# Trump Pit Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 14, 2016, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959 "2016-03-14T09:23:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/141 "2016-03-17T08:40:13Z")
[quote=“coremelt, post:137, topic:748959”] I feel sad that in this classic Australian political sketch, the politician makes more sense than the leading GOP 2016 candidate: [/QUOTE] John Clarke is a genius. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/142 "2016-03-17T13:58:35Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > Good lord. He sounds like Dan Quayle with a little GW thrown in, for added incoherence. He’s a SNL skit without the need for a writer. Compared to that verbal vomit, “Bushisms” sound like George Bernard Shaw. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/143 "2016-03-17T14:31:33Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > It really isn’t. Any clown or half wit or Fascist can stand for election to any office. Almost anywhere. Yeah, and get laughed off the stage. But **this** halfwit fascist clown somehow looks like he has an actual **shot** at the most important public office in world, and **that** is a problem. ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/144 "2016-03-17T17:38:55Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > If the matchup is Trump - Clinton I will vote Clinton. > > And then shower, because I will feel dirty. > [@Knorf](#): > > (snipped) > > **Bricker** does not support Trump! Really! > > Your ball. I know **Bricker** doesn’t need me to defend him. But what other proof of his non-support of Trump would you need? ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/145 "2016-03-17T17:49:18Z")
> [@DiggitCamara](#): > > I know **Bricker** doesn’t need me to defend him. But what other proof of his non-support of Trump would you need? I’m quite sure he is in no way a supporter of Trump. Mainly, I’m hoping he manages to come up with some solid evidence supporting his allegation that “many” examples of criticism of Trump on the SDMB are invalid in some way. ---
**Author:** ![Last\_Glacial\_Maximum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc79bd/32.png) [@Last\_Glacial\_Maximum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Last_Glacial_Maximum)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/146 "2016-03-17T20:36:22Z")
> [@loach](#): > > those of you who don’t think he has a chance are severely underestimating how much hatred there is for both parties and the current system. I hear all the time from those around me some variation on “both parties are trying to stop him so he must be doing something right.” a large percentage of people i have heard come out in support of him think along those lines. Since neither party made the effort to put forth an exciting candidate there is nothing to counter his outsider appeal. It isn’t his rhetoric or stance on issues. It’s the effective sound bites and the fact that he is not a party hack. He’s sticking it to the republicans. He’s sticking it to the democrats. He’s sticking it to the press. That’s all a lot people care about. They are willing to throw away the next four years just to shake up the republican party. +100 ! . ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/147 "2016-03-17T22:18:30Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Those of you who don’t think he has a chance are severely underestimating how much hatred there is for both parties and the current system. I hear all the time from those around me some variation on “Both parties are trying to stop him so he must be doing something right.” A large percentage of people I have heard come out in support of him think along those lines. Since neither party made the effort to put forth an exciting candidate there is nothing to counter his outsider appeal. It isn’t his rhetoric or stance on issues. It’s the effective sound bites and the fact that he is not a party hack. He’s sticking it to the republicans. He’s sticking it to the Democrats. He’s sticking it to the press. That’s all a lot people care about. They are willing to throw away the next four years just to shake up the republican party. All true, perhaps, but “outsider appeal” does not in any way qualify one to run a government competently, and neither does a career in business, successful or not, and Trump’s personality is completely unsuited to the job and sets a bad example for the whole world. Shaking up the Republican Party is not quite important enough to warrant [the risks](http://www.vox.com/2016/2/10/10956978/donald-trump-terrifying) a Trump Administration represents. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/148 "2016-03-18T00:02:11Z")
Via Climate Cocks, a commenter links to a clip showing Trump in a town hall in New Hampshire answering a question from a League of Women Voters girl asking about what would Trump do about reducing pollution that causes climate change… > **[As Election Year Unfolds, Climate Concern Rises](https://thinc.blog/2016/03/17/as-election-year-unfolds-climate-concern-rises/)** > > Gallup: Americans are taking global warming more seriously than at any time in the past eight years, according to several measures in Gallup’s annual environment poll. Most emblematic is the … Trump turns around and asks “who believes in global warming?” (not what was asked, the question was what would you do, you cad…) Turns out that only one raised his hand. And facing the LWV lady he noted that only one and her did believe [Trump then dismissed her]. And yet as Gallup Reported in the Article: > **[As Election Year Unfolds, Climate Concern Rises](https://thinc.blog/2016/03/17/as-election-year-unfolds-climate-concern-rises/)** > > Gallup: Americans are taking global warming more seriously than at any time in the past eight years, according to several measures in Gallup’s annual environment poll. Most emblematic is the … > [@](#): > > Americans are taking global warming more seriously than at any time in the past eight years, according to several measures in Gallup’s annual environment poll. Most emblematic is the rise in their stated concern about the issue. Sixty-four percent of U.S. adults say they are worried a “great deal” or “fair amount” about global warming, up from 55% at this time last year and the highest reading since 2008. [64% now] To me it is not a coincidence that it is about 40% of Republicans are the ones who are supporting this yahoo. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/149 "2016-03-18T00:52:05Z")
