# Trump Pit Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 14, 2016, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959 "2016-03-14T09:23:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/101 "2016-03-15T20:37:29Z")

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Yesterday, an acquaintance who ushers at the local civic auditorium said she worked at a Trump rally that was held there a few weeks ago, and said it was the scariest thing she had ever witnessed. ☹

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/102 "2016-03-15T21:01:30Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Yesterday, an acquaintance who ushers at the local civic auditorium said she worked at a Trump rally that was held there a few weeks ago, and said it was the scariest thing she had ever witnessed. ☹

Well, that could mean a lot of things. Got any details?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/103 "2016-03-15T21:15:06Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> **Truthseeker2** is an out-and-out Trump supporter. **Hank Beecher** , **octopus** , **doorhinge** and **Starving Artist** may or may not be outright supporters, but most of their Trump-related posts seem to argue against most criticisms of Trump aired on this board. They are welcome to correct the record if I’ve got this wrong.

Hank Beecher is truly special.

> [@Trump's Republican primary campaign](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2501):
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> Nome Chomsky and Bob Dillon were ingredients in my mother’s milk.

Yep, mad cred, dude. Mad cred.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/104 "2016-03-15T21:39:06Z")

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Been meaning to ask… any relation to the Beecher from _Oz_? The one who bit a guy’s dick off?

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/105 "2016-03-15T21:42:42Z")

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[Article today](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/16/us/politics/donald-trump-butler-mar-a-lago.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=b-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news) on Trump’s 118 room mansion in Florida, and how life is there, according to his butler, who sounds like as big a prick as Trump is.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/106 "2016-03-15T22:38:48Z")

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Huh. Trump ruined the 16th century Flemish tapestries by flooding the living room with sunlight, instead of donating them to a museum and putting up some Leroy Neimans instead. Trump turned the library full of rare first editions into a bar. Who’d a thunk it?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/107 "2016-03-15T22:48:00Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Huh. Trump ruined the 16th century Flemish tapestries by flooding the living room with sunlight, instead of donating them to a museum and putting up some Leroy Neimans instead. Trump turned the library full of rare first editions into a bar. Who’d a thunk it?

One wonders if he ever has opened and read any of those rare first editions. (Or any cheaper editions of the same books.)

No, one doesn’t, not really.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/108 "2016-03-15T23:10:48Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> One wonders if he ever has opened and read any of those rare first editions.

I have it on good authority the pages were still uncut.

The man’s a Belasco!

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/109 "2016-03-16T00:24:21Z")

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Or a Jay Gatsby.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/110 "2016-03-16T02:21:51Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Well, that could mean a lot of things. Got any details?

She said she had always wondered who all those people were who watch things like the Kardashians and “those jungle survival programs” and sure enough, there were several thousand in one place. She saw very few non-white people, and during his speech, he didn’t really say much except the usual “We’re going to make America great again!” and other similar generic proclamations, all of which elicited cheers from the audience.

She also never encountered a crowd of any kind that smelled so strongly of cigarette smoke as that one. I know she was trying to avoid the phrase “white trash” while describing them. :o

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/111 "2016-03-16T02:50:52Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> She said she had always wondered who all those people were who watch things like the Kardashians and “those jungle survival programs” and sure enough, there were several thousand in one place. She saw very few non-white people, and during his speech, he didn’t really say much except the usual “We’re going to make America great again!” and other similar generic proclamations, all of which elicited cheers from the audience.
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> She also never encountered a crowd of any kind that smelled so strongly of cigarette smoke as that one. I know she was trying to avoid the phrase “white trash” while describing them. :o

Oh, so it was kind of 12 stores worth of your average Wal-Mart crowd all in one place. Got it.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/112 "2016-03-16T02:56:56Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Hank Beecher is truly special.

Yeah, in another thread he’s typed around five thousand angry words over the past several hours arguing over whether or not CNN should have given more coverage to Trump’s endorsement by a Black Republican’s organization that apparently consists of one person (or perhaps a few dozen persons; whatever).

I’m guessing we could fairly safely put him down as a Trump supporter, eh?.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/113 "2016-03-16T03:04:56Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> One wonders if he ever has opened and read any of those rare first editions. (Or any cheaper editions of the same books.)
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> No, one doesn’t, not really.

One needn’t wonder since it says right in the article, when the books are mentioned:

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> He also remembered Donald Trump’s young sons running through the library, paneled with centuries-old British oak and filled with rare first-edition books that no one in the family ever read.

I also liked this bit:

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> Mr. Senecal greeted guests at the door, including Hillary Clinton. (In the interview, he offered a profane description for Mrs. Clinton, the front-runner in the Democratic presidential race.)

I really wish I knew what his “profane description” of her was. One can only imagine.

And also, you gotta love [this portrait](http://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/03/15/us/politics/16butler-ss-slide-NIYO/16butler-ss-slide-NIYO-jumbo.jpg).

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/114 "2016-03-16T06:05:32Z")

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Getting after Trump on a minor political indiscretion is like busting Jeffrey Dahmer for health code infractions on food storage.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/115 "2016-03-16T08:17:04Z")

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Has anyone mentioned this yet?

[Donald Trump’s volunteer contract forbids all criticism of Trump for life](http://www.dailydot.com/politics/donald-trump-volunteer-contract-nda-non-disparagement-clause/)

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> Donald Trump’s campaign requires volunteers to sign a contract that forbids them from criticizing the Republican presidential front-runner, his family members, any Trump businesses or products, or his campaign. The six-page contract, reviewed in full by the Daily Dot, theoretically lasts for the entirety of a volunteer’s life.
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> Legal experts say, however, that the contract’s non-disparagement clause would likely never hold up in court.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/116 "2016-03-16T11:31:22Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Getting after Trump on a minor political indiscretion is like busting Jeffrey Dahmer for health code infractions on food storage.

Ha!!

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/117 "2016-03-16T13:28:53Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Has anyone mentioned this yet?
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> [Donald Trump’s volunteer contract forbids all criticism of Trump for life](http://www.dailydot.com/politics/donald-trump-volunteer-contract-nda-non-disparagement-clause/)

Came in here to mention this. This is simply bullying, he’s counting on the fact that volunteers will be too intimidated by his public image and wealth to realise that this is a completely illegal and un-enforceable contract.

I hope a media agency manages to sneak a volunteer in, then publish an expose, the resulting legal battle would smack trump down and bring some media attention to the tricks that he tries to pull.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/118 "2016-03-16T13:42:49Z")

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I like that the “volunteer contract” also includes a non-compete, meaning the volunteer can’t work for another candidate, until the non-compete cutoff date expires. And if he loses but chooses to run later, that can be a good long time.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/119 "2016-03-16T14:46:56Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> And also, you gotta love [this portrait](http://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/03/15/us/politics/16butler-ss-slide-NIYO/16butler-ss-slide-NIYO-jumbo.jpg).

Get your money back, Donald! The **portrait** is supposed to do the aging for you!

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/120 "2016-03-16T14:53:08Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> May as well put it in both threads;
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> Ben Carson: “I wasn’t going to endorse Trump, but he offered me a job in his administration”
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> That would be a **felony** , though I expect the Orange one to deny it and nothing will come of it unless perhaps it was recorded (which is doubtful).

Tell me more about this **felony** business…

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