# Trump Pit Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 14, 2016, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959 "2016-03-14T09:23:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/541 "2016-06-22T20:15:29Z")

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Trump is so egotistical that I think if Hillary came out and said he was a “great business man and super intelligent person” that he would pivot and endorse her.

he just simply cannot handle anyone speaking badly about him…

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/542 "2016-06-22T20:34:52Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Trump-inspired Tennessee candidate for Congress erects “Make America White Again” billboard, draws boycott.](http://www.salon.com/2016/06/22/trump_inspired_tennessee_candidate_for_congress_erects_make_america_white_again_billboard_draws_boycott/)

From the article:

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> When asked about the controversy his billboard has caused, Tyler told WRCB that he does not hate people of color, but that he wants to “restore the demographic to the America that was prevalent in the mid-1960s”

Hmmmm… sounds very much like someone who posts here and harkens back to the “good old days”, when things were so much better, and there were not as many pesky liberals around…

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/543 "2016-06-22T20:41:29Z")

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“I don’t hate people of color, but…” It’s like a more PC version of “I’m not racist, but…”

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/544 "2016-06-22T20:42:15Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> What?! Nothing like **that** ever happened on _Leave It to Beaver!_

Rob and Laura Petrie never mentioned any [numbers runners](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/TheNorthAvenueIrregulars), either. 😉

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/545 "2016-06-22T20:45:20Z")

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There were black people on Dick Van Dyke Show at least once, when they thought their son Richie had been switched at the hospital. The fact of the other couple being black was the point of the joke.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/546 "2016-06-22T20:52:29Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> There were black people on Dick Van Dyke Show at least once, when they thought their son Richie had been switched at the hospital. The fact of the other couple being black was the point of the joke.

What about [Italians](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_game#New_York_City)? 🙂

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/547 "2016-06-22T21:20:18Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Maybe he’ll declare his candidacy bankrupt in October or something.

If he does, it will be [a brilliant bankruptcy](http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/22/politics/donald-trump-defends-bankruptcy-history/)!

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/548 "2016-06-22T21:37:21Z")

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> When asked about the controversy his billboard has caused, Tyler told WRCB that he does not hate people of color, but that he wants to “restore the demographic to the America that was prevalent in the mid-1960s”

OK. How, exactly ? “I don’t hate people of colour, I just wish for a grand genocide of 'em is all !”

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/549 "2016-06-22T22:13:06Z")

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I think I understand the distinction he is making. He just wants people of any particular color to bugger off to wherever they or their ancestors originally came from so that America can become a _Leave it to Beaver_ or _Father Knows Best_\* type of place, you know, a country run by and for decent white people and not the Inferior Races. It’s not that he hates them. If they leave quietly, he’s not going to chase them or kick their asses or anything. 😃

\*_Father Knows Best_ had a number of episodes featuring a Mexican gardener named “Frank”. That’s not a Mexican name, but apparently “Frank” was obsessed with whitening and Anglifying himself, which was supposed to be an adorable virtue. In one episode he’s nominated to be one of the official greeters of a visiting dignitary to a Springfield flower festival, and hilarity ensues when the mayor finds out he’s Mexican and throws him off the committee. I don’t know how it ends but in keeping with the show’s moralizing I’m pretty sure that Jim, in his wisdom, convinces the mayor that in some respects, like showing flowers, a Mexican who tries really hard can be almost as good as a regular white person, and “Frank” undoubtedly reciprocates with a torrent of humble whimpering that makes him totally adorable.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/550 "2016-06-22T22:24:32Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> If he does, it will be [a brilliant bankruptcy](http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/22/politics/donald-trump-defends-bankruptcy-history/)!

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> Pressed further on how he would negotiate the country’s debt, Trump responded, “You go back and you say, guess what, the economy crashed, I’m going to give you half.”  
> But Trump quickly backed off that assertion moments later when O’Donnell referenced comments from Federal Reserve Chairwoman Janet Yellen, who warned that there could be “very severe” consequences if the U.S. attempted to renege on debt obligations.

Jesus. He Just. Doesn’t. Get. It. I really think he does not understand how this works.

