# Trump Pit Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 14, 2016, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959 "2016-03-14T09:23:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/301 "2016-03-23T03:53:15Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Light bulb, or school bus? 😕 . . . I’ll take “Light Bulb” for $200, Alex. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/302 "2016-03-23T04:01:09Z")
[Trump threatens to ‘spill the beans’ on Cruz’s wife amid challenge to debate on ‘O’Reilly Factor’](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/trump-threatens-to-spill-the-beans-on-cruzs-wife-amid-challenge-to-debate-on-oreilly-factor/). Trump is determined to slander, extort, and blackmail his way to the Oval Office. (Of course, he doesn’t say what dirt he has on Cruz’s wife.) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/303 "2016-03-23T04:08:46Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > [Trump threatens to ‘spill the beans’ on Cruz’s wife amid challenge to debate on ‘O’Reilly Factor’](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/trump-threatens-to-spill-the-beans-on-cruzs-wife-amid-challenge-to-debate-on-oreilly-factor/). > > Trump is determined to slander, extort, and blackmail his way to the Oval Office. (Of course, he doesn’t say what dirt he has on Cruz’s wife.) I really want to know the background. I just can’t believe that an ordinary woman could possibly be married to that odious sack of shit without something foul hidden inside. And the same goes for Heidi Cruz. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/304 "2016-03-23T04:45:51Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > 😕 . . . I’ll take “Light Bulb” for $200, Alex. [No! Lo siento schoolbus es mas macho que lightbulb.](https://youtu.be/6mRq1xgKykM?t=1m) ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/305 "2016-03-23T04:58:03Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > _Quien es mas macho_. Yours is a strange melange of Latin and Spanish. 🙂 Heh, well, I certainly bollixed up that phrase. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/306 "2016-03-23T12:45:37Z")
Maybe we can make something like this the new symbol for the 2016 election: [https://www.google.com/search?q=Bridge+"No+Trump"+dice&biw=1920&bih=906&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiLm9LY6tbLAhUM5mMKHQodAzUQsAQIGw#imgrc=9YHX\_eE2aW2rJM%3A](https://www.google.com/search?q=Bridge+%22No+Trump%22+dice&biw=1920&bih=906&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiLm9LY6tbLAhUM5mMKHQodAzUQsAQIGw#imgrc=9YHX_eE2aW2rJM%3A) [https://www.google.com/search?q=Bridge+"No+Trump"+dice&biw=1920&bih=906&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiLm9LY6tbLAhUM5mMKHQodAzUQ\_AUIBigB&dpr=1#imgrc=pP0a739pRCqEUM%3A](https://www.google.com/search?q=Bridge+%22No+Trump%22+dice&biw=1920&bih=906&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiLm9LY6tbLAhUM5mMKHQodAzUQ_AUIBigB&dpr=1#imgrc=pP0a739pRCqEUM%3A) [https://www.google.com/search?q=Bridge+"No+Trump"+dice&biw=1920&bih=906&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiLm9LY6tbLAhUM5mMKHQodAzUQ\_AUIBigB&dpr=1#imgrc=XSNCGR8SfdV8\_M%3A](https://www.google.com/search?q=Bridge+%22No+Trump%22+dice&biw=1920&bih=906&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiLm9LY6tbLAhUM5mMKHQodAzUQ_AUIBigB&dpr=1#imgrc=XSNCGR8SfdV8_M%3A) ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/307 "2016-03-23T14:19:39Z")
I like the 3rd option. It’s bold, obnoxious, and over the top. Just like our spray-tanned friend. Can we get these in a fuzzy dice model? I would definitely hang them in my car. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/308 "2016-03-23T15:41:34Z")
Didn’t Trump used to have brown hair? I can understand about brown hair going to grey hair, but how does it go from brown to iridescent blonde with notes of electric pink? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/309 "2016-03-23T15:54:06Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Didn’t Trump used to have brown hair? I can understand about brown hair going to grey hair, but how does it go from brown to iridescent blonde with notes of electric pink? I believe various chemicals are involved. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/310 "2016-03-23T16:08:27Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Probably much the same impulse as chipping rocks at the rats down at the garbage dump.😉 We used a 22 or 410. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/311 "2016-03-23T21:39:52Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > We used a 22 or 410. Mas mucho overkill. BB air gun, or slingshot. Or a good right arm. I mean, rats: y’gonna call in an air strike? That said…sure sounds like fun! Can I sit nearby and watch? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/312 "2016-03-23T21:47:06Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Didn’t Trump used to have brown hair? I can understand about brown hair going to grey hair, but how does it go from brown to iridescent blonde with notes of electric pink? Don’t be so provincial. That is a perfectly natural maturation process on Trump’s hair’s planet of origin. ---
