# Trump planning a bunch of pardons? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 6, 2018, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547 "2018-06-06T15:27:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547/1 "2018-06-06T15:27:03Z")
> **[Exclusive: Trump considers dozens of new pardons | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/06/politics/donald-trump-pardons/index.html)** > > The White House has assembled the paperwork to pardon dozens of people, two sources with knowledge of the developments tell CNN, signaling that President Donald Trump is poised to exert his constitutional power and intervene, in some instances, where... He says a guy named Brutus in Rome was framed. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547/2 "2018-06-06T15:47:18Z")
That Aaron Burr was totally NOT a traitor, and Alexander Hamilton had it coming! Take that, libby Broadway types! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547/3 "2018-06-06T15:59:04Z")
The Nuremberg Trials were just a partisan political attack carried out by the Democrats in concert with their Communist allies. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Mr.Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Bill)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547/4 "2018-06-06T16:07:09Z")
Can somebody tell me what Kim Kardashian has to be pardoned for? I do my best not to pay attention to that clan, so I don’t know of any actual crimes she has been convicted of. Particularly on the Federal level. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547/5 "2018-06-06T16:20:23Z")
If the question begins “Is Trump planning…” the answer is “no.” He lacks the capacity. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547/6 "2018-06-06T16:33:23Z")
Plus, when it comes to pardons he can’t really plan that. He’s gonna have to wait for individual convictions, then shoot from the hip. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547/7 "2018-06-06T16:49:33Z")
> [@Mr.Bill](#): > > Can somebody tell me what Kim Kardashian has to be pardoned for? > > I do my best not to pay attention to that clan, so I don’t know of any actual crimes she has been convicted of. Particularly on the Federal level. If I’m not being whooshed: Kardashian went to the White House to lobby for a pardon for Alice Johnson, who is serving a life sentence after being convicted on multiple counts related to drug trafficking. The argument that’s been made by Johnson and her allies is that she was a first-time offender, and that the sentence was excessive for non-violent crimes. Prosecutors have argued that her sentence is in line with federal sentencing guidelines, and that there was a large quantity of drugs involved. > **[Kim Kardashian West goes to the White House to talk pardon with Trump](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/31/kim-kardashian-west-goes-to-the-white-house-to-talk-pardon-with-trump.html)** > > Kim Kardashian West paid a visit to the White House to make a case to President Donald Trump on behalf of a woman serving a life sentence for drug offenses. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547/8 "2018-06-06T16:53:57Z")
> [@Mr.Bill](#): > > Can somebody tell me what Kim Kardashian has to be pardoned for? For existing… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Mr.Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Bill)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547/9 "2018-06-06T16:54:54Z")
So the pardon is not for her. That makes more sense. Thanks for the info. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547/10 "2018-06-06T17:19:12Z")
Trump commuted the sentence of Alice Johnson. [https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/06/politics/alice-marie-johnson-commuted-sentence/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/06/politics/alice-marie-johnson-commuted-sentence/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547/11 "2018-06-06T17:26:06Z")
That one I can endorse - 21 years of prison into a first-time non-violent drug offense, in a country with a ridiculous incarceration rate. Now let’s see him advocate for a systematic, not ad hoc, approach to letting them out. Give props to Kim Kardashian for making this happen, too. Yes, credit where due, whatever else you may think of her and our celebrity culture. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547/12 "2018-06-06T17:32:16Z")
Now I have to commend Kim Kardashian for something? This just gets worse and worse. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547/13 "2018-06-06T17:43:38Z")
there are convicted murderers who don’t do 21 years. I know of a case where one guy did 10 years and the other guy 17 years. The 3rd guy involved got life . ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547/14 "2018-06-06T17:53:41Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Now I have to commend Kim Kardashian for something? This just gets worse and worse. Trump was hoping she’d put a good word in to her cousin, Jong-Un, for him. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547/15 "2018-06-06T18:03:31Z")
the most likely reason that Trump actually commuter her sentence is that ‘Obama didn’t’ - he wants to show people that whatever Obama did/didn’t do - he will/wont do that. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547/16 "2018-06-06T18:10:13Z")
> [@simster](#): > > the most likely reason that Trump actually commuter her sentence is that ‘Obama didn’t’ - he wants to show people that whatever Obama did/didn’t do - he will/wont do that. The cynical side of me says that anyone who wants a pardon just needs to approach Trump with an attractive woman as your advocate. Tons of cash probably also helps. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547/17 "2018-06-06T18:27:22Z")
I wonder if Obama might have thought he couldn’t get away politically with pardoning black people. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547/18 "2018-06-06T18:42:25Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > I wonder if Obama might have thought he couldn’t get away politically with pardoning black people. I expect he did pardon black people. And in his 2nd term it did not really matter. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547/19 "2018-06-07T03:23:25Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > That one I can endorse - 21 years of prison into a first-time non-violent drug offense, in a country with a ridiculous incarceration rate. Now let’s see him advocate for a systematic, not ad hoc, approach to letting them out. > > Give props to Kim Kardashian for making this happen, too. Yes, credit where due, whatever else you may think of her and our celebrity culture. I notice you didn’t actually give any props to Trump, its ok man you can say he did something good, lol. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547/20 "2018-06-07T05:07:27Z")
My assumption is that this is Trump giving a favor to her husband after Kanye cozied up to him. He’s really big on that sort of thing. Obviously I’m not going to give him props for that, lol. \<–apparently just punctuation now, since it makes no sense to laugh there. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-planning-a-bunch-of-pardons/815547.md?page=2)