# Trump Pit Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 14, 2016, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959 "2016-03-14T09:23:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/361 "2016-03-24T22:56:13Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Writing in chalk on the sidewalk is pretty standard practice on college campuses, in my experience.

Second grade, too.

Oh, **truthSeeker2** and your co-hijackers, could ya’ll start a new thread debating world government somewhere else? This thread is for making fun of Trump and you’re harshing our buzz.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/362 "2016-03-24T23:26:03Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> From what I can see many of the protesters are minorities of the kind that Trump has been targeting or easily mistaken for such. You know what troubles me more? It’s the fact that one of the insidious consequences of the rise of Trump is that racists and Islamophobes now have the perfect dog whistle. They can go around Muslim and Latino groups loudly proclaiming their support of Trump, and if accused of racism or intimidation they can act all aggrieved and claim that they’re simply supporting a political candidate, nothing more. This fact alone gives any Trump endorsement an ugly innuendo that no other candidate has, and if and when it’s directed at minorities it’s not unreasonable to see it in that light.

Trump is where he is today in large part due to the backlash against political correctness. It helps to deflate this made up narrative by not actually being the stereotype that he is fantasizing about. If these protesters who are pretending to be terrified by the words “Trump 2016”, don’t want to see “Reelect Trump 2020” perhaps they should stop playing the part of the hypersensitive college elite that he wants them to be.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/363 "2016-03-25T18:02:28Z")

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[Awesome](http://www.gocomics.com/tomthedancingbug/2016/03/11) [toons](http://www.gocomics.com/tomthedancingbug/2016/03/18).

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/364 "2016-03-25T18:07:56Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Trump is where he is today in large part due to the backlash against political correctness.

Not so much. The backlash is against a great deal more than that – immigration, globalization, offshoring, stagnant incomes, declining prospects, and a Republican Establishment that clearly cares nothing for the economic interests of the white working class. It is also against the transformation of America since the 1950s into a country where a black can be president and gay couples can marry, but those cultural and social issues are secondary to the bread-and-butter issues.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/365 "2016-03-25T18:13:46Z")

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Of course, immigration, as the Trumpers perceive it, lies in the Boolean union of economic and social/cultural issues.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/366 "2016-03-25T18:15:28Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Awesome](http://www.gocomics.com/tomthedancingbug/2016/03/11) [toons](http://www.gocomics.com/tomthedancingbug/2016/03/18).

Why did the second one refuse to use the phrase"enormous schwanzstucker"?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/367 "2016-03-25T21:58:52Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Why did the second one refuse to use the phrase"enormous schwanzstucker"?

Even Tom the Dancing Bug has standards.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/368 "2016-03-25T22:33:59Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Why did the second one refuse to use the phrase"enormous schwanzstucker"?

Not applicable to Trump… 😉

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/369 "2016-03-26T00:46:14Z")

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The link to this video has to be posted everywhere. [Donald Trump: Let's Make America Great Again Theme Song - YouTube](https://youtu.be/5ecEb4tEPic)

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/370 "2016-03-26T04:19:00Z")

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I liked that better in the original German…

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l14WDZCnz-w)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/371 "2016-03-26T19:29:47Z")

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[Or German-accented English.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29Mg6Gfh9Co)

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**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/372 "2016-03-30T12:23:00Z")

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Trump supporters grope and then pepper spray a 15 year old girl.

The party of Lincoln is now the party of the Klan and pedophiles.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/373 "2016-03-30T12:37:20Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> The link to this video has to be posted everywhere. [https://youtu.be/5ecEb4tEPic](https://youtu.be/5ecEb4tEPic)

Please, please tell me that this is satire. That thing is so ridiculous it’s hilarious.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/374 "2016-03-30T12:49:04Z")

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> [@Grsz11](#):
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> Trump supporters grope and then pepper spray a 15 year old girl.
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> The party of Lincoln is now the party of the Klan and pedophiles.

