# Trump Pit Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 14, 2016, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959 "2016-03-14T09:23:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/521 "2016-06-19T08:35:01Z")

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> [@Tithonus](#):
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> As for those kids being strong? They protested the university dean on the grounds that they were _traumatised_ by a _word_. They are not, by any reasonable definition, strong.

Well, to be fair, I believe they were even more traumatized by having learned that there were actual Trump supporters attending their school. The realization that any student they saw on campus might be an actual Trump supporter/racist/sexist/fascist/conservative/evil-doer is the reason they felt unsafe at their own school, which of course they didn’t deserve. Thus the only rightful course of action would be to have the school seek out and expel its Trump supporters, because no one at a predominately (and presumedly exclusively) liberal university deserves to have feelings they don’t deserve.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/522 "2016-06-20T04:44:51Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> The only thing that makes you look bad is you. You’re making blatantly anti-liberal arguments, while whining about how liberal is being redefined.
> 
> I am, in fact, a couple years younger than you. But the difference is small enough that I know what liberalism was like when you were in college. And it was definitely pro-PC, not this anti-PC garbage you are spewing all over this thread. People assume you must be older, since you seem to adhere to a liberalism that hasn’t existed in forever. Not since liberal became synonymous with progressive, at any rate.
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> You were the one making “might makes right” arguments. That’s why Derleth made those arguments back at you. You want to call these kids weak, he points out that they are actually much stronger than you. Your solution to the “problem” was to have the dean flex his muscle. A liberal who is actually for having authorities strong arm protesters rather than talk with them? Really?
> 
> And I did explain Derleth’s post in my first paragraph. I didn’t think I had to specifically spell out that Cameron is Conservative politician who makes the same anti-PC bullshit arguments you make. Regardless, he is one of many people who is trying to hold on to a world that never was.
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> It’s not complicated, as I said. These kids are fighting against bigotry. They may overreact, but they are doing what’s right. If being associated with them makes you look bad in the eyes of the people you hang out with, then you hang out with some shitty people.
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> You have become a conservative, trying to preserve what you think liberal means, when the whole point is that it marches on. And it already has moved past where you are.
> 
> Wanting things to go back the way they were in the past is the literal definition of conservatism.

How about you stop trying to speak for liberals, okay? That’d be a big a help.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/523 "2016-06-20T05:04:25Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Six months of Trump and Hillary attack ads . . . ya got any of that tequila and bongwater left?

Except it looks like it’s six months of just Hilary attack ads on Trump: she’s got 100% of the ad buy right now. He’s bought zero in the battleground states.

[Stunning –\> Team Clinton has a 100% ad-spending edge in battlegrounds.](https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/744492469589446656)

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/524 "2016-06-20T05:19:45Z")

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Does that include the RNC’s anti-Donald ads?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/525 "2016-06-20T05:37:02Z")

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“…OK, sports fans, bottom of the ninth, score, 23-zip, and the big cleanup batter, “Big Hands” Donald Trump is striding to the plate, bold confidence in every step…he appears to be carrying a tennis racket…”

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/526 "2016-06-20T18:39:03Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Except it looks like it’s six months of just Hilary attack ads on Trump: she’s got 100% of the ad buy right now. He’s bought zero in the battleground states.
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> [Stunning –\> Team Clinton has a 100% ad-spending edge in battlegrounds.](https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/744492469589446656)

Four years ago Romney got hurt because Obama bought up air time early, when it was cheap, forcing Romney to pay more for less desirable slots. But this is crazy. Trump still doesn’t have an organization.  
Maybe he’ll declare his candidacy bankrupt in October or something.

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**Author:** ![Memnon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Memnon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Memnon)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/527 "2016-06-20T18:42:06Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Four years ago Romney got hurt because Obama bought up air time early, when it was cheap, forcing Romney to pay more for less desirable slots. But this is crazy. Trump still doesn’t have an organization.  
> Maybe he’ll declare his candidacy bankrupt in October or something.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Trump never _really_ wanted to win this. It’s all just a game for him. If he wins, it stops being fun and starts being work.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/528 "2016-06-20T18:59:14Z")

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> [@Tithonus](#):
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> I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Trump never _really_ wanted to win this. It’s all just a game for him. If he wins, it stops being fun and starts being work.

While I like that idea just fine – and hope it’s true! – I wonder if he’s counting on the plan that worked before he got the nomination: _advertising?_ Who needs advertising? You just phone CNN, or Fox News, or MSNBC, and they drop whatever they’re doing to interview you right then in prime time!

You call Good Morning America, or the Today show, and they put you on the air live; and you talk for as long as you please! You tell Jimmy Kimmel you’d like to be a guest on his show, instead of paying for a TV commercial; and then it just happens! You’re on Meet The Press! You’re hosting SNL! So let it be written! So let it be done!

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/529 "2016-06-20T19:03:48Z")

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Nah, this is Trump. The less likable PT Barnum.

His solution will be to be even more controversial and offensive, so as to keep getting all of that free air time.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/530 "2016-06-20T19:10:57Z")

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Facing historically low polls across the board, Trump to campaign manager Lewandowski: “[You’re fired!](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-campaign-manager-20160620-snap-story.html)”

Didn’t the personification of a flip-flop say Lewandowski wouldn’t be fired or did that only apply to him being charged with battery?

