# Trump policies harm US tourism industry **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [April 18, 2025, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171 "2025-04-18T15:03:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2025, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171/21 "2025-05-20T01:30:38Z")
Another fairly detailed article about the effect the slump in Canadian tourism is having on US economy. California is apparently trying to differentiate itself from Washington, as if what goes on in Washington doesn’t have s as by effect on Canadians travelling to California. Sorry Gavin, as long as it’s the federal Customs and Border Security who scrutinizes entry, California is part of Trump’s US. No getting away from it. > **[US Border Woes Grow as Millions in Tourism Revenue Lost from Collapsing...](https://www.travelandtourworld.com/news/article/us-border-woes-grow-as-millions-in-tourism-revenue-lost-from-collapsing-canadian-flights-road-trips-and-bookings-amid-tariff-fallout/)** > > The US is grappling with a deepening tourism crisis as tensions with Canada—fueled by new tariffs, political rhetoric, and heightened border scrutiny—have triggered a dramatic collapse in Canadian travel. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171/22 "2025-05-28T01:40:17Z")
Another report: > **[Visitors stay away: 61% decrease](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/5/27/2324627/-Visitors-stay-away-61-decrease?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web)** > > Millwall FC, London: Their chant is “No one likes us, we don’t care.” And that is what appears to be happening to the US travel and hospitality industry. First, land crossings. The chart (right) shows land crossings for passenger vehicles and... ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171/23 "2025-05-28T02:11:36Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Another fairly detailed article about the effect the slump in Canadian tourism is having on US economy. Yeah. Although I’m probably fine to visit the US (native-born Canadian, lily-white, Christian by baptism), I’ve decided to stay home and see Canada instead. Sorry, USA. I’ll be happy to return someday. Just not now. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171/24 "2025-05-30T19:41:32Z")
It looks like some businesses in the US are trying to win back their Canadian guests with discounts and offers, but with varying levels of success. [https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/u-s-canadian-tourism-discounts-1.7546881](https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/u-s-canadian-tourism-discounts-1.7546881) ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171/25 "2025-07-10T10:56:09Z")
Update on the drop in spending by BC residents cross-border: > **[B.C. residents spending less in the U.S. by an ‘astonishing’ amount: report ...](https://globalnews.ca/news/11278215/bc-residents-spending-less-us-astonishing-amount-report/)** > > In-person spending in Washington state declined 47 per cent compared to the same period in 2024, according to the report released by Vancity on Monday. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171/26 "2025-07-10T11:41:13Z")
And another report indicates that the number of Canadians researching house purchases in the US is also down. > **[Canadian searches for U.S. real estate shows steep decline: report](https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-u-s-real-estate-decline-report)** > > If Canadian demand for U.S. real estate keeps falling, it may mean "further weakness" for U.S., says RedFin's Chen Zhao. ---
**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171/27 "2025-07-10T17:18:41Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > You have your team, you root for your team, you denigrate the other team, and at the end of the day it doesn’t really matter. It’s serious, but it’s also just a bit of fun. > [@](#): > > Similarly, US politics has been so stable at the core for so long, with so little wiggle room on the highest-visibility issues (Social Security, defense spending, foreign policy, health care reform, etc), that the majority of voters simply don’t see any change when Congress and the White House transition from party to party. I think the average American takes for granted the fact that our government can take huge risks and wild swings and our economy is just too big for investors to pull up stakes en masse, and if there are any consequences to bad policies, they hit years later. The situation the UK had where Liz Truss proposed a budget that massively increased the deficit, and a day later the markets crashed and there was widespread investor panic don’t happen in the US, and it would take extreme levels of irresponsibility to make that happen. When we went from a budget surplus of 2.3% of GDP in 2000 to a deficit of 3.3% in 2003 it wasn’t really noticed. People noticed the middle class tax cut and the massive increase in defense investment, but the dollar was fine and investors were utterly unphased. We also take it for granted that some random spiteful foreign leader couldn’t just decide to economically destroy us. It’s kind of mindboggling that people don’t universally understand why a country like Canada won’t just move on from threats like this. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171/28 "2025-07-10T17:46:38Z")
Anecdata: When I was 20 or so I visited the U.S. , a friend whose father worked in an airline invited me to go with them, since they traveled cheap and knew the destination (Florida). I had never had much interest in visiting the U.S. (all my ideal travel locations are in Europe since I’m a fan of classical antiquity) but I said, what the hell, and accepted. It was fun and I bought a LOT of books in a Barnes and Noble, books being then about 90% cheaper there. If I got the same invitation now there’s absolutely no way in hell I would accept, if not for moral reasons for self preservation ones, the risk of being detained and ending up in some hellhole in El Salvador is frankly too high. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171/29 "2025-07-10T18:09:58Z")
Not just tourism. There’s a conference I attend yearly in late fall that has a large number of Canadian and European attendees, as well as state and federal employees. Registrations are way down. I have heard one of the regulars from Canada say that she will not be attending as she doesn’t want to spend money in the US. In addition, federal employees have had their travel and training budgets slashed so anyone who wants to go has to attend on their own dime. A few probably will but most won’t. The hotels, restaurants and other venues that could have expected to profit from this event will see their incomes drop; and so it goes. I’m sure we’re not the only conference seeing this. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171/30 "2025-07-10T18:23:34Z")
