# Trump Pit Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 14, 2016, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959 "2016-03-14T09:23:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/261 "2016-03-22T04:23:25Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > U can accuse China of economic protectionism cause it has massive surpluses and yet keeps currency devalued. . . . Non-responsive. Even if that is true, how does it make Trump **not** a protectionist, nativist, etc.? > [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Islam is a poison and that’s a fact. Islam is not going away and **that’s** a fact. Today, one human being in five is a Muslim. 100 years ago, one human being in five was a Muslim. 100 years from now, one human being in five will be a Muslim. The infidel world just has to deal with that. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/262 "2016-03-22T04:28:45Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > USA is actually naked with its rapidly growing public debt , far greater unofficial unemployment and very large trade deficit. > > 2 things are helping it from getting exposed - petrodollar (reserve currency status), and it’s charm (mentioned in post#232). > > Once it does get exposed, the world will be far more equal and countries/people will be able to prioritize far better I promise. And that’s why we should elect Trump? ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/263 "2016-03-22T04:30:02Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Non-responsive. Even if that is true, how does it make Trump **not** a protectionist, nativist, etc.? Either u lose or u can fight it with protectionism of ur own which would be considered fair in this case. Actually most the world already has big antidumping duty on Chinese steel that’s considered fair as well ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/264 "2016-03-22T04:32:25Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Sure, I am a racist who doesn’t even believe in ‘race’. So if blacks do not exist who are the ones that you are putting in that 80%? ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/265 "2016-03-22T04:40:43Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > So if blacks do not exist who are the ones that you are putting in that 80%? People who have black skin? I am neither racist ( dont believe in any ‘race’ having any advantageous or disadvantageous intellectual traits) nor color blind lol How else could I explain the reality of the mindset of the world we live in? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/266 "2016-03-22T04:50:32Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > If USA was today 80% black, people suddenly won’t be interested in making goods for the US or trading in USD A truly idiotic post, considering the increasing trade of China with Africa in recent decades. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/267 "2016-03-22T06:09:11Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > USA is actually naked with its rapidly growing public debt Proof once again that everyone who is utterly convinced that sovereign debt is inherently bad is a complete and utter ignoramus, and likely possessed of other ignorant and/or hateful ideas. > [@](#): > > It may need a deeper thought. I think people should take some time thinking over this post. Sorry, no. Your ideas are tired re-hashed versions of the Cult of Norquist and badly-hidden crypto-racism. They’re dumped in massive job lots on unsuspecting fora across the Internet, and are just as stupid in any language or transposed into any culture’s equivalent of economically-illiterate racist demagoguery. You cannot formulate solutions because you do not understand the problems, and you cannot understand the problems because the problems refuse to resolve themselves into government spending and people who look different from you. The problems are, instead, actual long-standing hatreds and irrational prejudices which you have swallowed wholesale, and which have been fed to you as part of a profit-making enterprise to convince you your best interests lie with the party which is structurally incapable of proposing any policy other than reducing the top marginal income tax rate, reducing regulations which harm profitability, and making it easier to harass and deport the cheap labor. You’re a drone. You’re so disconnected from reality you are living in a Baudrillardian Hell into which no accurate information can filter without first being wrapped up tight in so much faulty analysis it loses its essential character and becomes yet another element of the lie. You are, in short, a member of the fighting ignorant, and therefore represent a major reason the GOP is about to drive off a cliff. I’d salute you if it wasn’t for all the poison you’ve voted for, and into office. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/268 "2016-03-22T07:53:34Z")
Its like twenty or thirty varieties of political/economic theory chopped up, tossed and served with ranch dressing. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/269 "2016-03-22T08:03:13Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > Proof once again that everyone who is utterly convinced that sovereign debt is inherently bad is a complete and utter ignoramus, and likely possessed of other ignorant and/or hateful ideas. > > Sorry, no. Your ideas are tired re-hashed versions of the Cult of Norquist and badly-hidden crypto-racism. They’re dumped in massive job lots on unsuspecting fora across the Internet, and are just as stupid in any language or transposed into any culture’s equivalent of economically-illiterate racist demagoguery. You cannot formulate solutions because you do not understand the problems, and you cannot understand the problems because the problems refuse to resolve themselves into government spending and people who look different from you. The problems are, instead, actual long-standing hatreds and irrational prejudices which you have swallowed wholesale, and which have been fed to you as part of a profit-making enterprise to convince you your best interests lie with the party which is structurally incapable of proposing any policy other than reducing the top marginal income tax rate, reducing regulations which harm profitability, and making it easier to harass and deport the cheap labor. > > You’re a drone. You’re so disconnected from reality you are living in a Baudrillardian Hell into which no accurate information can filter without first being wrapped up tight in so much faulty analysis it loses its essential character and becomes yet another element of the lie. You are, in short, a member of the fighting ignorant, and therefore represent a major reason the GOP is about to drive off a cliff. I’d salute you if it wasn’t for all the poison you’ve voted for, and into office. God bless. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/270 "2016-03-22T08:10:45Z")