[Link.](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/teen-girl-pepper-sprayed-face-man-trump-event-article-1.2581779)

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/375 "2016-03-30T13:55:40Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [Link.](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/teen-girl-pepper-sprayed-face-man-trump-event-article-1.2581779)

The _Daily Mail_ article linked to this YouTube video as well: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg\_cuODF5rU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg_cuODF5rU)

A white-haired guy and the girl start arguing around the 1:05 mark. Looks like White Haired Guy is laughing it off at times. Then, Pepper Spray Guy works his way up to the scene of the argument at about 1:20. He’s clearly the third man in. He had to squeeze through the crowd to get to where the action is. White Haired Guy holds his hands up at about 1:30. Girl is yelling, White Haired Guy is laughing. At about 1:58, someone (not White Haired Guy, I don’t think) apparently touches the girl, and she starts pushing back. At about 2:02, White Haired Guy is yukking it up. At about 2:04, it looks to me like White Haired Guy is looking away from the girl, and I don’t see him touching her at that particular moment. It looks to me like the girl hits him on the left side of his face as he is looking away. So, kind of a sucker punch. Then, Pepper Spray Guy \*immediately \*sprays her. Pepper Spray guy then backs up and tries to blend back in with the crowd. White Haired Guy is still laughing.

Of course it’s hard to tell much on the video, which was evidently shot by Paul Greengrass. But it looks like the girl might have hit the wrong guy. In any case, Pepper Spray Guy seemed to be looking for any excuse to unleash his mighty weapon. He had to get up close to the argument, then after defending White Haired Guy, he didn’t stick around to see if he was OK or anything. He just slinked back into the crowd. I don’t think he cared much about the actual conflict; I think he just wanted to spray someone. Luckily he didn’t have a gun.

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/376 "2016-03-30T14:25:37Z")

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I mock Trump and his followers at every opportunity, but I will admit that the recent episode at Emory University does not reflect well on the students there. Of course, it is a very small group of students who are all butt-hurt over the “chalking”, so it should not reflect on the university as a whole, on the student body, or on the generation of today’s college students.

In my college days (the 80s at a college in VA) we had some racist graffiti start popping up on campus. We (as in a number of students) immediately “borrowed” a pressure washer and it was gone in a matter of hours. A few nights later it appeared again, even more egregious. Again, we took care of it. A few nights of students (myself included) being on the lookout, and we caught the trespasser. Not a student, a high school student from a few miles away. We took him and his bag of spray paint to the campus police. Done. No counseling needed, no more graffiti.

Maybe there aren’t very many pressure washers around the Emory campus??

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/377 "2016-03-30T15:00:10Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Not so much. The backlash is against a great deal more than that – immigration, globalization, offshoring, stagnant incomes, declining prospects, and a Republican Establishment that clearly cares nothing for the economic interests of the white working class. It is also against the transformation of America since the 1950s into a country where a black can be president and gay couples can marry, but those cultural and social issues are secondary to the bread-and-butter issues.

No. If that analysis were accurate, Sanders would be the go-to guy much more than Trump.

I’m inclined to agree that a common theme I’m hearing from Trump supporters can be boiled down to being tired of political correctness.

Which is a shame. I am also tired of political correctness, but I don’t believe there are any answers from Trump that are better, and there are many of his that are worse.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/378 "2016-03-30T15:07:38Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> No. If that analysis were accurate, Sanders would be the go-to guy much more than Trump.

I don’t understand this. Why would Republican primary voters vote for Sanders? Personally, I don’t hold a very high opinion of the base Republican voters, so maybe I don’t see them actually crossing party lines to vote for a Democrat.

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/379 "2016-03-30T15:10:29Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> No. If that analysis were accurate, Sanders would be the go-to guy much more than Trump.
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> I’m inclined to agree that a common theme I’m hearing from Trump supporters can be boiled down to being tired of political correctness.
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> Which is a shame. I am also tired of political correctness, but I don’t believe there are any answers from Trump that are better, and there are many of his that are worse.

Many people who are anti-“political correctness” think that “politically correct” means we all agree on stuff but can’t say it aloud because of the “PC police”. I’ve known any number of people who think the stuff we all secretly know is stuff like:

[ul]  
[li]“Black people are just less intelligent and more violent than white people”[/li][li]“Minorities, in general, are all lusting after our white women and will rape them if they can”.[/li][li] Minorities, in general, abuse the welfare system and live pretty well without working.[/li][li]“Gays are freaky and butt sex is repulsive”[/li][li]“Girls like to be bossed around and a family works better if the man is in charge”[/li][li] “Most kids would be better off if they got a good whooping a lot more often.”[/li][/ul]

So yeah, even to themselves they may see it as an “end to PC”, but that’s only because they don’t even realize that most people aren’t just pretending not to believe that stuff–we really don’t.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/380 "2016-03-30T15:22:38Z")

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_Politically correct_ means nothing more than respecting others. The backlash against it is nothing more than the desire not to. Yes, it’s that simple.

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