Have heard reports of many conferences, research and otherwise, being shifted to Canada. Otherwise many foreign contributors, researchers, speakers etc, just won’t attend. That’s quite sad. America used to be kinda great, the best and the brightest lights in sciences and tech gravitated to it naturally. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171/31 "2025-07-10T18:40:50Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > That’s quite sad. On the other hand, while Canada is experiencing a lot of the consequences, it’s being mitigated somewhat by these conferences and the brain gain of Americans (and Canadians in America) relocating to Canada. **elbows** up! (sorry, couldn’t resist) ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171/32 "2025-07-10T18:44:30Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Have heard reports of many conferences, research and otherwise, being shifted to Canada. Otherwise many foreign contributors, researchers, speakers etc, just won’t attend. Yep. A couple of my friends have posted about a humanist conference that was supposed to be in DC in August of next year being moved to Ottawa insead. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171/33 "2025-07-26T15:03:12Z")
🎶 _On the cover of the New York mag_ 🎶 _New York_ magazine sends reporter and his family to live in Canada for a month to try to get a sense for the state of US—Canada relations. Answer: not good. Cover show an angry beaver with a chokehold on a bald eagle. Headline: “You Have No Idea How Furious the Canadians Are” > **[An American sent to Canada was shocked by how furious Canadians are at the U.S.](https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/an-american-sent-to-canada-was-shocked-by-how-furious-canadians-are-at-the-u-s)** > > Simon van Zuylen-Wood arrived to a wall of anti-American sentiment, buy-Canadian mantras and no U.S. booze on liquor store shelves. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171/34 "2025-07-26T15:12:43Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > _New York_ magazine sends reporter and his family to live in Canada for a month to try to get a sense for the state of US—Canada relations. " **the Canadian LCBO**. I tried to become one.” Well, messed up the first step, didn’t he? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171/35 "2025-07-26T15:22:22Z")
Internal tourism is down too. Crazy weather sparked by global warming, fuel prices, and state to state grievances (liberals are staying away from tourist sites in Texas). Also, I read recently that tourism to The Grand Canyon was down before the fire-- combination of heat and bad feelings toward Arizona-- and even a few people worried about water access. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171/36 "2025-12-12T04:42:32Z")
New rules coming for visitors to the US. > [@](#): > > Tourists to the United States would have to reveal their social media activity from the last five years, under new [Trump administration](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/trump-administration)plans. > > The mandatory new disclosures would apply to the 42 countries whose nationals are currently permitted to enter the US without a visa, including longtime US allies Britain, France, Australia, Germany and Japan. > > In a notice [published](https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/12/10/2025-22461/agency-information-collection-activities-revision-arrival-and-departure-record-form-i-94-and) on Tuesday, the US Customs and Border Protection agency (CBP) said it would also require any telephone numbers used by visitors over the same period, and any email addresses used in the last decade, as well as face, fingerprint, DNA and iris biometrics. It would also ask for the names, addresses, birthdates and birthplaces of family members, including children. It’s apparently to implement one of Trump’s executive orders; > In it, the US president called for restrictions to ensure visitors to the US “do not bear hostile attitudes toward its citizens, culture, government, institutions, or founding principles”. Wouldn’t want visitors to the US to freely express their personal opinions. That must go contrary to the founding principles. > **[Tourists to US would have to reveal five years of social media activity under...](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/10/tourists-social-media-trump)** > > Plan would apply to countries not currently required to get visas to the US, including Britain and France ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171/37 "2025-12-12T04:45:02Z")
Apparently tourism from Australia is already down year-over-year. This measure will likely increase this trend, according to a Guardian article: > **[‘The whole thing disgusts me’: Australians ditch US travel as new rules...](https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/dec/11/australia-us-tourism-new-visa-rules-social-media-history)** > > Visitors will have to reveal at the border all social media activity over the past five years Just in time for the World Cup! ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171/38 "2025-12-12T05:38:59Z")
> [@](#): > > In it, the US president called for restrictions to ensure visitors to the US “do not bear hostile attitudes toward its citizens, culture, government, institutions, or founding principles”. Pot meet kettle. 'Cause I’m of the now possibly visa disqualifying opinion that the 45/47 administration itself is demonstrably hostile to US _“citizens, culture, government, institutions, or founding principles.”_ And there almost certainly goes pear-shaped my aspirations for a return trip to the US. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171/39 "2025-12-12T05:53:07Z")
I need to see how this is going to screw up The World Science Fiction Convention in Anaheim next year. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171/40 "2025-12-12T08:17:34Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Tourists to the United States would have to reveal their social media activity from the last five years, I do not plan to visit the USA, but good luck, USA if you think that you can glean anything from my only active account… which I used to oversee because my dog could not type. There is only so much “omygod this is my favorite thing” caption on a dog photograph gallery that any sane border official can stand. More than five years ago, however, I was running multiple accounts under fake names because I worked at an online casino who ran “free” Facebook slot games, which ran with a hard upsell pitch to the real paid gambling site. Good luck to the administration finding who that was, too. My colleagues and I were faking IDs in photoshop and all sorts of nonsense so we could each have several accounts in order to test “share” features. I don’t even remember the logins anymore. Ha, rereading that, I probably doxed myself. Luckily we don’t have a large FBI contingent stationed at the US embassy (which is in my home town) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-policies-harm-us-tourism-industry/1017171.md?page=3)