**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/313 "2016-03-23T21:49:57Z")
![](https://media.giphy.com/media/MkGyW2cOH7uhO/giphy.gif) gif of Trump and Hulk ! This was on facebook ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/314 "2016-03-23T23:04:51Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I really want to know the background. I just can’t believe that an ordinary woman could possibly be married to that odious sack of shit without something foul hidden inside. > And the same goes for Heidi Cruz. Nothing real specific. I’ve seen a few vague mentions, scattered around various media. Something about Ted and Heidi having had some marital discord at one time. Something about Heidi having been depressed. Something about her working for Goldman Sachs. Something about her funneling under-the-table campaign contributions to Ted or something like that. Google for something like “The Beans on Heidi Cruz” and see what scattered and desultory bits you can find. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/315 "2016-03-24T03:01:00Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > So . . . a cornerstone of Trump’s so-called “Make America Great Again” plan should be to make America _look_ “not so great” any more? > > Your ideas intrigue. > > Earlier, you said to look for a $25tn public debt within a few years under a non-Trump presidency. How big do you think it would be under a Trump presidency? I think Trump presidency will be disruptive at the beginning. Disruptive in true sense of the word. In ways that I mentioned in last page.Disrupting the world order as well if he goes on lines similar to what he is talking . In longer term, the debt to GDP ratio will come down. I think I have heard him say that long term debt will gradually come down if he becomes president. In last 8-10 years, US Govt. has incurred 8-10 trillion in debt when the annual budgetary income/expenditure is just 3.X trillion iirc. USA is clearly going Japan’s way where the public debt was 60% in 1990s and today it is 230%+ of GDP. I have mentioned in other threads as well how we require a change in world order. For starters, richer nations where the working age population has peaked must stop using the term GDP ‘growth’. They are lying and so are the central banks. They are ‘growing’ just be increasing their debt to gdp ratio. Only growth that can happen in such countries will be through very very large scale immigration but that may not be a good idea for many. I have no views on large scale immigration - neither negative or positive. You are right, I am an Indian living in India. Just following the American elections and world economy. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/316 "2016-03-24T12:14:13Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > I think Trump presidency will be disruptive at the beginning. Disruptive in true sense of the word. In ways that I mentioned in last page.Disrupting the world order as well if he goes on lines similar to what he is talking . > > In longer term, the debt to GDP ratio will come down. I think I have heard him say that long term debt will gradually come down if he becomes president. > > In last 8-10 years, US Govt. has incurred 8-10 trillion in debt when the annual budgetary income/expenditure is just 3.X trillion iirc. USA is clearly going Japan’s way where the public debt was 60% in 1990s and today it is 230%+ of GDP. > > I have mentioned in other threads as well how we require a change in world order. For starters, richer nations where the working age population has peaked must stop using the term GDP ‘growth’. They are lying and so are the central banks. They are ‘growing’ just be increasing their debt to gdp ratio. Only growth that can happen in such countries will be through very very large scale immigration but that may not be a good idea for many. I have no views on large scale immigration - neither negative or positive. > > You are right, I am an Indian living in India. Just following the American elections and world economy. You’ll forgive me then, I’m sure, if I conclude that you do not have our best interests at heart. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/317 "2016-03-24T12:30:03Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > You’ll forgive me then, I’m sure, if I conclude that you do not have our best interests at heart. No. Because I am not a low life. I am against inequality among people, among nations. If USA can afford unlimited debt(that it will never pay back) at zero interest rate or afford so much money on welfare, then so should other countries as well. I am for a common currency in world. Govts. giving up some powers. People all over the world eligible for doles on the same basis as in richer nations. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/318 "2016-03-24T12:34:43Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > If USA can afford unlimited debt(that it will never pay back) at zero interest rate or afford so much money on welfare, then so should other countries as well. Is India not a democracy any more? You can have all these things too, simply by casting a ballot. That’s aside from the fact that the US does not have unlimited debt, pays significant interest, and abolished welfare in 1993. > [@](#): > > I am for a common currency in world. Govts. giving up some powers. People all over the world eligible for doles on the same basis as in richer nations. The US hasn’t had a dole in over 20 years. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/319 "2016-03-24T12:40:48Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Is India not a democracy any more? You can have all these things too, simply by casting a ballot. > > That’s aside from the fact that the US does not have unlimited debt, pays significant interest, and abolished welfare in 1993.The US hasn’t had a dole in over 20 years. The trajectory of debt growth is pointing towards infinity. AFAIK 5 million people are on food stamps($29 per week). That’s not welfare? Edit: debt could grow as long as gdp is also growing. But gdp won’t be growing, rather contracting as population (particularly working age population) is peaking, technology and automation… Many jobs are redundant. That’s why I am saying we need new world order ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/320 "2016-03-24T12:43:37Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > The trajectory of debt growth is pointing towards infinity. AFAIK 5 million people are on food stamps($29 per week). That’s not welfare? No. Food stamps are not welfare. Glad I could help out with that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959.md?page=17)