He’s gotten rich by stiffing his suppliers entirely, or paying them pennies on the dollar, or just declaring bankruptcy. This does not translate to how to run a country.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/551 "2016-06-22T22:38:13Z")

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Leave it to Beaver had a Spanish kid on the show, because Heaven forfend there be any of those people from Latin America on it, who didn’t speak English, but he and Beaver became friends until Eddy taught Beaver to say something in Spanish that he told him was friendly but was really an insult.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/552 "2016-06-22T22:40:36Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Jesus. He Just. Doesn’t. Get. It. I really think he does not understand how this works.
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> He’s gotten rich by stiffing his suppliers entirely, or paying them pennies on the dollar, or just declaring bankruptcy. This does not translate to how to run a country.

Yeah, after Trump uses his “brilliant” tactics to stiff the holders of government-backed Treasury bonds and notes and T-bills, the US federal government will only be able to get money on the global markets by getting Zimbabwe to co-sign for it. 😃

I can’t really decide if the man is such a total dumbass because he’s just so incredibly innately stupid, or if it’s because he’s been sheltered by yes-men for a lifetime and has never actually learned anything, or if it’s some combination of the two.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/553 "2016-06-23T00:15:38Z")

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The other thing that comes to mind is, what if Trump started a bank. I don’t know what he would call it because he’s in no way narcissistic, but let’s just call it the “Trump Bank”. It works like this. You put your money in because it pays decent interest and your savings grow, and then eventually you want to take it out because you’re buying a house or a new car. You are then put in touch with a lunatic wearing an orange marmoset on his head. Quoth the lunatic:

“Hey, I tell you what I’m gonna do. I wouldn’t normally do this, but I like you, so I’m gonna make you a deal. I’m gonna give you half of your money. Take it or leave it, that’s the deal. I do deals, and I’m the best at doing deals. You are a LOSER. If you wanted a better deal, you should of went to Trump University and you might of learned how this stuff works, loser.”

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/554 "2016-06-23T00:31:58Z")

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Yeah, only losers think it’s “should of”. 😉

Actually, to seriously ask a question about the satirical scenario, does the FDIC insure against “the bank doesn’t feel like giving you your money”?

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/555 "2016-06-23T00:40:01Z")

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This had been kicking around a while, but seems to be getting traction in the news recently:

Trump has been spending a lot of his meager campaign money paying for goods and services from his own companies. So he’s spending his donors’ money on himself. This apparently has just gotten on the news radar because of his latest FEC filings.

[Trump’s campaign spends $6 million with Trump companies](http://bigstory.ap.org/article/9f7412236962464f9f2c0a8d2696ba25/trumps-campaign-cycles-6-million-trump-companies)

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/556 "2016-06-23T01:09:52Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Yeah, only losers think it’s “should of”. 😉

That was in reference to certain posters here who have opined that it’s “perfectly acceptable” usage and merely a matter of “subjective interpretation”. :rolleyes:

OK, I couldn’t restrain myself! 😃

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/557 "2016-06-23T02:06:45Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Actually, to seriously ask a question about the satirical scenario, does the FDIC insure against “the bank doesn’t feel like giving you your money”?

IANAL, but the FDIC insures against “default”, defined as “failure to promptly pay interest or principal when due”.

The funny part is that the credibility and credit-worthiness of the FDIC is stated as being “backed by the full faith and credit of the United States government”. Which, if the orange marmoset-topped one ever runs the place, will have about as much faith and credit as the guy on the street corner with the over-sized trench coat selling “genuine” Rolex watches.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/558 "2016-06-23T02:53:36Z")

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I think that if human society survives this lunacy, that in 20, 30 years or so there will be history professors teaching this crap and saying “Yes, YES, an actual candidate of the Republican party ACTUALLY said he would negotiate the global debt by saying he would offer 50 cents on the dollar. I know, it’s crazy, but an astonishing number of Americans totally thought it sounded like a plan. Yes. He really did propose building a wall and making Mexico pay for it. I know! Completely insane. But it really happened.”

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/559 "2016-06-23T03:32:30Z")

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You’re an optimist. It’s possible that in 2020, the Republican Party might run a chimpanzee.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/560 "2016-06-23T03:36:12Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> You’re an optimist. It’s possible that in 2020, the Republican Party might run a chimpanzee.

Close. An actual Republican president co-starred with one.

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