# Trump Pit Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 14, 2016, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959 "2016-03-14T09:23:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/281 "2016-03-22T18:47:14Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Either u lose or u can fight it with protectionism of ur own which would be considered fair in this case. Actually most the world already has big antidumping duty on Chinese steel that’s considered fair as well Are we texting our posts now on the Dope? 2 instances of using “u” instead of “you”, 1 instance of using “ur” instead of “your” and then the second sentence isn’t punctuated (and that doesn’t even begin to account the missing indefinite and definite articles). Why is anyone even bothering to reply to this idiot? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/282 "2016-03-22T19:05:12Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Are we texting our posts now on the Dope? > > 2 instances of using “u” instead of “you”, 1 instance of using “ur” instead of “your” and then the second sentence isn’t punctuated (and that doesn’t even begin to account the missing indefinite and definite articles). > > Why is anyone even bothering to reply to this idiot? Because many Dopers are not native speakers of English; we’ve learned to tolerate a wide range of errors. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/283 "2016-03-22T19:30:33Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Why is anyone even bothering to reply to this idiot? Probably much the same impulse as chipping rocks at the rats down at the garbage dump.😉 ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/284 "2016-03-22T19:34:59Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > …and also to learn a bit about the correct use of contractions. Gaudere’s Law in action. I meant “correct use of possessives”! And also punctuation in general! There were no contractions in the post I quoted. ---
**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/285 "2016-03-22T19:57:01Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Because many Dopers are not native speakers of English; we’ve learned to tolerate a wide range of errors. If they aren’t native English speakers I would highly doubt they are fans of Donald Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/286 "2016-03-22T20:34:11Z")
> [@Grsz11](#): > > If they aren’t native English speakers I would highly doubt they are fans of Donald Trump. Au contraire. A Trump presidency would bring America down a few pegs; a boon for non-Native English speakers all over the world. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/287 "2016-03-22T21:20:31Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Probably much the same impulse as chipping rocks at the rats down at the garbage dump.😉 That’s quality entertainment! Good for a whole afternoon of healthy, clean exercise! > [@Knorf](#): > > . . . There were no contractions in the post I quoted. I was wondering if a possessive counted as a contraction. “John’s” is short for “John, his.” Maybe not. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/288 "2016-03-22T23:00:47Z")
Getting back to Mr. Trump for just a minute, he and Ted Cruz seem to be competing, in the wake of the Brussels bombings, to see _qui est mas macho_: Mr. Trump has (unsurprisingly) reiterated his calls for torture of terrorism suspects and a ban on Muslims entering the US: [http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/22/warning-of-u-s-attacks-donald-trump-advocates-allowing-torture/](http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/22/warning-of-u-s-attacks-donald-trump-advocates-allowing-torture/) …while Mr. Cruz, not to be outdone, has demanded that law enforcement “patrol and secure” muslim neighborhoods, whatever that may mean: [http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/22/ted-cruzs-call-to-secure-muslim-neighborhoods-stirs-a-backlash/](http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/22/ted-cruzs-call-to-secure-muslim-neighborhoods-stirs-a-backlash/) Hey, other countries. You feel you need a head of state who will kick ass and take names? They’re yours. No charge. Take them. Please. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/289 "2016-03-22T23:14:19Z")
Hasn’t Rafe noticed that there are few Muslim neighborhoods in the US and that Muslims can, and do, live most anywhere? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/290 "2016-03-22T23:18:40Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Hasn’t Rafe noticed that there are few Muslim neighborhoods in the US and that Muslims can, and do, live most anywhere? Just wait until he’s President. There will be Muslim neighborhoods. Most likely with walls. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/291 "2016-03-22T23:30:17Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Getting back to Mr. Trump for just a minute, he and Ted Cruz seem to be competing, in the wake of the Brussels bombings, to see _qui est mas macho_: _Quien es mas macho_. Yours is a strange melange of Latin and Spanish. 🙂 _Creo que Senior Trump es mas macho_. But compared to Sr. Cruz, that don’t mean much! Shut the border! Jail the Muslims! Bomb the Syrians! Are we in for a whirl wind campaign season!! ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/292 "2016-03-22T23:37:06Z")
Or: _As the Stomach Turns_. (With thanks — and apologies — to Carol Burnett.) ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/293 "2016-03-22T23:43:13Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Just wait until he’s President. There will be Muslim neighborhoods. Most likely with walls. And they’ll all have to wear crescents so we’ll be able to recognize them. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/294 "2016-03-22T23:51:38Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > _Quien es mas macho_. Yours is a strange melange of Latin and Spanish. 🙂 > > _Creo que Senior Trump es mas macho_. But compared to Sr. Cruz, that don’t mean much! _Pero Hillary Rodham y Clinton es mas macho de todos!_ ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/295 "2016-03-23T00:01:35Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Getting back to Mr. Trump for just a minute, he and Ted Cruz seem to be competing, in the wake of the Brussels bombings, to see _qui est mas macho_: > [@John\_Mace](#): > > _Quien es mas macho_. Yours is a strange melange of Latin and Spanish. 🙂 > > _Creo que Senior Trump es mas macho_. But compared to Sr. Cruz, that don’t mean much! > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > _Pero Hillary Rodham y Clinton es mas macho de todos!_ Light bulb, or school bus? ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/296 "2016-03-23T00:24:36Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Just wait until he’s President. There will be Muslim neighborhoods. Most likely with walls. With great public transportation! Aren’t liberals always going on and on about public transportation? We’ll have uber-efficient rail transport to and from these new settlements. Well, _to_, at least. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/297 "2016-03-23T02:38:53Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > I was wondering if a possessive counted as a contraction. “John’s” is short for “John, his.” Maybe not. No. It goes back to Old English case marking, in this case the marker -es used to form the genitive singular of most strong declension nouns, and the masculine and neuter genitive singular of strong adjectives. (Old English had a rather interesting grammar.) That “his” stuff is folk etymology from the Sixteenth Century. It’s ignorant of the actual linguistic history. > **[English possessive](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_possessive)** > > In English, possessive words or phrases exist for nouns and most pronouns, as well as some noun phrases. These can play the roles of determiners (also called possessive adjectives when corresponding to a pronoun) or of nouns. > For nouns, noun phrases, and some pronouns, the possessive is generally formed with the suffix -'s, but in some cases just with the addition of an apostrophe to an existing s. This form is sometimes called the Saxon genitive, reflecting the suffix's derivation from Old Engl... To answer your question: It isn’t a contraction, it’s a clitic; specifically, a genitive clitic. (The Republicans want to defund those now.) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/298 "2016-03-23T02:52:05Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > …it’s a clitic; specifically, a genitive clitic… I want to take a moment to commend the maturity and good taste of my fellow Dopers for steadfast refusal of this straight line. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/299 "2016-03-23T03:28:26Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Just wait until he’s President. There will be Muslim neighborhoods. Most likely with walls. And he’ll make those Muslims pay for that wall! ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/300 "2016-03-23T03:35:28Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > . . . a genitive clitic. . . . > [@elucidator](#): > > I want to take a moment to commend the maturity and good taste of my fellow Dopers for steadfast refusal of this straight line. Us? Maturity and restraint? Lick my clitic! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959.md?page=16)