Correction: that woman questioning Trump was from The League of Conservation not the LWV. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/150 "2016-03-18T01:32:45Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > To me it is not a coincidence that it is about 40% of Republicans are the ones who are supporting this yahoo. [Trump recently polled at 53% support of Republican primary voters](https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/03/14/trump-rises-national-support-rubio-falls-and-carso/). This marks the first time Trump’s polled over 50% since he announced his candidacy. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/151 "2016-03-18T02:06:44Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > [Trump recently polled at 53% support of Republican primary voters](https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/03/14/trump-rises-national-support-rubio-falls-and-carso/). This marks the first time Trump’s polled over 50% since he announced his candidacy. In the other thread I was referring to all voters, but even here this is not what I was referring to: > **[It’s Still Not Clear That Donald Trump Will Get A Majority Of Delegates](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/its-still-not-clear-that-donald-trump-will-get-a-majority-of-delegates/)** > > You ever feel like you don’t know exactly how to interpret an election night? That’s how I feel about the Republican side of the aisle after Tuesday. Donald Tru… > [@](#): > > Moreover, Trump performed strongly in all the states that voted Tuesday. He won 36 percent of the vote in Ohio, 39 percent in Illinois, 40 percent in North Carolina, 41 percent in Missouri and 46 percent in Florida. His average performance was 40.3 percent. That’s far above his average 34.6 percent that he had on March 1. Granted, the states that voted tonight were different than the states that voted two weeks ago, but there isn’t any sign that Trump’s support is falling. If anything, these results suggest it may be somewhat rising. As Trump will get less opponents chances are that he will get more votes, but so far the average remains from 34-40% And still\*\* that leaves almost 100% of Trump and company in that town hall as ignoramuses\*\*, it is clear that the ignorance levels about global warming are not much different in other venues. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/152 "2016-03-18T02:57:43Z")
[Middle fingers are flying around Trump Tower.](http://www.redeyechicago.com/news/redeye-flipping-off-trump-tower-chicagos-new-favorite-pastime-20160317-story.html) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/153 "2016-03-18T03:03:55Z")
[The Trump surge is leading some Pub pundits to admit that “every bad Democrats have said about the GOP is basically true.”](http://www.salon.com/2016/03/17/the_rights_shocking_admission_stunned_by_trumps_dominance_some_gop_pundits_concede_that_dems_have_been_right_about_republicans_all_along/) ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/154 "2016-03-18T11:08:07Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > Oompa-Americans, if you don’t mind. And the prophecy [has been fulfilled](http://i.imgur.com/A0LdCm4.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/155 "2016-03-18T14:01:09Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > **Truthseeker2** is an out-and-out Trump supporter. **Hank Beecher** , **octopus** , **doorhinge** and **Starving Artist** may or may not be outright supporters, but most of their Trump-related posts seem to argue against most criticisms of Trump aired on this board. They are welcome to correct the record if I’ve got this wrong. I think we can add **fools guinea** to this list of supporters. > [@Rigamarole](#): > > And the prophecy [has been fulfilled](http://i.imgur.com/A0LdCm4.jpg). Nice. Very nice. I now deeply regret the lack of avatars. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/156 "2016-03-18T14:30:49Z")
[_The Economist_ Intelligence Unit’s new global risk assessment (scale of 1 to 25):](https://gfs.eiu.com/Archive.aspx?archiveType=globalrisk) > [@](#): > > 20 China experiences a hard landing > 16 Russia’s interventions in Ukraine and Syria precede a new “cold war” > 16 Currency volatility culminates in an emerging markets corporate debt crisis > 15 Beset by external and internal pressures, the EU begins to fracture > 15 “Grexit” is followed by a euro zone break-up > \*\*12 Donald Trump wins the US presidential election \*\* > 12 The rising threat of jihadi terrorism destabilises the global economy > 8 The UK votes to leave the EU > 8 Chinese expansionism prompts a clash of arms in the South China Sea > 4 A collapse in investment in the oil sector prompts a future oil price shock They now consider a Trump presidency an equal or greater threat to the global economy than jihadi terrorism, and just slightly a lesser threat than an EU/Eurozone breakup. [Reasons given:](https://gfs.eiu.com/Article.aspx?articleType=gr&articleId=2866) > [@](#): > > Thus far Mr Trump has given very few details of his policies - and these tend to be prone to constant revision - but a few themes have become apparent. First, he has been exceptionally hostile towards free trade, including notably NAFTA, and has repeatedly labelled China as a “currency manipulator”. He has also taken an exceptionally right-wing stance on the Middle East and jiadhi terrorism, including, among other things, advocating the killing of families of terrorists and launching a land incursion into Syria to wipe out IS (and acquire its oil). In the event of a Trump victory, his hostile attitude to free trade, and alienation of Mexico and China in particular, could escalate rapidly into a trade war - and at the least scupper the Trans-Pacific Partnership between the US and 11 other American and Asian states signed in February 2016. His militaristic tendencies towards the Middle East (and ban on all Muslim travel to the US) would be a potent recruitment tool for jihadi groups, increasing their threat both within the region and beyond. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/157 "2016-03-18T16:45:19Z")
I’ve seen some ISIS members quoted as saying that although Donald Trump is an infidel dog who will perish by the sword when Allah wreaks his holy vengeance upon America and her Zionist brethren, they nonetheless enjoy seeing him shake up the traditional political establishment and admire him for speaking his mind. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/158 "2016-03-18T17:41:53Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > And the prophecy [has been fulfilled](http://i.imgur.com/A0LdCm4.jpg). > [@](#): > > We have to stop these orange people from coming into our country until we figure out what the hell is going on! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/159 "2016-03-18T18:51:43Z")
:mad: Heed the word of the Prophet Citrusseninsis as revealed in the Holy Rutacoran, infidels! God is Orange! Also Tart and Juicy! ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pit-thread/748959/160 "2016-03-18T19:37:04Z")
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