# Trump Pit Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 14, 2016, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959 "2016-03-14T09:23:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/441 "2016-04-30T00:01:14Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Speaking as a (quasi) old person I find this remark highly offensive. There’s nothing funny about being old. You deserve to be stripped of your career, publicly attacked on social media, and shunned by society.
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> And now if you’ll excuse me, I’m off to try to find counseling somewhere…

No, that’s fair. You are not funny, and your age is irrelevant to that.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2016, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/442 "2016-04-30T00:04:27Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> The fundamental purpose of NATO is to defend the West from the Soviet Union.

It was originally, sure–although that’s not at all explicit in the charter. But seeing as how the treaty has only been invoked once, more than a decade after the dissolution of the USSR, I’m not sure you can really argue that defense against the Russkies\* is its current purpose.

\*It’s funny because I’m ironic!  
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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2016, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/443 "2016-04-30T03:45:35Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Russkies! Ha! It’s funny because you’re old!

It makes my golden years all the brighter that I can bring a little joy into your pathetic, punk-ass kid existence.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2016, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/444 "2016-04-30T14:09:25Z")

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I’m a helper.

Tell me more about the Civil War, **Grampa Drop**! Was President Lincoln really ten feet tall?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2016, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/445 "2016-04-30T16:05:57Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Was President Lincoln really ten feet tall?

With, or without hat?

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/446 "2016-04-30T16:45:12Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> The fundamental purpose of NATO is to defend the West from the Soviet Union.

Inviting all of the former Eastern Bloc states into NATO was an aggressive move, it actually would have made the most sense to finish the logical progression eastwards by inviting Russia to join NATO as well. If such an invitation had happened in the mid 90s it might have accepted. There is no logical reason why Russia has to be the enemy of the west anymore.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/447 "2016-04-30T17:31:33Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> …inviting Russia to join NATO as well. If such an invitation had happened in the mid 90s it might have accepted.

Don’t bogart, yo. That is clearly some high-test shit you’re smoking.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/448 "2016-04-30T19:01:58Z")

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Don’t bogart? Are you druggies still saying that? I’d have thought it had gone out about the same time as Russkies. And high-test? I’m beginning to suspect you’re not as young as you try to appear. 😉

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/449 "2016-04-30T20:18:20Z")

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My goal is to be able to seamlessly incorporate at least fifty years of idiom and slang into any given sentence.

And I don’t have to be young, just younger than you. (And **drop** , I guess.)

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/450 "2016-04-30T20:30:48Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> . . . There is no logical reason why Russia has to be the enemy of the west anymore.

Tell that to V. Putin.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/451 "2016-04-30T20:43:09Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> My goal is to be able to seamlessly incorporate at least fifty years of idiom and slang into any given sentence.

Groovy.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/452 "2016-04-30T21:27:20Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> No, that’s fair. You are not funny, and your age is irrelevant to that.

He’s funny in that embarrassing, unintentional way.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2016, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/453 "2016-04-30T21:34:06Z")

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You guys wouldn’t say these things if you knew how much it hurts my feelings.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2016, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/454 "2016-04-30T22:36:19Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> You guys wouldn’t say these things if you knew how much it hurts my feelings.

Back in the good old days, men didn’t have feelings.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2016, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/455 "2016-04-30T22:54:50Z")

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Sure they did. It just didn’t seem like it because in those days people could actually cope with things, and as a result everybody got along. Nowadays everybody’s a victim and everybody hates everybody else. Some consider this an improvement.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2016, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/456 "2016-04-30T23:18:58Z")

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So should we care about your feelings and enable your victimhood?

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**Author:** ![Shoujin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoujin/32/3884_2.png) [@Shoujin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoujin)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/457 "2016-05-01T00:02:15Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> Oompa-Americans, if you don’t mind.

That’s “Tangerines”. Get it right.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2016, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/458 "2016-05-01T00:34:49Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Sure they did. It just didn’t seem like it because in those days people could actually cope with things, and as a result everybody got along.

Well, except for black people being (occasionally) lynched and (incessantly) menaced if they got what some white folks considered “out of line”, and most positions of power, authority and autonomy being closed to minorities as well as white women, and people with homo/bisexual orientations or nonconforming gender identities or mental or developmental disabilities being ruthlessly shamed and shunned and often physically attacked or prosecuted, and so on and so forth.

Other than little stuff like that, everybody got along just great.

[QUOTE=Starving Artist]  
Nowadays everybody’s a victim and everybody hates everybody else.  
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More like, nowadays the victims aren’t as afraid to speak up and the former victimizers are resentfully outraged at actually being held accountable for practicing what they preach concerning justice, equality and fairness.

As opposed to the good old days when straight cis white men could smugly pontificate about how great and prosperous and humane everything was, secure in the reassuring knowledge that the non-straight and non-cis and non-white and non-male were not in a position to pose any credible challenge to their monopolization of power, attention and importance in society.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2016, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/459 "2016-05-01T03:25:51Z")

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Anyone near \*\*Starvin’\*\*s age remembers when Real Guys could talk like Trump does. Look down on women? Distrust wetbacks? Resent the gummint? Heck, that was the majority view, and nobody’d raise an eyebrow, let alone a protest sign.

I wonder if part of Donald’s draw is a nostalgia for the Good Ol’ (ignorant) Days.

And, geez, what about them pesky negroes? Am I right?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/460 "2016-05-01T03:36:09Z")

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Boy the way Glenn Miller Played  
Songs that made the Hit Parade  
Guys like us we had it made  
Those were the days

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