What a classy way to bid farewell! Succinct, evocative, and brief. I doubt you could ever improve upon it! ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/271 "2016-03-22T08:12:58Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > What a classy way to bid farewell! Succinct, evocative, and brief. I doubt you could ever improve upon it! I don’t have the time for a hate by hate…sorry, point by point response. Lol. So he wins. Be happy. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/272 "2016-03-22T11:37:21Z")
Godwin’s Corollary: When an internet discussion devolves to the point where one party uses “lol” as a retort, the argument is over. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/273 "2016-03-22T11:40:06Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Read again brother. It should make sense. I want people to ditch dollar and look at other means of trade as well (88% of global trade happens in USD today). If they ditch dollar, the dollar loses strength. > > The US also can help by Anti-immigration policies. That will help countries/people to get disenchanted faster. So . . . a cornerstone of Trump’s so-called “Make America Great Again” plan should be to make America _look_ “not so great” any more? Your ideas intrigue. Earlier, you said to look for a $25tn public debt within a few years under a non-Trump presidency. How big do you think it would be under a Trump presidency? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/274 "2016-03-22T11:51:27Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > Proof once again that everyone who is utterly convinced that sovereign debt is inherently bad is a complete and utter ignoramus, and likely possessed of other ignorant and/or hateful ideas. > > Sorry, no. Your ideas are tired re-hashed versions of the Cult of Norquist and badly-hidden crypto-racism. They’re dumped in massive job lots on unsuspecting fora across the Internet, and are just as stupid in any language or transposed into any culture’s equivalent of economically-illiterate racist demagoguery. You cannot formulate solutions because you do not understand the problems, and you cannot understand the problems because the problems refuse to resolve themselves into government spending and people who look different from you. The problems are, instead, actual long-standing hatreds and irrational prejudices which you have swallowed wholesale, and which have been fed to you as part of a profit-making enterprise to convince you your best interests lie with the party which is structurally incapable of proposing any policy other than reducing the top marginal income tax rate, reducing regulations which harm profitability, and making it easier to harass and deport the cheap labor. > > You’re a drone. You’re so disconnected from reality you are living in a Baudrillardian Hell into which no accurate information can filter without first being wrapped up tight in so much faulty analysis it loses its essential character and becomes yet another element of the lie. You are, in short, a member of the fighting ignorant, and therefore represent a major reason the GOP is about to drive off a cliff. I’d salute you if it wasn’t for all the poison you’ve voted for, and into office. I may be mistaken, but my contextual reading appears to put **truthSeeker2** in India, and as a citizen of that nation. If I’m correct, he hasn’t done any actual voting for the GOP. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/275 "2016-03-22T14:07:34Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > color of the skin matters for the world. Only when you have to deal with people – not with the products they make. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/276 "2016-03-22T14:15:45Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > People who have black skin? Nah, you’ll find such in southern **India,** but those are irrelevant to any discussion of race relations between Euro-Americans and African-Americans. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/277 "2016-03-22T15:27:52Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > The term also refers to how much time one has _left_. Fair enough. Need more coffee. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/278 "2016-03-22T16:02:12Z")
> [@jerry\_smissingfinger](#): > > Nice > > Sorry to bust up your gangs little hate party there mister moderator. For the record, I’m posting here as a poster and not as a moderator. If I were posting as a moderator I would indicate it. I fail to see how you have “busted up” anything. And if calling you a wanker makes you lose your shit, you definitely don’t belong in this forum. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/279 "2016-03-22T16:49:48Z")
> [@jerry\_smissingfinger](#): > > Nice > > Sorry to bust up your gangs little hate party there mister moderator. It might be worth your time to learn a bit more about the rules of this board, and also to learn a bit about the correct use of contractions. > [@Colibri](#): > > I fail to see how you have “busted up” anything. And if calling you a wanker makes you lose your shit, you definitely don’t belong in this forum. No kidding. What a fucking imbecile. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/280 "2016-03-22T18:12:16Z")
> [@jerry\_smissingfinger](#): > > Sorry to bust up your gangs little hate party there mister moderator. A Pit thread is a hate party, that is the point of it. You want something else, go to GD or Elections. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959.md?page=15)