# Trump Pit Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 14, 2016, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959 "2016-03-14T09:23:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/41 "2016-03-14T17:33:19Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > If the matchup is Trump - Clinton I will vote Clinton. > > And then shower, because I will feel dirty. Save me some soap. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/42 "2016-03-14T17:40:20Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > If the matchup is Trump - Clinton I will vote Clinton. > > And then shower, because I will feel dirty. :eek: > [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Save me some soap. :eek::eek: ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/43 "2016-03-14T17:41:54Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Though I do have a question: is it issues based–that, as much as you hate Clinton, you think she has more of the issues correct (even if that’s an incredibly low bar)? Or does it have more to do with your evaluation of Trump’s ability to do the job? There’s a third option, one might, especially if their competence and issues approach is comparable, find one candidate more personally appealing than another. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/44 "2016-03-14T17:43:34Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > If the matchup is Trump - Clinton I will vote Clinton. > > And then shower, because I will feel dirty. After the shower, get involved in fixing the Republican Party so we no longer have to vote for one side by default because the other side has gone bullgoose loony. I personally believe we are made stronger with a good two(at a minimum) party system-it keeps both sides on their toes. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/45 "2016-03-14T17:45:30Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Save me some soap. I thought vinyl cleaned up with just a damp sponge. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/46 "2016-03-14T17:55:50Z")
I didn’t think the republican party could cough up worse hairball than W, but _both_ Trump and Cruz are complete shite. Where have you gone, Mittens? Had Romney won in 2012, he probably wouldn’t have been terrible. Pairing Trump or Cruz with a republican controlled congress…still waiting on a puking smiley. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/47 "2016-03-14T18:10:55Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > If the matchup is Trump - Clinton I will vote Clinton. > > And then shower, because I will feel dirty. Me, too - even if we’re normally at opposite ends of the political spectrum. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/48 "2016-03-14T18:11:51Z")
I used to just think his campaign was funny. The recent uptick in violence at his rallies and his call for it makes this a whole lot less funny. Do you guys think the protesters are helping or hurting Trump’s campaign? I’d like to say it’s hurting by stripping away the ‘hold your nose and vote for him anyway’ crowd, but I just don’t know at this point. I feel like I live in a different country. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/49 "2016-03-14T18:17:03Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > I used to just think his campaign was funny. The recent uptick in violence at his rallies and his call for it makes this a whole lot less funny. > > Do you guys think the protesters are helping or hurting Trump’s campaign? I’d like to say it’s hurting by stripping away the ‘hold your nose and vote for him anyway’ crowd, but I just don’t know at this point. I feel like I live in a different country. The veneer has been stripped away, the ugliness has been exposed…and it has done nothing but attracted its like and those that are willing to tolerate its like to hold onto and/or gain power. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/50 "2016-03-14T18:23:34Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > I went back 2 weeks and could only find a Trump versus Shittary thread. [This catchall thread for Trump, Cruz, and Rubio](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=785222&highlight=trump) was last active almost exactly two weeks ago. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/51 "2016-03-14T18:31:20Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > **Truthseeker2** is an out-and-out Trump supporter. **Hank Beecher** , **octopus** , **doorhinge** and **Starving Artist** may or may not be outright supporters, but most of their Trump-related posts seem to argue against most criticisms of Trump aired on this board. They are welcome to correct the record if I’ve got this wrong. Well, the motto of the board is about fighting ignorance, and most of the criticisms of Trump on this board are either factually wrong or, in the case where his few corporate bankruptcies are trumpeted but his many more successes are ignored, slanted so as to create a false impression and thereby increase ignorance as to Trump’s record and degree of success. There’s a phenomenon at work on this board where correction of facts equals support for the accused. I would think that to any thoughtful person this would be a problem. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/52 "2016-03-14T18:34:54Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Well, the motto of the board is about fighting ignorance, and most of the criticisms of Trump on this board are either factually wrong or, in the case where his few corporate bankruptcies are trumpeted but his many more successes are ignored, slanted so as to create a false impression and thereby increase ignorance as to Trump’s record and degree of success. > > There’s a phenomenon at work on this board where correction of facts equals support for the accused. I would think that to any thoughtful person this would be a problem. Do you support him? ---