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/531 "2016-06-20T22:21:13Z")

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The first move of any new campaign manager would be to change DonDon’s Twitter password and refuse to give him the new one. If they don’t do that then they’re just taking his money.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/532 "2016-06-21T00:32:21Z")

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> [@Tithonus](#):
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> I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Trump never _really_ wanted to win this. It’s all just a game for him. If he wins, it stops being fun and starts being work.

Nah, Shrub proved that you don’t have to work very hard to be President, you just delegate everything, and let your VP make all the decisions. All you have to do is show up on camera and speak every few days, and he loves doing that.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/533 "2016-06-21T01:13:18Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> You could not possibly pay me enough to live in Ohio.
> 
> Ever.
> 
> But particularly for the next six months.

I lived in Ohio 1964-65 (Brown, Groza, and Warfield–fuck yeah!), and consider myself a very-slightly-adoptive Ohioan (go Cavs), but I prefer Illinois, where Hillary, Favorite Daughter, will waste little ad money, and I suppose Trump, since we hate New York, cannot waste ad money he doesn’t have.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/534 "2016-06-22T16:14:21Z")

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> [@Tithonus](#):
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> Because you’re a sanctimonious arse, and your opinion is about as welcome as a fart in a spaceship and nowhere near as easy to take.

No, BigTrump is right. Being a whiny bitch-ass pussy, as an adult, is a good thing and makes you a winner. If only more people would break down and cry and seek therapy and the retreat of their mothers basement at seeing some ones name then America would be a better place.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/535 "2016-06-22T16:36:08Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Nah, Shrub proved that you don’t have to work very hard to be President, you just delegate everything, and let your VP make all the decisions. All you have to do is show up on camera and speak every few days, and he loves doing that.

Now watch this drive.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/536 "2016-06-22T18:53:52Z")

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[Trump-inspired Tennessee candidate for Congress erects “Make America White Again” billboard, draws boycott.](http://www.salon.com/2016/06/22/trump_inspired_tennessee_candidate_for_congress_erects_make_america_white_again_billboard_draws_boycott/)

> [@](#):
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> “Clearly we are in uncharted waters, in that there has never been a candidacy like this in modern political history,” Tyler explained on his website (which appears to be down, but you can view a cached version here.) “Of great significance, as well, is the reality of the Trump phenomenon and the manner in which he has loosened up the overall spectrum of political discourse”:
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> > [@](#):
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> > The Make America White Again billboard advertisement will cut to the very core and marrow of what plagues us as a nation. As Anne Coulter so effectively elucidates in her book, Adios America, the overhaul of America’s immigration law in the 1960’s has placed us on an inevitable course of demise and destruction. Yes the cunning globalist/Marxist social engineers have succeeded in destroying that great bulwark against statist tyranny the white American super majority. Without its expedited restoration little hope remains for the nation as a whole.
> 
> Tyler explains that the Trump-inspired “Make America White Again” is one of several billboard ideas, including some with slogans like “Fight federal tyranny / Stop the Muslim invasion,” and “Mamas, don’t let your babies grow up to be miscegenators.” Tyler currently has a second sign erected on Highway 64 with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s famous “I Have a Dream” quote written over a White House surrounded by Confederate Flags.
> 
> \<snip\>
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> When asked about the controversy his billboard has caused, Tyler told WRCB that he does not hate people of color, but that he wants to “restore the demographic to the America that was prevalent in the mid-1960s”
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> “(The) Leave it to Beaver time when there were no break-ins; no violent crime; no mass immigration, no Muslim sleeper cells lurking,” he told the news station. “[A] better America”

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/537 "2016-06-22T18:58:14Z")

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“Mamas, don’t let your babies grow up to be miscegenators.”

He should have gone with “mudsharks.” I learned that term on the dope, so it holds a special place in my heart.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/538 "2016-06-22T19:23:16Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Nah, Shrub proved that you don’t have to work very hard to be President, you just delegate everything, and let your VP make all the decisions. All you have to do is show up on camera and speak every few days, and he loves doing that.

Bush, deep down inside, knew he was in over his head, though it only really registered during the financial crisis when he got out of the way and let the adults work on it. (Much to his credit.) Trump has no idea of what he’s talking about.  
I never thought I’d say this, but Bush is smarter than Trump. And has a much smaller ego.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/539 "2016-06-22T19:35:59Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Trump-inspired Tennessee candidate for Congress erects “Make America White Again” billboard, draws boycott.](http://www.salon.com/2016/06/22/trump_inspired_tennessee_candidate_for_congress_erects_make_america_white_again_billboard_draws_boycott/)
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> > [@](#):
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> > “(The) Leave it to Beaver time when there were no break-ins; no violent crime; no mass immigration, no Muslim sleeper cells lurking,” he told the news station. “[A] better America”

No violent crime? What about [church bombing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16th_Street_Baptist_Church_bombing) or [a lone nut in a clock tower](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman)? Not to mention Mafia hits.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/540 "2016-06-22T20:12:05Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> No violent crime? What about [church bombing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16th_Street_Baptist_Church_bombing) or [a lone nut in a clock tower](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman)? Not to mention Mafia hits.

What?! Nothing like **that** ever happened on _Leave It to Beaver!_

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