell you how wrong you are, but can not support their ideas with anything but ridicule. > > They want you to support your argument but fail to support theirs. > > Right or wrong you laid it out there for them and still:smack: The fact that you cannot read for comprehension does not mean that your “ideas” have not been debated. Added bonus: this is the Pit, where we get to call you names too. Dumbass. > [@truthSeeker2](#): > > U can accuse China of economic protectionism cause it has massive surpluses and yet keeps currency devalued. > > I want countries like India, China to focus inwards for a while. Outsiders see the US as beautiful vast land of freedom, opportunity, universal English language that everyone speaks, with beautiful diverse people etc etc. queueing up for visas and for buying assets in the US. This is an age of information(android phones, broadband) and of equality (USA has disproportionate notional wealth due to stronger currency). Anti-immigration policies may be good in this respect for some time. I have no idea which side you are attempting to support here. Are you isolationist, but “shining city on a hill”? Everyone should love us, but no one can come here? WTF does cell phone use have to do with this? And do you have even a basic understanding of how currency works? > [@](#): > > Islam is a poison and that’s a fact. Saudi Arabia is a worst medieval country. It is also likely the US has been ultra selfish and has been creating all these wars to save the petrodollar. Trump has irked Muslim nations (by speaking of banning Muslims), he is for energy independence as well and so, it seems he doesn’t care for the end of petrodollar. Foreign policy also has clarity. Not working anti-assad and anti-isis at the same time. > > I want the end of petrodollar, the end of sole reserve currency status for dollar, big crash in the value of dollar, the US not being able to afford large trade deficit or public debt to gdp ratio etc… Word. Salad. > [@jerry\_smissingfinger](#): > > And yet to agree with someone is considered a problem? Keep on hatin bro > > Yes banks are bad mmmkay? You agreed with someone? And for the love of all that’s holy, read your posts for clarity BEFORE you post. > [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Read again brother. It should make sense. I want people to ditch dollar and look at other means of trade as well (88% of global trade happens in USD today). If they ditch dollar, the dollar loses strength. > > The US also can help by Anti-immigration policies. That will help countries/people to get disenchanted faster. Oh, it _should make sense_. It just doesn’t. Are you arguing that the US should de-value it’s own currency because then we’ll be less awesome? Or something? Fuck that noise. > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Short timer. Looking at the Join Dates, that time is taking longer than we thought. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/249 "2016-03-22T02:05:38Z")
The term also refers to how much time one has _left_. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/250 "2016-03-22T03:10:48Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by truthSeeker2 View Post > I want the end of petrodollar, the end of sole reserve currency status for dollar, big crash in the value of dollar, the US not being able to afford large trade deficit or public debt to gdp ratio etc You’re just salivating at the thought of people losing their jobs, their homes, their savings accounts, and can’t wait till there are people starving. Right? ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/251 "2016-03-22T03:26:23Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > The fact that you cannot read for comprehension does not mean that your “ideas” have not been debated. Added bonus: this is the Pit, where we get to call you names too. Dumbass. > > I have no idea which side you are attempting to support here. Are you isolationist, but “shining city on a hill”? Everyone should love us, but no one can come here? WTF does cell phone use have to do with this? And do you have even a basic understanding of how currency works? > > Word. Salad. > > You agreed with someone? And for the love of all that’s holy, read your posts for clarity BEFORE you post. > > Oh, it _should make sense_. It just doesn’t. Are you arguing that the US should de-value it’s own currency because then we’ll be less awesome? Or something? Fuck that noise. > > Looking at the Join Dates, that time is taking longer than we thought. USA is actually naked with its rapidly growing public debt , far greater unofficial unemployment and very large trade deficit. 2 things are helping it from getting exposed - petrodollar (reserve currency status), and it’s charm (mentioned in post#232). Once it does get exposed, the world will be far more equal and countries/people will be able to prioritize far better I promise. Cheap smartphone and broadband represent empowerment of every individual. People(including myself) may have earlier thought the USA rightly enjoys a premium coz it’s the innovation capital of the world. Not anymore, since individuals of poorer nations have been empowered as much as any US citizen capable of inventing such wonderful innovations. It may need a deeper thought. I think people should take some time thinking over this post. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/252 "2016-03-22T03:39:38Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > USA is actually naked with its rapidly growing public debt , \*\*far greater unofficial unemployment \*\*and very large trade deficit. And just what would that be and it’s source? ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/253 "2016-03-22T03:48:08Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > And just what would that be and it’s source? the number of people on food stamps and other welfare? ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/254 "2016-03-22T03:51:41Z")
^Include the number of people who made a fortune doing nothing like through inheritance or through a rigged stock market etc. Lol ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/255 "2016-03-22T04:00:33Z")
If USA was today 80% black, people suddenly won’t be interested in making goods for the US or trading in USD This is a sad reality of this world not some hypothesis so all the people accusing Trump of being racist (he isn’t) must know the world is much much more racist. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/256 "2016-03-22T04:02:50Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > the number of people on food stamps and other welfare? Depending on circumstances, food stamps can be had even if employed. Still haven’t cited a source or actual numbers. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/257 "2016-03-22T04:14:04Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > It may need a deeper thought. I think people should take some time thinking over this post. > [@truthSeeker2](#): > > If USA was today 80% black, people suddenly won’t be interested in making goods for the US or trading in USD > > This is a sad reality of this world not some hypothesis > > so all the people accusing Trump of being racist (he isn’t) must know the world is much much more racist. Let me think about your thought… All right, a second is good enough, you are only a racist with typing diarrhea. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/258 "2016-03-22T04:18:17Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > If USA was today 80% black, people suddenly won’t be interested in making goods for the US or trading in USD Why not? ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/259 "2016-03-22T04:18:57Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Let me think about your thought… All right, a second is good enough, you are only a racist with typing diarrhea. Sure, I am a racist who doesn’t even believe in ‘race’. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/260 "2016-03-22T04:22:55Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Why not? color of the skin matters for the world. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959.md?page=14)