**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/53 "2016-03-14T18:35:40Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > I got it! Trump should pick Palin! They just go together, don’t ya think? She does have a weakness for mavericks. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/54 "2016-03-14T18:36:04Z")
> [@](#): > > There’s a phenomenon at work on this board where correction of facts equals support for the accused. I would think that to any thoughtful person this would be a problem. I’m pretty sure most of us would take your word for it if you said you didn’t support him. Do you? ETA: ninja’d. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/55 "2016-03-14T18:37:54Z")
Trump will not win. He will be defeated by his own baffoonery and lack of political acumen. But what he’s done is expose how at least a third of the country thinks and believes. I fear that someone who is smarter, more politically capable and more charismatic will capitalize on this in the future. And that someone may actually succeed where Trump has failed. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/56 "2016-03-14T18:46:15Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > You racist, hating on orange folk like that. Just because someone wasn’t born orange doesn’t mean they can’t self-identify as an orange individual and take measures to correct their appearance in order to reflect who they feel they are on the inside. Please, it’s Citrus-American. I hope those Republicans that currently say they’d vote for Hillary over him stick to their principles. Do that and I might consider voting for a Republican say in 40 years. My dream scenario is that Trump fails to get the majority of delegates and is denied the nomination after several dozen ballots. He then throws a fit and runs an independent wherever he can get on the ballot. His supporters either vote third party or sit out the election. It cripples Republicans downballot and we get the House, Senate, and several statehouses. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/57 "2016-03-14T18:46:16Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Well, the motto of the board is about fighting ignorance, and most of the criticisms of Trump on this board are either factually wrong or, in the case where his few corporate bankruptcies are trumpeted but his many more successes are ignored, slanted so as to create a false impression and thereby increase ignorance as to Trump’s record and degree of success. > > There’s a phenomenon at work on this board where correction of facts equals support for the accused. I would think that to any thoughtful person this would be a problem. Let’s just say for the sake of argument that Trump’s failures are wiped from the record. Or let’s just say that Trump steak, vodka, water, university and casino were a commercial success. Do you believe it would make him the best candidate for president? Please provide reasoning. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/58 "2016-03-14T19:35:35Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > I used to just think his campaign was funny. The recent uptick in violence at his rallies and his call for it makes this a whole lot less funny. > > Do you guys think the protesters are helping or hurting Trump’s campaign? I’d like to say it’s hurting by stripping away the ‘hold your nose and vote for him anyway’ crowd, but I just don’t know at this point. I feel like I live in a different country. IMHO if Trump was smarter he would had run to the middle and tell his supporters to cool it so then the public would had seen him as the victim. Instead he blabbed in quick succession about blaming Sanders, telling all that he condones the violence against those protesters and that he will pay for the ones that get into legal trouble for that. Then talking about his campaign now being about “payback”. (And then crazily claim later that there was no violence in his rallies, WTF?) Not going to help among all Americans but his Republican base will continue to support him. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/59 "2016-03-14T19:58:24Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Well, the motto of the board is about fighting ignorance, and most of the criticisms of Trump on this board are either factually wrong or, in the case where his few corporate bankruptcies are trumpeted but his many more successes are ignored, slanted so as to create a false impression and thereby increase ignorance as to Trump’s record and degree of success. > > There’s a phenomenon at work on this board where correction of facts equals support for the accused. I would think that to any thoughtful person this would be a problem. Now, now, I was only responding to a poster who suggested that there were no Trump supporters here, that there may be a few. I did say “may or may not” in your case. So, is it may? Or not? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/60 "2016-03-14T20:05:18Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Trump will not win. He will be defeated by his own baffoonery and lack of political acumen. > > But what he’s done is expose how at least a third of the country thinks and believes. I fear that someone who is smarter, more politically capable and more charismatic will capitalize on this in the future. And that someone may actually succeed where Trump has failed. [Didn’t we already have one](http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/130423134724-14-gwb-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg)? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959.md?page=4)